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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 19:41:27
February 24 2014 18:14 GMT
#1
My round 1 strategy was a disaster. Ranked 1500 or so. I went with all-SKT lineup, with Rain as captain (couldn't trade him away), and only Classic and someone else made me some points. This time, I want top 300 at least. I'm going to maintain this blog to keep track of my progress. Feel free to comment.

I followed the progress of top 2 players from last round, Thruth and sasquatch, and learned a couple of things:

1. Main team: If they're not playing, don't have them on your team! You're not playing? You're not making me any points. Yes I know you are a 1 pointer on SKT or KT and you'll give me 1 point by default from your team winning, but that is passive. Need active points!

2. Anti team: if a guy is playing, they're gonna be traded for someone who doesn't play. The only disadvantage of having someone that doesn't play on the anti team is if their team plays and they win, you only get -1. But if that player plays (and god forbid wins an ace match as well as a regular match) you'll be in trouble - look at Creator this weekend, instant -8 for people who thought he was overrated at 5 points.

3. Trade... and get lucky. I'm gonna trade like a mad man. But seriously, any win/loss increases/decreases the trade value of your players A LOT. More than I thought it would. One win will make your player more valuable instantly!

4. Get 1-2 high hitters and get lucky they don't flop like rain did last season. Too many high pointers and you have to get 1 pointers to fill. You can't do it without high cost players. Again, all top 300 players have at least one high hitter. I got Zest because of his all-kill against SKT and TY.

5. Get 2-3 high ratio of cost/points won from last season. Players with 4-6 points. Don't have too many of these, otherwise your team will be mediocre. I'd rather have one 7 pointer and one 1 pointer than two 4 pointers. I got Rogue here.

6. Get lucky with ppl who didn't play last season or research them. How will gumiho, choya, mkp, life perform in proleague? Who knows. .. I got MKP because it's a TvT and he's only 3 points.

7. No more "all players from one team", doesn't work like that anymore. The team bonus for a 3-0 has been decreased by 2 points compared to last year's FPL.

So here's the team I started with:

Top 300 pls

Main Team
8 (T)TY(Baby)
Heavy hitter #1, plays twice this week. Plays all the time. Initially had Maru but Maru has one game against Flash which he might lose. Same price as Maru but has more chances of winning.
TY vs Cure(T)
TY vs Hurricane(P)
should be 2 easy points (lost the first one so far)

6 (P)Zest (captain)
Heavy hitter #2, plays twice this week. Plays all the time.
Zest vs Terminator(P) -> easy point (yup)
Zest vs Solar(Z) -> possible loss

5 (Z)Rogue(Savage)
Wildcard. Had one of the best points/cost last season for his price. Hope he keeps it up. Hyped by Major. If he doesn't perform in the first 2 weeks I can trade him.
Rogue vs Stats(P) -> aligulac says 60% Rogue (he lost but let's see next game)
Rogue vs Hydra(Z) -> anything can go

3 (T)MarineKing
Wildcard/Filler that plays at least 1 game, vs Dream(T). (and he won - Great pick I'd say)

2 (Z)KassiA
Filler that plays at least 1 game, vs DRG (he lost but still won me one point)

2 (T)Turn
Filler that plays at least 1 game, vs Action(Z)

4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-hots]Jin Air Green Wings[/tlpd]
Picking any other team other than KT, SKT, Samsung, JinAir and IM will lose you points.

Anti Team
6 (Z)soO
I am really afraid of this one... doen't play this week but some people say he won't get fielded a lot. I'll trade him if he plays NEXT week.
3 (T)Mvp
Doesn't play this week with how stacked IM is. Initially had Hydra, but I have a feeling Hydra is coming back.
4 (P)Trap
Doesn't play this week with how stacked IM is.

