• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:25
CEST 21:25
KST 04:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week0Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer6Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14
StarCraft 2
General
Rain's Behind the Scenes Storytime Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing How herO can make history in the Code S S2 finals
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 Preliminary Maps BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Which UAE App Developers Are Leading the Innovatio
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32473 users

Finally have the gear of a champion.

Blogs > reps)squishy
Post a Reply
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 16:27:34
May 18 2014 16:26 GMT
#1
[image loading]

[image loading]

The logitech mini optical.
I snagged it from ebay used for 10 dollars. The mouse goes for 100+ dollars new. The mouse's condition is in ridiculously good shape. Back in Korea around 2006-2007 it was the starcraft mouse not a starcraft mouse its "THE starcraft mouse." Every progamer was using it even players that were sponsored by razer (NaDa) and other WeMadeFox players refused to change there gear. Why was it the biggest mouse? No one exactly knows some people say it is because its cheap and everyone could get one. But my guess why the office mouse became the most iconic gaming mouse is before pros were in gaming houses they played in PC Cafes. At the PC cafe they became immensely used to the gear that turns out to have a perfect dpi for BroodWar. If you every watch a game of brood war pro league or osl you would be able to see the iconic mouse. So why does the mouse go for so much? It is discontinued making it very rare to come by.

BoxeR aka FakeBoxeR aka MarineKingPrime with the classic peripherals
[image loading]

The Qsenn DT-35.
why is it legendary? Again Korean pros using it from all way back to 1999 were it was a different version the (Samsung DT-35). The keyboard was cheap and was at all PC bangs and the Koreans knew that anything labeled gaming was a gimmick. Even know gaming tags are pretty gimmicky unless the keyboard is mechanical and the mouse has a great sensor and drivers it probably not worth it. The keyboard is a simple rubber dome keyboard. What makes it special? Well if you were to compare multiple rubber domes the qsenn would have the most responsive and less gummy feel than most. The Qsenn feels better and is about 10$ and is Korea and is used in all PC bangs even today. A few progamers in sc2 still use it.




Notice they are using the zowie mico which was modeled off the logitech mini optical.

Boxer's Samsung DT-35
[image loading]

***
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 18 2014 16:57 GMT
#2
Wow, they actually do take the keys out. That's pretty fucking crazy.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
nunun
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark181 Posts
May 18 2014 19:04 GMT
#3
The mouse is legendary. I used one of these when i was playing CS 1.6, and it was the best mouse. It still is one of the best mice I own, and i regularly pick it up just to look at it for nostalgia.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 18 2014 21:40 GMT
#4
On May 19 2014 01:57 ninazerg wrote:
Wow, they actually do take the keys out. That's pretty fucking crazy.


Yeah ofc because they are useless. I've also seen them change keys as well to different colours. In the end it doesn't matter because Flash uses a standard keyboard with nothing modified. (the ruler and tape is key though)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 21:55:32
May 18 2014 21:53 GMT
#5
On May 19 2014 06:40 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2014 01:57 ninazerg wrote:
Wow, they actually do take the keys out. That's pretty fucking crazy.


Yeah ofc because they are useless. I've also seen them change keys as well to different colours. In the end it doesn't matter because Flash uses a standard keyboard with nothing modified. (the ruler and tape is key though)


relevant. This was during to the hybrid proleague now he is sponsored by razer no longer using the gear.

"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 23:13:32
May 18 2014 23:11 GMT
#6
I hope you don't plan on using the LMO for SC2, its a great fingertip mouse for BW because BW is played in such a low resolution, but for SC2 the LMO doesn't have nearly the DPI to be accurate. Either the mouse will be incredibly sluggish or it will jump pixels.

I loved the LMO for BW but it is not usable for SC2. I don't think any pros use it anymore, and that's just for technical reasons sadly.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
May 19 2014 00:08 GMT
#7
It only skips pixels if you use in game mouse speed changer I believe. Plus I love slow mice. If I use a dpi that requires me using wrist it hurts.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 19 2014 11:17 GMT
#8
I had Logitech Mini Optical like 2 years ago and I've bought it with a real cheap prize iirc.Mouse is nice but only for people with small hands.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 19 2014 17:37 GMT
#9
I've been looking here and there for a QSenn for a while at a cheap price, but have found none that are really in my price range. I heard from a friend about an old computer salvage place in my area that had one for super cheap but when I went there I found that the guy had sold it the day before for like 25$!!

I almost dropped to my knees and cried in that store.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
May 20 2014 02:52 GMT
#10
On May 20 2014 02:37 vult wrote:
I've been looking here and there for a QSenn for a while at a cheap price, but have found none that are really in my price range. I heard from a friend about an old computer salvage place in my area that had one for super cheap but when I went there I found that the guy had sold it the day before for like 25$!!

I almost dropped to my knees and cried in that store.

:O nooooo! gotta go on amazon you have to pay for shipping but make sure its USB too.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Suichoy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada397 Posts
May 20 2014 03:07 GMT
#11
I already posted in the mechanical keyboard thread but I bought a Q-Senn in Seoul for 15 dollars (could have gotten it cheaper but I didn't know) and it is a GOOD keyboard for the price, the best feeling rubberdome I have tried. If you can get it at a good price, I think most Starcraft nerds will prefer this keyboard over non-mechanical keyboards.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
May 20 2014 03:49 GMT
#12
On May 20 2014 12:07 Suichoy wrote:
I already posted in the mechanical keyboard thread but I bought a Q-Senn in Seoul for 15 dollars (could have gotten it cheaper but I didn't know) and it is a GOOD keyboard for the price, the best feeling rubberdome I have tried. If you can get it at a good price, I think most Starcraft nerds will prefer this keyboard over non-mechanical keyboards.


Weirdly enough yes. I can get into a rythm where I can't feel that I am using a keyboard but with mechanical keyboards I have used Mx blue, red, brown, black I can't. Plus the keyboard is water proof and cheap.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#18
RotterdaM1297
SteadfastSC651
FunKaTv 476
IndyStarCraft 337
kabyraGe 224
BRAT_OK 137
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1297
SteadfastSC 651
FunKaTv 476
IndyStarCraft 337
BRAT_OK 137
ProTech61
EmSc Tv 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Bonyth 164
firebathero 161
yabsab 12
Backho 12
Shine 8
Dota 2
Gorgc9102
Counter-Strike
fl0m1970
flusha495
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu334
Other Games
tarik_tv68754
gofns34438
FrodaN2150
ceh9979
C9.Mang0679
mouzStarbuck200
Fuzer 144
Mew2King143
KnowMe103
RushiSC72
Trikslyr64
UpATreeSC28
trigger3
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream17791
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 16
EmSc2Tv 16
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 25
• LUISG 14
• Reevou 2
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2949
• WagamamaTV381
• Ler111
League of Legends
• Jankos2997
• TFBlade1549
Other Games
• imaqtpie1547
• Shiphtur371
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 35m
RSL Revival
14h 35m
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
PiGosaur Monday
1d 4h
RSL Revival
1d 14h
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
Circuito Brasileiro de…
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-11
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.