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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
May 22 2014 15:59 GMT
#21
TL having standards has nothing to do with Dota being on this site or that.There's plenty of other sites that let you flame MOBAs, they're just not as good since their forums get clogged by whiney bullshit.
I think esports is pretty nice.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 22 2014 16:02 GMT
#22
On May 23 2014 00:56 d00p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 00:44 lichter wrote:
I actually complained about this >.>


Thanks for sharing. But you do need to grow up.


wait what? lol
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
May 22 2014 16:04 GMT
#23
wondring about one thing, what do you get from bashing other games? you feel better about anything? just enjoy SC2, coz yes, TL is the place for that!
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
CNSnow
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Greece67 Posts
May 22 2014 16:25 GMT
#24
Team Liquid is not just a website about SC2(/Dota/HS). It is a business. And if people like MOBAs more, then they should like MOBAs more if they want to have a chance to "survive" in the e-gaming scene. So there may be an implicit preference about MOBAs and so they treat their MOBA users friendlier.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 22 2014 16:26 GMT
#25
On May 23 2014 00:56 d00p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 00:44 lichter wrote:
I actually complained about this >.>


Thanks for sharing. But you do need to grow up.


No, I mean I mentioned to the other staff that I thought it was too lenient. -_-''
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 16:44:17
May 22 2014 16:38 GMT
#26
Tl will always be a sc website.deal with it.it has been a sc website since 2004 and no dota or lota or w.e will change that.
And yes, the sc franchise is more sophisticated mechanically and far more competitive (kespa) than any other game and i dont have a problem with it not being mainstream like moba games which come and go like flies.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 22 2014 16:38 GMT
#27
On May 23 2014 01:25 CNSnow wrote:
Team Liquid is not just a website about SC2(/Dota/HS). It is a business. And if people like MOBAs more, then they should like MOBAs more if they want to have a chance to "survive" in the e-gaming scene. So there may be an implicit preference about MOBAs and so they treat their MOBA users friendlier.


Yeah, you're off the mark lol. TL staff actively hate and avoid LoL, the current biggest esport. It isn't about business to them.
Useless wet fish.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 22 2014 16:51 GMT
#28
I disagree. MOBA bashing shouldn't be OK.

But it's really obnoxious how much people can hate on SC2 without getting any form of warning or something.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 22 2014 16:52 GMT
#29
I highly disagree with allowing other games to be bashed on by people.
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calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
May 22 2014 16:53 GMT
#30
So, did the guy who wrote "stupid Starcraft" in the OP quote get a warn? If he didn't, then the OP may have a point like "if he can, why can't I?".
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
May 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#31
On May 23 2014 01:38 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 01:25 CNSnow wrote:
Team Liquid is not just a website about SC2(/Dota/HS). It is a business. And if people like MOBAs more, then they should like MOBAs more if they want to have a chance to "survive" in the e-gaming scene. So there may be an implicit preference about MOBAs and so they treat their MOBA users friendlier.


Yeah, you're off the mark lol. TL staff actively hate and avoid LoL, the current biggest esport. It isn't about business to them.

Everything else aside, saying we 'hate' LoL is not true. Our reasons for not having LoL are much deeper than 'we hate LoL'.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#32
On May 23 2014 02:07 Firebolt145 wrote:
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On May 23 2014 01:38 Capped wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:25 CNSnow wrote:
Team Liquid is not just a website about SC2(/Dota/HS). It is a business. And if people like MOBAs more, then they should like MOBAs more if they want to have a chance to "survive" in the e-gaming scene. So there may be an implicit preference about MOBAs and so they treat their MOBA users friendlier.


Yeah, you're off the mark lol. TL staff actively hate and avoid LoL, the current biggest esport. It isn't about business to them.

Everything else aside, saying we 'hate' LoL is not true. Our reasons for not having LoL are much deeper than 'we hate LoL'.


Well, biased then.
Useless wet fish.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 22 2014 17:11 GMT
#33
On May 23 2014 01:53 calh wrote:
So, did the guy who wrote "stupid Starcraft" in the OP quote get a warn? If he didn't, then the OP may have a point like "if he can, why can't I?".

