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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 19:36:19
July 25 2014 19:35 GMT
#21
The second logo is probably the best for your logo even if it is a bit generic. I don't think the third one can work at all. The second logo probably also needs the color redone. I think something based more around black/less with the blue would be more visually appealing.

Also, best of luck!
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 19:47:43
July 25 2014 19:39 GMT
#22
Nice update.

I think all 3 of the logos aren't good enough yet, tbh. The second one is the only one that's easily scalable and remains recognizable, you def want more of a vector style than anything with too many textures/images.

The problem with the 2nd one is that while it serves it's function, it's not so "memorable". It won't jump out as much in a line of boardgame designer logos since the pawn shape in itself is so standard.

What about this: You let the pawn be slightly tilted to the side as if its tipping over, don't overdo the texturing, make it look a bit water/glasslike, but still have the water freezing over the edge going vertically down opposed to the diagonal pawn. The lack of symmetry would remove some of the visual clarity, but would make it stand out more. Just my 2 cents.

I like all the other art though.

Edit: Almost forgot. Congrats on getting married.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-25 19:50:15
July 25 2014 19:47 GMT
#23
I really like the banner art and quite like the name Frozen Pawn as well. I also voted on concept art #1 initially, though I thought about it again and I'm liking #2 more now. Simple design that doesn't make it look overly complex and difficult to learn at a glance. After reading the above couple posts I would agree that it could still use some re-working and touching up. But I would still prefer it over the other two.

If there was one thing I would criticize it would be that the "A competitive drinking game of epic proportions" subheader in the banner sounds really cliche and cheesy to me. The term 'epic' is just so overused everywhere (often combo'd with 'proportions' as well) in terms of movies/frequent conversation if you have nerdy friends/games and whenever I read it anywhere I'm just like "oh really, you don't say?..." I definitely like the designation as a competitive drinking game because that's definitely an eye catcher, but yeah. I don't know what would be better, but just my 2 cents.

gl with your wife's visa!
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
July 25 2014 22:22 GMT
#24
On July 26 2014 03:47 musai wrote:
Hmm, I thought it was another 200 $ (400 total) to have a copy name instead of a number, should have incorporated with a name instead.

I did incorporate with a name. It's still $200 for federal registration - you just have to run a NUANS name search first.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
July 25 2014 22:45 GMT
#25
On July 26 2014 03:59 TheEmulator wrote:
Game looks interesting

Also, where is your wife from?

Korea!
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
July 25 2014 23:47 GMT
#26
Wow, the concept art looks awesome.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 26 2014 00:17 GMT
#27
Congrats on everything! The game is looking really good, thanks for the updates.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
July 26 2014 15:01 GMT
#28
Very cool Chill. The art looks really amazing, and I like the name Frozen Pawn. I can't wait to see where this goes and I hope it works out well for ya
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
July 27 2014 01:16 GMT
#29
I have to admit I thought this blog was going to be about a pawn shop.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 27 2014 10:22 GMT
#30
I like the name. It's not too fanciful, while also being recognisable.

As for the logos I think I like the 3rd most. Definitely not the 1st as it seems too cluttered, it removes a lot from the "pawn" idea and is really distracting. The "forms" (I have no idea what they're called) surrounding the pawn make the logo more generic.
I like the 3rd logo's idea of having icy pikes hanging from the edges, to give the idea of "frozen", and the outline works better to give the logo a recognisable shape than the color scheme of the 2nd one. On the other hand, it's true that it may be more easily "lost" if you put it amongst other stuff, especially as a logo. Maybe a background, more discreet than on the 2nd one so that the pawn itself remains the focal point, behind it to give it a bigger "shape" (like the rectangle) would help?

So you're planning on around 2015 for production... I guess I could just look at the list of your blogs and the dates for this, but for perspective, how long have you been working on this project? Must have been almost 2 years or something already?
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
July 27 2014 22:35 GMT
#31
On July 27 2014 19:22 Alaric wrote:
I like the name. It's not too fanciful, while also being recognisable.

As for the logos I think I like the 3rd most. Definitely not the 1st as it seems too cluttered, it removes a lot from the "pawn" idea and is really distracting. The "forms" (I have no idea what they're called) surrounding the pawn make the logo more generic.
I like the 3rd logo's idea of having icy pikes hanging from the edges, to give the idea of "frozen", and the outline works better to give the logo a recognisable shape than the color scheme of the 2nd one. On the other hand, it's true that it may be more easily "lost" if you put it amongst other stuff, especially as a logo. Maybe a background, more discreet than on the 2nd one so that the pawn itself remains the focal point, behind it to give it a bigger "shape" (like the rectangle) would help?

