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Rant: Why It Is Hard to be a Protoss Fan

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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 07:23:42
July 07 2014 07:21 GMT
#1
When I used to play Brood War as a kid, I fell in love with Protoss. It had very manly soldiers like Zealots and very cute (imo) units such as the Reaver and Dragoon. Also, out of all races, Protoss had the most compelling story with its eon-lasting politics and tragic downfall to the Zerg. Even though my BW friends told me to play Zerg to focus more on my macro, Protoss was always the special race in my heart.

When I started to follow SC2: Wings of Liberty, I was a sad Protoss fan, because Terran, back then, were definitely the most favored race. Against Protoss, their concussive shields, 70 dmg siege tanks, and easy nexus snipes were extremely frustrating to watch. Afterwards, there are some nerfs to the Terran and several minor buffs to the Protoss. However, when the Queen/Overlord/Infestor patch came in, Zerg definitely had the upper hand and forced Protoss to do more all-ins or pray for a lucky vortex.

In addition to the fact that Protoss had the least amount of GSL tournament wins in Wing of Liberty, seeing how many Protoss players use all-ins really hurts my heart. How can a honorable race rely on deceit and annoying tactics? Yes, there were some defensive macro players, but they were extremely rare at the time!

Now, Protoss has reigned supreme. Should I a Protoss fan be happy with that? But how can I be happy when I see how Protoss is extremely versatile with strong early game builds, strong defensive mechanics to help it survive mid-game, and a nearly unstoppable late game while other races do not enjoy the same benefits? Sure, it's nothing compared to the Brood Lord/Infestor times with boring turtle-style play or Terran supremacy with awful map pools. Regardless, it's hard seeing that match-ups with PvZ and PvT. PvZ, although hosting a variety of tactics, still shows how Zerg does not have a strong late game answer to the Protoss and can still fall to a Protoss all-in. PvT is similar to PvZ in terms of the match-up dynamic with Protoss having an arsenal of all-ins and powerful late-game while Terran has no viable all-ins or a strong late game composition, but the worse parts are that PvT compositions from WoL has not changed from PvT in HotS (with the exception of a Mothership Core) and Terran has to play much more reactive, leaving them with very little build order options.

Although it's easy to blame on Blizzard, it's not the right thing to do. I know how hard DK is trying to fix the imbalance and has given a lot of buffs to Terran, but it hasn't worked out! Also, unlike WoL, DK has shown a great amount of discretion and more openness towards community feedback. Regardless of the careful efforts, it's still burdensome that Protosses are winning nearly every tournament, insinuating that Protoss has an unfair advantage. It seems that fixes to these perceived imbalances are not coming fast enough.

Although I am pretty restive about Protoss's supremacy, suggestions to severely nerf Protoss are just as annoying because I feel that those people making those points have forgotten how a stale game can become with a series of nerfs. Instead, people should be finding ways to give other races more choices like giving them more drop options (overlord speed will automatically unlock overlord drop) or better late game compositions.

I want Protoss to win, but I also want other races to be just as versatile with a choice of all-ins and competitive late game compositions. After all, competitive victory can be fully cherished, if we feel that war was won without any inherent disadvantage to our foes.

I pray to Tassadar and Adun for the day when Protoss used to stand and fight for honor!

Fun Fact: Even I introduced my younger brother to Starcraft 2 in MLG Anaheim, and he mentioned how annoyed he was with Protoss's Force Fields and Storms. LOL

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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 11:31:27
July 07 2014 11:31 GMT
#2
Every night, I pray to Tassadar. My dad sees me and calls me a faggot. I call him a cunt. I know he's just jealous of my devotion to Tassadar.

Tassadar whispers into my ear "En taro adun"

He looks my dad right in the eyes and says "It's all overlord now."
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
July 07 2014 12:30 GMT
#3
anybody remembers this patch in wol :D

Patch 9 (version 0.11.0.15097)
Neural Parasite range increased from 7 to 9.
Fungal Growth projectile removed; Units in the target area are now instantly hit.