Because moderation isn't perfect, and we don't have a team of hundreds of people reading the forums? Its what the report button is for. In general game bashing, of any sort is a no-no, and we're never going to let people bash games. I don't especially care if you're flaming LoL, SC2, DotA, MtG, Dominons 4, or any other game, there is a difference between rational discourse and "HAHAHA, GAME X IS SO LOW SKILLS AND FOR NOOBS!"

On May 23 2014 01:38 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 01:25 CNSnow wrote:
Team Liquid is not just a website about SC2(/Dota/HS). It is a business. And if people like MOBAs more, then they should like MOBAs more if they want to have a chance to "survive" in the e-gaming scene. So there may be an implicit preference about MOBAs and so they treat their MOBA users friendlier.


Yeah, you're off the mark lol. TL staff actively hate and avoid LoL, the current biggest esport. It isn't about business to them.

Its untrue that staff hates LoL, check Nazgul's little AMA in the LoL forum here, but that mental image of tl staff hating league has been, and is wrong.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 22 2014 17:14 GMT
#34
On May 23 2014 01:38 lastride wrote:
moba games which come and go like flies.

Yeah ok...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
May 22 2014 17:30 GMT
#35
OP, I feel like, as a foundation SC2 site, TL should moderate slightly more harshly against people who spew negative bs about it.

A bias towards SC2 should be expected and tolerated. On the other hand, "game bashing", which is unreasonably, any game will never lead to a positive community..... it's just bad dialogue
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 18:22:35
May 22 2014 17:31 GMT
#36
This kind of catharsis serves no point, and only makes for increased incidents of internet pissing matches between users. The fact I haven't seen an instance of a game bashing related bans in the ABL for sometime is a good thing. Flashback a couple of years and it was a far more common occurance.

TL is a place for more directed conversations about SC2 than other forums, namely /r/starcraft allow for (by virtue of the format and much more active moderation), not allowing for tired jokes about the qualities of other games doesn't make it less of an SC site.

You can have opinions on whatever you want, just don't be an ass about how you express them, or preface them with, "I'll get banned for this," and own your statement.

I would also say you are failing to account for existing rapport between mods and users.
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
737 Posts
May 22 2014 17:32 GMT
#37
TL.net was founded on Starcraft / Brood War, so it applies to SC2 as well I assume. It has expanded with DotA/Melee as well which I have no problems with, but one must never forget the site's roots.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 18:41:26
May 22 2014 17:50 GMT
#38
On May 23 2014 01:38 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 01:25 CNSnow wrote:
Team Liquid is not just a website about SC2(/Dota/HS). It is a business. And if people like MOBAs more, then they should like MOBAs more if they want to have a chance to "survive" in the e-gaming scene. So there may be an implicit preference about MOBAs and so they treat their MOBA users friendlier.


Yeah, you're off the mark lol. TL staff actively hate and avoid LoL, the current biggest esport. It isn't about business to them.

Speaking of being off the mark, so are you.

Edit: clarified
AdministratorBreak the chains
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
May 22 2014 18:17 GMT
#39
On May 23 2014 02:11 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 01:53 calh wrote:
So, did the guy who wrote "stupid Starcraft" in the OP quote get a warn? If he didn't, then the OP may have a point like "if he can, why can't I?".

Because moderation isn't perfect, and we don't have a team of hundreds of people reading the forums?


Fair enough, but it's a bit hard to believe it's a coincidence that ALL (there were like 10) the negative comments about dota were noticed and received a warning, whereas this was not. And that (BabyKnight retires) thread isn't the only one I've noticed this trend in.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 18:21:11
May 22 2014 18:20 GMT
#40
On May 23 2014 02:50 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 01:38 Capped wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:25 CNSnow wrote:
Team Liquid is not just a website about SC2(/Dota/HS). It is a business. And if people like MOBAs more, then they should like MOBAs more if they want to have a chance to "survive" in the e-gaming scene. So there may be an implicit preference about MOBAs and so they treat their MOBA users friendlier.


Yeah, you're off the mark lol. TL staff actively hate and avoid LoL, the current biggest esport. It isn't about business to them.

Speaking of being off the mark, so are you.

Also, I'm going to provide a longer response to this in an hour or so.


I seem to have hijacked the thread.

The main point of that post was the end of it, the moderation of bashing isn't about business.
Useless wet fish.
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