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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 20:20:49
April 18 2014 20:19 GMT
#21
On April 15 2014 01:59 9heart wrote:
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On April 15 2014 01:43 CYFAWS wrote:
On April 14 2014 05:09 beachbeachy wrote:
You're an addict. Denial and rationalization. Of course you can't experience joy out of life if you're putting chemicals in your brain that shit on your dopamine and seratontine levels.

Good news is that I'm an addict as well, and I haven't used anything in a while (being clean means abstinence from all drugs, including alcohol and weed). There's help for you if you ever want it.


bullshit. addiction is physical, since he didnt use drugs the past 6 months, except for non addictive mj, he is not addicted. he tested his hormone levels as well.

that idea of "being clean" is extremely, extremely damaging to addicts chances of getting rid of their addiction problems. there is absolutely no reason to avoid one drug when you abuse another. if you would start abusing mj to get over alcoholism, then you have an mj problem and need to handle that as well, but the 100% most effective scientifically proven way to get rid of addiction is to start using in whatever means you actually want to use. if you WANT to be a gutterfiend, you won't be well off doing anything else. if you want to smoke the occasional joint and drink some drinks with friends, that's what you should do. if you can't, step back more until you can.

there can be no cure for drug abuse until you can use the drug without abusing. all this 12 step shit and complete abstinence is like 50 years old prejudiced bullshit.


You are ignorant. Please educate yourself about addiction and the brain, and come back when you have something interesting or relevant to share. I suggest starting with:

http://www.amazon.com/Cracked-Life-Edge-Rehab-Clinic/dp/0060096551/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397494682&sr=8-1&keywords=cracked dr drew


dr. drew lol

i would recommend books by people like dr. abraham twerski, hasidic rabbi and psychologist who founded gateway rehab near pittsburgh and has spent around 50 years studying and treating addiction. not a media whore who has a terrible record of exploiting his celebrity patients and an even worse record at keeping them clean and sober.

but even then long-term sobriety using the disease theory of addiction and the 12-step method that is so popular has a success rate (long-term sobriety success) of like 1-2%... almost anywhere else such failure would cause almost everything that was believed to be thrown out and start fresh. but the disease theory of addiction does have biological scientific validity and most people in the rehab/recovery community cannot even conceive of trying anything else other than the 12-step method, it's the best we have no matter how much it actually sucks. alternative methods to the 12 steps like rational recovery etc. don't do much better at achieving long-term sobriety. substance abuse and addiction is very much a gordian knot and no alexander has yet appeared to cut it.
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MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
April 21 2014 10:41 GMT
#22
I think drugs just give you a different take on things. But there are bits of life that can give comparable highs, they are just harder to get to, more time intensive or more dangerous (depending on drug of choice).

For example dropped some acid and it was super awesome. Getting giggly, seeing all the colours, auras, dancing trees. Thats an impossible thing to get without drugs. Would definately do again.

But then I've has awesome times without any drugs. For example awesome powder days out skiing still give the best tactile sensations of out anything else I've done. Nailing a grab you've been working on for a while is a super good feeling or just the feeling of flying of a good kicker or drop is also so much fun.

Been to gigs without drugs or alcohol and it's also been super fun, crazy dancing, crowd surfing, moshing etc.

Do emphasise with how most of life is kinda dry. Running, cycling, football, lifing weights is kinda zzzzz for me (so jealous of people that find that stuff fun), all the stuff I like isn't really in my area. Video games help a lot, they let you do stuff you can't ever do (like go around in a big stompy space robot).
SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 12:56:01
April 21 2014 12:54 GMT
#23
On April 21 2014 19:41 MoonfireSpam wrote:


Do emphasise with how most of life is kinda dry. Running, cycling, football, lifing weights is kinda zzzzz for me (so jealous of people that find that stuff fun), all the stuff I like isn't really in my area. Video games help a lot, they let you do stuff you can't ever do (like go around in a big stompy space robot).


Man life is not dry.....life is the greatest drama of them all.

I guess if you are still young it is very hard to comprehend that...but once you see enough shit in life....strangely enough you'll actually start to appreciate those "mediocre" times.

I've had alot of problems with drugs, i got kicked out of highschool...that got me into a major depression for 3 years...i nearly died...(shooting up vodka and stuff when i had nothing else).... then my best friend overdosed on heroin...from that day on, i never touched anything. In the years after that i got a degree as paramedic and also a degree as game artist...and now i am starting my own company.

Im happy with this boring life.......i dont need all that shit from the past anymore...

Young people should be happy with what they have...drugs can seriously fuck you up...its not worth it...life has to much up and downs already without drugs.
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