But I do agree with the op, protoss plays out so wierd, yesterday at Epicon it was ignite vs uThermal and one game it was so exicting the whole crowd stood up, the other game dts came in the game ended within 7 minutes....

The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
July 07 2014 14:13 GMT
#4
On July 07 2014 21:30 sabas123 wrote:
anybody remembers this patch in wol :D

Patch 9 (version 0.11.0.15097)
Neural Parasite range increased from 7 to 9.
Fungal Growth projectile removed; Units in the target area are now instantly hit.

But I do agree with the op, protoss plays out so wierd, yesterday at Epicon it was ignite vs uThermal and one game it was so exicting the whole crowd stood up, the other game dts came in the game ended within 7 minutes....


I do remember that patch quite well... I was Zerg at the time.

I remember playing a ZvZ on the desert like map that had this ramp high ground thing at the fourths. It was Roach Infestor vs Roach Infestor and he hid his on that high ground and neuraled all of my Infestors and proceeded to kill me with my own fungals and my Roaches killing my own Infestors :|.

On topic now I've recently been watching some Sc2 and like every game (tvp) the casters say "Now the Terran adds x rax here and has to build x here" every game always the same. When talking about the Protoss it was "Now the Protoss can add a Stargate, or Templars, or another Robo, or try to take a third. Its crazy the amount of options available compared to the others options.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
July 07 2014 14:31 GMT
#5
Sometimes I forget the early days when Protoss struggled. Those days are gone, but I understand your frustration.

On July 07 2014 23:13 -Dustin- wrote:
When talking about the Protoss it was "Now the Protoss can add a Stargate, or Templars, or another Robo, or try to take a third. Its crazy the amount of options available compared to the others options.


That's a really good point.
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
July 07 2014 17:11 GMT
#6
On July 07 2014 20:31 ninazerg wrote:
Every night, I pray to Tassadar. My dad sees me and calls me a faggot. I call him a cunt. I know he's just jealous of my devotion to Tassadar.

Tassadar whispers into my ear "En taro adun"

He looks my dad right in the eyes and says "It's all overlord now."


Tassadar is love.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
July 07 2014 21:16 GMT
#7
On July 07 2014 20:31 ninazerg wrote:
Every night, I pray to Tassadar. My dad sees me and calls me a faggot. I call him a cunt. I know he's just jealous of my devotion to Tassadar.

Tassadar whispers into my ear "En taro adun"

He looks my dad right in the eyes and says "It's all overlord now."


Can you explain ''It's all overlord now'' line please :D
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
July 07 2014 21:54 GMT
#8
" Even though my BW friends told me to play Zerg "

They're not your friends if they tell you to switch to zerg.
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
July 07 2014 23:52 GMT
#9
Yeah, it's been funny to see how Terran and Protoss have basically switched places from BW to SC2.

Old Protoss - "My life for Aiur! We will eat tank shells as infantry even though we have crazy cool tech!"

New Terran - "We will stand with honor as we eat laser beams and acid for breakfast! Because tanks suck now!"

If I played BW now, I would probably play Protoss, just cause I've gotten so used to the mechanics of handling a larger army of smaller infantry. Besides, I agree, Protoss was just badass in BW.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
July 08 2014 00:11 GMT
#10
On July 08 2014 06:16 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 20:31 ninazerg wrote:
Every night, I pray to Tassadar. My dad sees me and calls me a faggot. I call him a cunt. I know he's just jealous of my devotion to Tassadar.

Tassadar whispers into my ear "En taro adun"

He looks my dad right in the eyes and says "It's all overlord now."


Can you explain ''It's all overlord now'' line please :D



Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
July 08 2014 06:26 GMT
#11
On July 08 2014 09:11 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 06:16 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
On July 07 2014 20:31 ninazerg wrote:
Every night, I pray to Tassadar. My dad sees me and calls me a faggot. I call him a cunt. I know he's just jealous of my devotion to Tassadar.

Tassadar whispers into my ear "En taro adun"

He looks my dad right in the eyes and says "It's all overlord now."


Can you explain ''It's all overlord now'' line please :D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Y2mCYUPow


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