• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:34
CET 10:34
KST 18:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT20Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2282 users

Robin

Blogs > docvoc
Post a Reply
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
August 13 2014 16:44 GMT
#1
It's been a little bit TL.

      I don't want to make a blog solely about Robin Williams, he was an incredible man, and I could eulogize him for several pages just given the movies and the profundity of some of his scenes, but that is not what this blog is for.

      A little while back several of my friends parents died, 3 to be exact. None of us are 20, and so those deaths came as shocks. 66% of them were suicides. These were loving parents, they weren't just out there and gone away. They were active in their childrens' lives, and both of which had lovely daughters who are incredible people that I'm glad I've gotten to meet and study in class with. And yet, despite having what most would consider, "it all," they both committed suicide. I'm not saying they were faultless or had perfectly unstressed lives, but they both had a loving wife, children, enough money to send their children to college and retire, along with successful careers; they had what many would consider exactly what the doctor ordered.

      I don't like the fact that Robin Williams died. I don't think any did. His passing was not only tragic, but unforeseen despite having fought severe depression throughout his life, and that very detail is what bothers me so much. I've had depression, it comes back and its no fun, but what I have/had is nothing compared to what I see so many people deal with on a day to day basis. Thoughts of sadness, turned thoughts of self-harm, turned thoughts of suicide, turned into tragedy.

      What I don't want is for what I'm seeing now, and actually liking, people talking about depression in a different manner, like it has now it home, to turn into a monster. I don't want people to focus on the fact that Williams killed himself. That is the antithesis to where this conversation should be going. I don't want the shock and awe of a household name going's to be the topic. I'm seeing this in more and more places too. We need to be talking about mental illness, we need to be more tuned into the psychological community rather than the stereotypical responses I see from people regarding illness. This isn't just about suicide. This isn't at all about suicide actually. This is about manic depression, the illness that guided Williams to tragedy.

      What I don't want to see anymore of is people arguing about whether or not suicide is justified. We don't deserve a conversation of whether or not Seneca was right to say that suicide is justified when one's life has reached its finality - no we deserve much, much more. I'm sad that I'm not seeing it as much as I should be too. There are some syndicated websites making arguments, small scale people writing small scale articles, none with much "fuerza" behind them. All of them being shared, reshared, liked, and all without so much as a breakdown of how horribly flawed the points made in the are. What I want to see is a real delving of society into this problem.

      But it saddens me that, not just days after this tragic passing of a man who touched so many lives, people have begun to get back on the train of arguing about other issues. Issues that don't touch most lives, stories of intangible topics that we can't control in ISIS or arguments pro or con concerning the recent riots. All of this in the face of a mental illness that touches all of our lives, because we all know someone with depression or another mental illness that I find, under most cases falls lowest on the rung of problems others consider to plague one's life and is simultaneously highest on one's own ladder of problems.

+ Show Spoiler [the internet] +


***
User was warned for too many mimes.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 13 2014 17:16 GMT
#2
Everyone's perception of mental illness is different, and everyone's experience with it is even more so. Rather than talk about how he died or what his illness was, I think the focus should celebrate his life and educate others on how to help themselves if they need it. Williams had been struggling for years, yet it seemed that everyone was surprised about it. A healthy discussion is beneficial, but individual sharing of experience only adds baggage to the problem.

I like your points, a lot actually. I suffered for years from depression after a ton of family issues. But what does that matter on the grand scheme of things? I think everyone should step backward from suicide and stop considering whether it is right or wrong and try to talk about how to help those who are having these thoughts and feelings. Sometimes, suicide is beneficial to those who are suffering from extreme mental disorders and issues (as grizzly as that sounds) but more in-depth observation of psychology and mental health can help in the long run.

People only scratch the surface of these problems and move on to something more glamorous or exciting, even if they have no control over it. I'm sure most people have been effected more by issues of mental health than those of war and riots. And mental health and understanding of society is what causes these problems in the first place. We just need to gain a deeper knowledge.

RIP Robin, my cousin Taylor, my friend Paul, and everyone who has committed or been affected by suicide. I wish I could have helped in any way to improve your life, but maybe there was no way.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2502 Posts
August 14 2014 11:19 GMT
#3
Sorry to hear about your friends loss;

In my experience when i don' t want something to have attention, it suffices to not talk about it, either in a good or bad way. Already talking about is drawing attention to it. That being said, i don' t agree with people battling over the internet about this. That is my own opinion, that simply someone who has passed away deserves a moment, a minute, or a week of silence, and then after we should talk about it.
R.I.P. yall who are not here anymore.
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
Group A
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
PiGStarcraft543
IndyStarCraft 108
Rex76
TKL 37
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft543
SortOf 157
NeuroSwarm 149
ProTech118
IndyStarCraft 108
Rex 76
TKL 37
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 1503
Sea 1423
Hyuk 459
Mini 159
Mong 140
EffOrt 120
Rush 109
ZerO 74
ggaemo 64
Hm[arnc] 63
[ Show more ]
sSak 61
ToSsGirL 31
NotJumperer 25
NaDa 20
Bale 19
sorry 18
scan(afreeca) 18
910 16
Yoon 15
ZergMaN 12
JulyZerg 9
Terrorterran 9
Britney 3
Dota 2
XaKoH 590
canceldota41
League of Legends
JimRising 458
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1090
shoxiejesuss1014
olofmeister895
zeus681
m0e_tv435
allub234
edward103
kRYSTAL_51
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King126
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor131
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi727
ceh9544
Trikslyr31
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick569
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• LUISG 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1235
• Jankos1056
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
27m
KCM Race Survival
27m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2h 27m
OSC
2h 27m
Replay Cast
14h 27m
PiG Sty Festival
23h 27m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
1d
Epic.LAN
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 23h
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.