Results after 3 nights:

(P)Zest 8
(T)MarineKing 4
(Z)KassiA 1
(T)TurN 1
(T)TY((T)BaBy) 1
(Z)Rogue((Z)Savage) 0
(Wiki)Jin air Green Wings 1

(Z)soO -1
(T)Mvp 0
(P)Trap 0

Sub-Total: 16 Sub-Total: -1
Rank: #362 Score: 15

Not bad. I was at 270 yesterday and a lot of people that have Creator in their mains are now above me, but I'm hoping Rogue and TY will give me points tonight. Zest was totally worth the money already, TY will win me money in the future. Kassia still gave me 1 point even though he lost his game, same with Turn and TY actually (heh). Not the same for Rogue but he still has the potential to.

MarineKing, HELL YES. His cost was 3 points, but now his trade value is 4.10 !!! , just for 1 win (And his team win).
He's almost as valuable as the following 5 pointers who either lost or haven't played yet:

2. HerO IM 4.29
52. Life IM 4.29
52. Rogue(Savage) JIN 4.29
52. Super MVP 4.29

So if MarineKing doesn't play next week, I can trade him for someone else that will make me points.

Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
February 25 2014 10:06 GMT
#2
Isn't soO 6 points and Mvp 3?
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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-25 23:58:15
February 25 2014 19:58 GMT
#3
You're right, I fixed it. Now, results from last night:

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)TY beats (P)Hurricane (yes, expected)
(P)Zest beats (Z)Solar (yes, expected)
(T)TurN beats (Z)Action (holy crap, yes, and unexpected -> goes to show that it's better to have 2 pointer that plays rather than having a 3 pointer that doesn't play)
(Z)Rogue loses to (Z)Hydra (ZvZ so it's okay, but it's his second loss for a 5 pointer)
Jin air wins.


Thanks to these results I rocket from rank 362 to rank 43, HELL YEA!

(P)Zest 13
(T)TY((T)BaBy) 5
(T)TurN 4
(T)MarineKing 4
(Z)KassiA 1
(Z)Rogue((Z)Savage) 1
(Wiki)Jin air Green Wings 4

(Z)soO -1
(T)Mvp 0
(P)Trap 0

Sub-Total: 32 Sub-Total: -1
Rank: #43 Score: 31

Now, for next week: Zest, TY, MarineKing are here to stay. Turn won me totally unexpected points so he might stay even if he doesn't play. I'm conflicted about what to do with Rogue, he cost 5 points and didn't win anything. His trade value is pretty bad now, 3.95. I should give him more chances depending on who he plays next week. Kassia at 2.10 will probably go if, say, Gumiho (1.43) plays next week.


I realized it's IMPERATIVE to having players on the bench on your anti: 1. Their trade values are lower after the games, so they can be traded more easily next week. 2. The most you can lose is -1 from team win. 3. No surprises of losing 8 points in one night (for example Creator, ouch -> trade value jumped from 6 to 7.35, and the people who are stuck with him can only trade him off with Flash, Zest, Maru, TY, or Soulkey. OUCH!!!!)

Great week, top 100. Let's hope soO is not fielded next week.
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
February 26 2014 00:57 GMT
#4
Zest is some shit fo sho. Fucker saved me from oblivion last night. I really want Kassia to do something because he was cheap and is fielded quite a bit.

Also, fuck BaBy, Cure 4 lyfe.
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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
February 28 2014 18:38 GMT
#5
Week 2 games have been announced
Oh boy! Where to start. How about my anti. Before the first week, it was GREAT knowing that 100% of my anti players will not lose me any points because they're not playing.

