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On July 19 2014 19:50 HaRuHi wrote:
Edit: A lot Linux variants have Live CD's, which allow you to test the OS if you have a DVD drive without installing the system, they are a lot slower than the installed versions, but are great to see if you like the software that comes with the OS.
You can also create a Live Image on a USB Drive. A 4GB USB Drive is already big enough to create one on the USB drive.
I'm also currently switching to Linux MINT on my main computer, though I have a Windows 7 partition if I run into emulators/games that don't run on Linux. But I'm not playing a lot anymore, so I'll mainly use the Linux MINT OS.
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Can you cheese with wine?
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So I went and got ubuntu to try that
I had an issue where my touchpad wasn't recognized and I would have to disable a duplicate mouse which cause my cursor to jump a little to the left every 3 seconds 
Got wine and POL and tried for about 3 hours to get sc2 to work but it just kept crashing and saying I was low on video memory.
I couldn't find any way to see video card drivers or anything but when I use apt-get to install latest nvidia drivers it said all up to date. When I get my desktop I may go linux for my laptop and windows on my desktop but otherwise will just stick with windows for now
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If your notebook is fairly new, you're probably running an optimus machine:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
It's basically a technology where your notebook has two graphics cards and your computer switches from a ligher to more intensive card depending on the task. Ubuntu for some reason I don't get does not come with bumblebee, the driver to enable this, by default, this is how you do it.
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lol yeah I had to turn off Optimus on multiple new machines because my video stuff wouldn't work
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Yeah, you can also turn it off I guess and always use your advanced graphics card. Makes a hell of a noise though on this one. It was fairly easy to get bumblebee to work for me to just make it switch.
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Normally i would play games on windows, do everything else at linux but i had to use only linux for 9 months at school and my part time job. In that period, i played hearthstone and baldurs gate 1-2ee with wine, dwarf fortress and dcss(dungeon crawl stone soup) by building from source.
Wine is good for old games but it was quite buggy for me. My desktop manager kept died everytime i quit a game and alt-tabbing broke the game most of the gime.
If steam pushes linux gaming, it might get better. But currently it is not usable for most people imo.
PS: I had the same problem with my video cards. I have an hd6000 something and an intel graphics 4000. I learnt a lot about linux thanks to problems they caused.
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yup I also tried to install bumblebee but it didn't seem to do anything
I also I have issues because all my game data is installed to partition which linux can see but for some reason wine cannot
Even POL is not very user friendly for dual booters who have games already installed
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Each prefix of wine creates its own virtual partition. The default one is ~/.wine/drive_c/, as far as wine is concerned, drive_c is just a C:\ drive on windows and nothing exists deeper down than that.
What you can however easily do is create a symlink inside drive_c to your windows partition. Wine automatically does this symlinking drive_c/user/<name>/Documents to /home/<name>/Documents for instance.
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On July 19 2014 17:38 SiskosGoatee wrote:
Saying you run Arch and Gentoo is massive e-penis size though.
Both have great documentation; if you can follow directions (and, in Gentoo's case, have the patience to set cflags and compile most everything), you can use them.
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Certainly you can use them. They're just not "user friendly" and I wouldn't recommend them to the average home user who simply lacks the technical savy.
I do virtually everything with the terminal, hence my wallpaper features 2 lines of terminal which can be expanded at the press of a hotkey. But I still don't like arch because the packages are very unstable and often break. I'm not that big un just updating for the sake of updating. I only update when I want a feature that I specifically know is in the update. The entire essence of Arch is to always get the latest of the latest.
I can definitely like the minimalism of the OS though. I actually had to go in the reverse route and tear everything I need out of it. I'd rather go into the route of just installing what I need.
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I've used arch on my laptop (full time) and desktop (dual boot) for about a year and a half now, and I'm not sure what breakages you're talking about.
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Linux is a pain. Give me Windows any day.
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I dunno, I like being able to install packages/software with apt-get rather than googling all over for them
also, coding in Windows is too hard
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Yeah, installing software on windows is a pain in the proverbial butt:
The windows way:
- Google the name of the application.
- Go to the site
- Go to the download page
- Download the right one for your architecture and OS
- Right click, save as
- Open your file browser
- navigate to your downloads folder
- Click the executable
- Run it as administrator, hoping it doesn't bomb your system
- Agree to a licence you never bothered to read
- Select the folder you want to install it in
- Close all active applications, the installer says so
- If you're in bad luck, reboot after install
The linux way:
- apt-get install <application name>
- sit back and watch some videos of Avilo getting thoroughly beaten by Minigun in offrace
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yeah im definately liking the apt-get function
though it is tricky at first because you have to know exactly what you want
for example I needed to type this exactly to get graphics drivers working
$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-settings nvidia-prime
Took me a lot of searching to figure that I needed the prime part
So now I only have 2 issues - I got sc2 working though via POL it doesn't work I just go to the starcraft 2 exe and right click run with wine. It will load the battle.net app and then crash but there is enough time for my to click launch and it gets into the game and works.
Don't suppose you have ideas on this?
The last problem is my touchpad isn' detected by ubuntu and has a generic wheel mouse device instead maybe? but that makes the cursor jump left a bit every 3 seconds so I have to disable that device on startup every time.
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The fun part starts when the stuff you want isn't in the repository, or just the wrong version, and nobody cares to provide a linux binary, and the source won't just compile when asked nicely.
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On July 20 2014 20:49 spinesheath wrote:
The fun part starts when the stuff you want isn't in the repository, or just the wrong version, and nobody cares to provide a linux binary, and the source won't just compile when asked nicely. You mean the worst case scenario is when you essentially end up in the situation you are always in on windows?
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On July 20 2014 22:25 SiskosGoatee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 20:49 spinesheath wrote:
The fun part starts when the stuff you want isn't in the repository, or just the wrong version, and nobody cares to provide a linux binary, and the source won't just compile when asked nicely. You mean the worst case scenario is when you essentially end up in the situation you are always in on windows?
I don't think I've ever compiled anything from source because a Windows binary wasn't available.
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What are you talking about, they're not available all the time. Good luck trying to get a windows binary for say opam. The only reason you can even some-what hack it to work on windows is because it's open source. No documentation provided for that though that I know so you're on your own.
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