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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 16:27:34
May 18 2014 16:26 GMT
#1
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The logitech mini optical.
I snagged it from ebay used for 10 dollars. The mouse goes for 100+ dollars new. The mouse's condition is in ridiculously good shape. Back in Korea around 2006-2007 it was the starcraft mouse not a starcraft mouse its "THE starcraft mouse." Every progamer was using it even players that were sponsored by razer (NaDa) and other WeMadeFox players refused to change there gear. Why was it the biggest mouse? No one exactly knows some people say it is because its cheap and everyone could get one. But my guess why the office mouse became the most iconic gaming mouse is before pros were in gaming houses they played in PC Cafes. At the PC cafe they became immensely used to the gear that turns out to have a perfect dpi for BroodWar. If you every watch a game of brood war pro league or osl you would be able to see the iconic mouse. So why does the mouse go for so much? It is discontinued making it very rare to come by.

BoxeR aka FakeBoxeR aka MarineKingPrime with the classic peripherals
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The Qsenn DT-35.
why is it legendary? Again Korean pros using it from all way back to 1999 were it was a different version the (Samsung DT-35). The keyboard was cheap and was at all PC bangs and the Koreans knew that anything labeled gaming was a gimmick. Even know gaming tags are pretty gimmicky unless the keyboard is mechanical and the mouse has a great sensor and drivers it probably not worth it. The keyboard is a simple rubber dome keyboard. What makes it special? Well if you were to compare multiple rubber domes the qsenn would have the most responsive and less gummy feel than most. The Qsenn feels better and is about 10$ and is Korea and is used in all PC bangs even today. A few progamers in sc2 still use it.




Notice they are using the zowie mico which was modeled off the logitech mini optical.

Boxer's Samsung DT-35
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 18 2014 16:57 GMT
#2
Wow, they actually do take the keys out. That's pretty fucking crazy.
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nunun
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark181 Posts
May 18 2014 19:04 GMT
#3
The mouse is legendary. I used one of these when i was playing CS 1.6, and it was the best mouse. It still is one of the best mice I own, and i regularly pick it up just to look at it for nostalgia.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 18 2014 21:40 GMT
#4
On May 19 2014 01:57 ninazerg wrote:
Wow, they actually do take the keys out. That's pretty fucking crazy.


Yeah ofc because they are useless. I've also seen them change keys as well to different colours. In the end it doesn't matter because Flash uses a standard keyboard with nothing modified. (the ruler and tape is key though)
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 21:55:32
May 18 2014 21:53 GMT
#5
On May 19 2014 06:40 dRaW wrote:
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On May 19 2014 01:57 ninazerg wrote:
Wow, they actually do take the keys out. That's pretty fucking crazy.


Yeah ofc because they are useless. I've also seen them change keys as well to different colours. In the end it doesn't matter because Flash uses a standard keyboard with nothing modified. (the ruler and tape is key though)


relevant. This was during to the hybrid proleague now he is sponsored by razer no longer using the gear.

"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-18 23:13:32
May 18 2014 23:11 GMT
#6
I hope you don't plan on using the LMO for SC2, its a great fingertip mouse for BW because BW is played in such a low resolution, but for SC2 the LMO doesn't have nearly the DPI to be accurate. Either the mouse will be incredibly sluggish or it will jump pixels.

I loved the LMO for BW but it is not usable for SC2. I don't think any pros use it anymore, and that's just for technical reasons sadly.
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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
May 19 2014 00:08 GMT
#7
It only skips pixels if you use in game mouse speed changer I believe. Plus I love slow mice. If I use a dpi that requires me using wrist it hurts.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
May 19 2014 11:17 GMT
#8
I had Logitech Mini Optical like 2 years ago and I've bought it with a real cheap prize iirc.Mouse is nice but only for people with small hands.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 19 2014 17:37 GMT
#9
I've been looking here and there for a QSenn for a while at a cheap price, but have found none that are really in my price range. I heard from a friend about an old computer salvage place in my area that had one for super cheap but when I went there I found that the guy had sold it the day before for like 25$!!

I almost dropped to my knees and cried in that store.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
May 20 2014 02:52 GMT
#10
On May 20 2014 02:37 vult wrote:
I've been looking here and there for a QSenn for a while at a cheap price, but have found none that are really in my price range. I heard from a friend about an old computer salvage place in my area that had one for super cheap but when I went there I found that the guy had sold it the day before for like 25$!!

I almost dropped to my knees and cried in that store.

:O nooooo! gotta go on amazon you have to pay for shipping but make sure its USB too.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Suichoy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada397 Posts
May 20 2014 03:07 GMT
#11
I already posted in the mechanical keyboard thread but I bought a Q-Senn in Seoul for 15 dollars (could have gotten it cheaper but I didn't know) and it is a GOOD keyboard for the price, the best feeling rubberdome I have tried. If you can get it at a good price, I think most Starcraft nerds will prefer this keyboard over non-mechanical keyboards.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
May 20 2014 03:49 GMT
#12
On May 20 2014 12:07 Suichoy wrote:
I already posted in the mechanical keyboard thread but I bought a Q-Senn in Seoul for 15 dollars (could have gotten it cheaper but I didn't know) and it is a GOOD keyboard for the price, the best feeling rubberdome I have tried. If you can get it at a good price, I think most Starcraft nerds will prefer this keyboard over non-mechanical keyboards.


Weirdly enough yes. I can get into a rythm where I can't feel that I am using a keyboard but with mechanical keyboards I have used Mx blue, red, brown, black I can't. Plus the keyboard is water proof and cheap.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
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