So you're planning on around 2015 for production... I guess I could just look at the list of your blogs and the dates for this, but for perspective, how long have you been working on this project? Must have been almost 2 years or something already?

Yep, we started in October 2012, nearly 2 years ago. It's been off and on since then but fairly steady for the last couple months. We have a working alpha version that is completely functional right now.
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 10:30:50
July 28 2014 10:29 GMT
#32
Frozen pawn is a great name, nice work. Sadly I really don't like any of the logo's. One and three are unworkable in my opinion since it's not about what looks best as a piece of artwork but what constitutes a good logo. It should be clean which these are not in my opinion. The 2nd option works with silhouette which I approve the most of but still too convoluted with other things going on around it. Keep it clean keep it simple I'd say and have the logo be a seperate design from the company name and slogan so you can use it as is and be recognisable on a non text basis.

Personally I settled on this (yeah yeah, I went with the name but I just really like how it sounds and rolls of the tongue with the double L going on, thought about it for several months but kept coming back to it ). These are old concept versions as you can see in the typo in the concept but it's the concept that counts:

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As for your bank/account story. I had the exact same thing. Been with a bank my whole life but opening a business account with a nightmare so I went to the one around the corner after two weeks of bullshit and got it done in 30 min like you said. Kinda sucks but ah well.

Coag still being a boss on art <3.

And I dunno if you checked your last blog after your last post but you had a question in it and I'll just quote my answer below.

On May 28 2014 18:29 Nyovne wrote:
Looks amazing, if you need some more alpha testing I've got a bunch of friends who are dying to try this over a couple of saturday nights. Absolutely splendid job Chill and that artwork is the shit from Coag, really well done. Got me hyped! Really glad to see this is still going since it's been a fun project from the start.

With regards to your legal question, I'd simply add on a box the age it's ment to be played from and slap on a disclaimer (on the box, not inside of it). You can always instruct retailers/yourself to not sell to people under the legal drinking age. Plus inside of the box you might add a folder which explain the hazards of drinking/instructs in responsible drinking. This way you'd a) make it very clear what the intended audience is, b) disclaim possible damages (be careful if you ship to other countries that this might not be possible to disclaim/different legal drinking ages), c) age restrictions on selling/retailing is prudent and shows consideration and dilligence on your part, d) adding a folder might be super over the top but it's a great final step to show that you are aware of the dangers and have warned the users by any reasonable means at your disposal.

Offcourse I'd add another folder on how to mix some awesome special mana drinks (potions/elixers) for this game! :D With a conversion chart offcourse, say 4 drinks (beer ounces wise) can be replaced by one drink: demonblood elixer (create some crazy mix drink). Fun stuff to add some spice to the "drinks" aspect of the game!


edit: I really like the name the more I see it. Original, clean and easily recognisable. Now you need that in your logo!
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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 21:26:08
July 28 2014 21:24 GMT
#33
Man, that looks great Blake. Congrats on the marriage! As if you don't have enough to do, you should make a version for more serious drinking ;] Totally down for testing it if you need more people and I agree wholeheartedly with what Kris said. Looking forward to getting it on Kickstarter.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
July 28 2014 23:40 GMT
#34
Thanks Nyovne for the advice - really really appreciated.

Once we get the website up it will ask for people to sign up to the mailing list as well as for signups for beta testing. I'll obviously post here once it's up
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
July 29 2014 08:04 GMT
#35
No prob, I love this shit you've got going on so want to see it succeed! And we need to play this sometime Scott, rawrrrrr. <3
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 01:51:30
July 30 2014 01:50 GMT
#36
If you end up using #1 I recommend making it smaller. Cut away some of the excess on the outside and bring the ribbon thing that Frozen Pawn is written on into the middle of the actual picture so it is curving inside the shield shape.

Honestly, if you are using this for a logo like one that will go on cards, webpages, etc. just going for #3 seems best since it needs to be relatively small without messing up its graphics.

Instead maybe use #1 for something else like something people click on in emails to go to your site since that being attractive should make people more enticed to see what its about.

Good luck Chill!
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 31 2014 21:24 GMT
#37
chill likes #3
I like #1
everyone else likes #2

sounds about right.

obligatory pic
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
July 31 2014 21:33 GMT
#38
That dragon card should have some sort of special rule:

"May enter the playing field at any time but unable to actually do anything until the 7th expansion is released."

Also, name it Drogon.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 31 2014 22:04 GMT
#39
how are the durability of the cards?

I ask this because when drinking because "party foul"
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 22:15:09
July 31 2014 22:05 GMT
#40
this one looks more like a drogon imo.
[image loading]

On August 01 2014 07:04 StorrZerg wrote:
how are the durability of the cards?

I ask this because when drinking because "party foul"


mine are holding out surprisingly well although I haven't shared a drink with any yet.
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