But week 2, Here's the situation on anti:

(Z)(Z)KassiA <Polar Night> (P)(P)Trap
(P)(P)Trap <Yeonsu> (Z)(Z)DongRaeGu
(T)(T)MarineKing <Habitation Station> (Z)(Z)soO

Mvp is still not playing, otherwise I'd be in trouble. Trap has 2 games, one against rookie KassiA(who's on my main BTW), so that's a sure win for Trap, and one against DRG, that I was about to say can go either way until I realized Trap is in RO16 in GSL!!!!
Oh yeah, Trap must go! The other game, involving soO, (Z)soO vs (T)MarineKing is going to be played after these 3 matches:

(P)(P)Choya <Yeonsu> (Z)(Z)Soulkey
(P)(P)Creator <Frost> (T)(T)FanTaSy
(P)(P)State <The King Sejong Station> (P)(P)Classic

There's a high chance of a 3-0 for SKT. So soO might not even play. Or if Creator beats Fantasy I'm hoping MKP can beat soO since MKP has good TvZ (it's not TvP), and HOPE that soO is not sent as an ace player for SKT.

Either way, the choice to trade soO or to trade Trap from my anti is clear. Options are: Curious, Squirtle, Hydra, Cure, Stork. Who doesn't play this week? Curious, 0-1 so far, still on IM. With how stacked IM is, he won't be fielded much. The option is clear. Trading Trap for Curious.

Main team games:
(T)(T)MarineKing <Yeonsu> (Z)(Z)Life
(Z)(Z)KassiA <Polar Night> (P)(P)Trap
(T)(T)Bbyong <Outboxer> (P)(P)Zest
(P)(P)HerO <The King Sejong Station> (T)(T)TY
(Z)(Z)Rogue <Outboxer> (P)(P)Hurricane
(T)(T)MarineKing <Habitation Station> (Z)(Z)soO

First thing, (T)TurN is not playing. Needs to be traded! Can you guys help me with this? First option:
(T)Reality, plays vs (P)sOs - maybe there's something better (or maybe Reality can prepare some widow mine drops after the patch?)
(Z)TRUE, Z on Jin Air, plays vs (P)Stork. hmm
(Z)Sacsri, Z on SKT, plays vs (P)MVP.Swagger. I'(T)M actually inclined to pick this one the most

KassiA plays once but he'll get murdered. What do you guys think, trade him for Sacsri and trade TurN for Reality or TRUE?
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 01 2014 03:38 GMT
#6
Sacsri is a safer trade (STOOOOOOOOOORK).

I don't know about trading KassiA, though (he's on my main too and I'm torn between trading or not). On one hand, maybe it's the last chance to cash him out for better player. On the other, he's the best Zerg PRIME has, so he'll always be fielded.
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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 14:02:30
March 01 2014 14:01 GMT
#7
I traded KassiA for Sacsri and Turn for True. I have Jin Air as my team, so any team win is going to give True an extra point. KassiA has no chance against Trap because Trap is on fire. I don't know about "he'll always be fielded", there's no more requirement to have a player from each race. Another thing I thought about: Prime will lose more; Sacsri is on SKT1, which will win more. That team win is a small but probably useful +1.

oh I just saw your team, we're so similar wow, soO and Trap on anti, Zest and Kassia on main. Nice. Let's see who gets more points
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
March 03 2014 16:01 GMT
#8
Week 2 day 1 and 2: still top 100 (rank 64), but with mixed results.

The bad:

TY, my heavy hitter, has not been worth the 8 points so far, with 1-2. I think he's still got time to make up for it.

Zest also lost, twice, but I can't complain, he's won me 12 pts so far.

IM won, which gives me -2 since I have 2 IM players on anti
Kassia lost and his trade value will be quite low now, he's a high candidate for trading next week, if there's anyone left to trade with. But I didn't have high expectations from him.
Mkp lost but I expected it.

The good:

Rogue finally won.
True won, might trade him if he doesn't play.
Jin air won.

