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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
May 10 2014 13:58 GMT
#1
Recently I've been logging into NA and laddering as Random because hey why the hell not. If I get XvP I can probably learn a little more about my main race and how to deal with Z and T a little better, then I realised, that'd require me to be vaguely decent at Z and T first, which I'm really not.

Out of the three races, my P is obviously my best, I went into this knowing it would be. Being a P player normally that's to be expected. Then Z where I'm ok until it hits late game where I just get steamrolled then T where it's just absolutely terrible, there's just something about playing Terran that just doesn't stick with me.

Surprisingly this doesn't bother me too much, I've never really liked T since I started watching SCII, they're so limited on builds it's like you have to one thing or another and that really doesn't appeal to me playstyle wise and there's very little variation in army composition. It just feels really boring to play.

That doubled with my Protoss experience where I'm used to having more expensive compositions with either Stargate or Robo units with Warpgate back-up means I get the feeling I'm not building enough Barracks in early/mid-game, I'm not used to having such a cheap army made up of t1 units backed up with some healers.

My issues with Z are mainly macro based, Z is a funky race to play imo. It's very easy to get supply blocked and run out of gas. I'm slowly getting better at the latter as I expand more often when I feel safe to but I still find myself getting horribly supply blocked due to the larva mechanic and it being so easy to spam up on units while forgetting to make overlords, then there's a point where I sometimes forget to inject too so I don't have enough larva when I need it most.

Honestly though, even though I suck at T and Z, I'm still finding random insanely fun to play outside of my offrace mirrors. I really dislike TvT and ZvZ (ZvZ moreso than TvT) they just don't seem as fun as PvP is, again it's a lack of variety in build orders thing. I just need to improve my other two races a tad bit quicker now my PvX has somehow managed to carry me into silver league alone.

Here's my win ratios for this season so far (most of the Protoss wins, especially the PvT have been at Bronze level. On EU where I only play P in silver my PvX ratios are much worse with only PvZ being at 50%, PvP and PvT are both below that at 36% and 42% respectively.)

PvP - 50%
PvT - 100%
PvZ - 50%

TvP - 0%
TvT - 0%
TvZ - 0%

ZvP - 0%
ZvT - 33%
ZvZ - 50%

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ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
May 10 2014 19:55 GMT
#2
Good luck!

I was P most of my play time in WoL, but the 1st half year of HotS I played Zerg. Few tips:
1. Location hotkeys are your friends. I used them for injectes, bit slower than some other methods, but at least my Queens don't wander all over the place.
2. Get used to build always something, and when u notice u have alot of larva, inject and do the following:
- Build a few overlords depending on the number of hatches u have and whether u build roaches or not. (1 for each hatch each cycle, 2-3 per hatch if u build roaches. Every time u build an overlord, rally him straight to some place.
- Build units/drones
- Spread creep. Keep the creep Queens on a separate hotkey.
3. All units u build, add the eggs straight to your army group. Press ctrl on the eggs on the bar bellow, hold shift and the army hotkey.

Hope that helps! GL
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jamesapjoyce
Profile Joined August 2012
61 Posts
May 10 2014 20:05 GMT
#3
Thank you for writing this. It was an interesting read!
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
May 11 2014 15:49 GMT
#4
I've always dabbled in all matchups, which resulted in me switching my main race or race-picking. It also resulted in much fun and a wider understanding of how races work and different strategies/tactics/timings. It will help you overall, but don't make the same mistake I did, that is, invest too much time in your non-main matchups or switching too often.

Thanks for writing, I like reading things like this.
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