I didnt lose too much from my anti. I surely hope soO doesnt win and then win again as ace, because that would seal the ddeal, and cost me a lot of points in the long run.
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 14:52:36
March 04 2014 14:51 GMT
#9
Week 2 conclusion:
(P)Zest 12                         (Z)Curious -2
(T)MarineKing 6                   (T)Mvp -2
(Z)Rogue((Z)Savage) 5             (Z)soO -2
(Z)TRUE((Z)Alone) 4                   (P)Trap 0
(T)TY((T)BaBy) 5
(Z)Sacsri 1
(T)TurN 4
(Z)KassiA 1

Jin Air Green Wings 8 Trade Tax -3
Sub-Total: 46 Sub-Total: -9
Rank: #144 Score: 37
YessS! soO not only didn't win/didn't play, he LOST against one of my main players. Even if SKT won, his trade value went DOWN! So if I need to trade soO away from my anti next week, I HAVE SO MANY MORE OPTIONS: Hydra, Fantasy, Solar, Stork, DRG, Super.

My trades were great last week, I avoided a -8 by Trap and gained 4 points from Turn. MKP won 1 game.

TY and Rogue have underperformed but they will be fielded a lot so they're here to stay.

Looking at the top 2 players so far, Juggsondrugs and jubil, I realize I should've put Trap on my main team - that would mean to trade off MarineKing and keep Kassia. Anyway, still top 300, and in great position to finish top 100. I managed to keep my anti losses to a minimum. I think it might be time to trade more aggressively for the big bucks, not just to avoid losses(maybe trade TY off for someone else that plays twice against worse players like Trap did last night)
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 04 2014 18:25 GMT
#10
This week killed me. From #91 to a bottom #823. DRG winning really killed me (who thought he would be picked for the Ace?) and he was fielded a total of 3 times with MVP winning, which I also never predicted given the lineups.

Oh well, there's always week 3.
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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
March 04 2014 20:52 GMT
#11
yeah, you were unlucky to pick DRG and Trap at the same time on your anti. Trading away Trap was a must, there was no other choice, so there was nothing you could do. If you had traded away DRG instead of Trap you'd have 1 less point and less options in trading Trap away next week. I also have a feeling Trap will win more than DRG.
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 04 2014 21:11 GMT
#12
Yeah, unlucky anti plus my non-earners on my main. Jila and Sora were lowballs that I picked because they were Protoss and they were playing Week 1 and I really expected CJ to do better than they are.
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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 21:30:06
March 04 2014 21:29 GMT
#13
Heh, that's rule #1 in how I made my team, it's been working so far for me!
1. Main team: If they're not playing, don't have them on your team! You're not playing? You're not making me any points.

So when you saw that Jila doesn't play at all in week 2, you should've traded Jila off at the beginning of this week. It's been working out OK for me: Turn won me some points in week 1, but wasn't fielded in week 2, so he was off! I got True, who won me 4 points.
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 05 2014 03:15 GMT
#14
Yeah. In hindsight I should have traded Jila for TRUE and Sora for Swagger, which were two trades I contemplated, but didn't make.
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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
March 07 2014 04:50 GMT
#15
Week 3 games
SK Telecom T1 vs Jin Air Green Wings

(P)PartinG < Polar Night LE > (P)sOs
(P)Classic < Habitation Station LE > (T)Cure
(P)Rain < Frost LE > (Z)Rogue (CliMax,Savage)
(Z)soO < The King Sejong Station > (T)Maru


Prime vs CJ Entus

(T)MarineKing < Polar Night LE > (T)Bunny
(P)Choya < Habitation Station LE > (P)herO
(P)Creator < Frost LE > (T)Bbyong
(P)State < The King Sejong Station > (Z)Hydra

KT Rolster vs MVP

(P)Zest < Polar Night LE > (P)Swagger
(T)TY < Habitation Station LE > (P)Super
(T)Flash < Frost LE > (Z)DongRaeGu
(P)Stats < The King Sejong Station > (P)Billowy

SK Telecom T1 vs Samsung Galaxy Khan

(P)Classic < The King Sejong Station > (Z)Shine
(T)FanTaSy < Outboxer > (Z)RorO
(P)Rain < Polar Night LE > (Z)Solar
(P)PartinG < Yeonsu LE > (T)Reality

Jin Air Green Wings vs Incredible Miracle

(Z)TRUE < Polar Night LE > (P)Trap
(P)sOs < Habitation Station LE > (Z)ByuL
(T)Maru < Frost LE > (P)YongHwa
(Z)Rogue (CliMax,Savage) < The King Sejong Station > (P)HerO

Main team:
MKP, Zest and TY are staying.
Rogue plays vs HerO and Rain, I'm thinking of trading him. Then again he has 2 games and more chances of giving me points.

No sacsri, needs to be traded. Options are:
Armani, plays vs Squirtle (ZvP)
choya, plays vs herO (no way choya wins)
state, plays vs hydra (hydra is a veteran, I have to give this to hydra)

But what do I know about Armani? http://aligulac.com/players/2566-Armani/results/ shows that he lost a lot of games.

True plays vs Trap, and I don't see him winning it. Options are more to trade here:
Bbyong, plays vs Creator (ugh)
Squirtle, hah. I actually think Squirtle will win this.
shine, plays vs herO and Creator(2 games but hard again)

Or I can keep True and finally grow some balls and trade TY for someone who plays twice this week:
Parting, vs SOS and Reality
Roro, vs Younghwa and Fantasy
Byul, vs SOS and Solar.

Hmm, will give this more thought.

Anti: The only game is soO vs Maru. Maru should win I think I'll be safe here and trade soO for Stork because Stork doesn't play.


ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 13:27:16
March 07 2014 15:49 GMT
#16
For now I traded

(Z)Sacsri for (P)Choya (yes choya plays vs herO but it's a PvP and choya is unpredictable. The other options in Armani and state are sure losses. I haven't seen state play a long game because he got cheesed, while choya played a longer game.)

(T)TY((T)BaBy) for (P)PartinG (my risky move of the week. Yes, TY has one easy game, but Parting plays twice so he has the potential to give me more points)

(Z)soO for (P)Stork Anti Team(gotta be safe and 100% sure I won't lose points).
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
March 08 2014 03:58 GMT
#17
Made the same anti team trade and I traded shitty (P)Sora for (Z)Shine, who plays twice and might win one of them because he's nuts.

Unfortunately, I'm still stuck with (P)Jila. Nobody I can trade him for is either playing or going to win their games.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 08 2014 04:11 GMT
#18
I wouldn't bother trading Sacsri away, he is at least nice to have for SKT winning points. Choya, State, and Armani are all practically guaranteed to lose, so...
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ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 12:44:19
March 08 2014 12:38 GMT
#19
you're right it's not worth the -1 trading point when keeping (Z)Sacsri will give me +2 for SKT possibly winning twice.

Instead I have traded (Z)TRUE for (Z)Shine as well; even though he has 2 hard ZvPs against herO and Creator, he's got more chances of giving me points this week than TRUE.

of the 3 (Armani Choya State), Choya has the highest chances IMO to win. He's not good in a macro game but it's best of 1 and he's unpredictable

I'm pretty sure this week I'll hop back in top 100, maybe even top 60.
ggofthejungle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 13:30:26
March 09 2014 13:26 GMT
#20
Week 3 day 1

The bad:
(P)PartinG lost to SoS. This was my "ballsy" move, didn't pay out.

The good
(Z)Rogue won vs Rain (yess Rogue is earning his 5 points)
(Z)Shine won vs (P)HerO (wow, didn't expect that, but at least one of my trades payed out, jeez!)
Jin air won (3-0 against SKT's top lineup of protoss! they're a keeper)
(T)Mvp lost his ace match(whew, that was an avoided blow that I didn't see coming).

Great day overall, I'll jump in top 50, but man, trading TY for Parting... such a missed opportunity, had I traded TY for Roro, I would have won 7 points in just 1 night(2 for win, 1 ace appearance, 3 for ace, 1 for team win, an additional +1 for 3-game win streak). Now how's that for an inspired trade? And I bet Roro will win next game against Fantasy too. What bugs me the most is I didn't even consider trading TY for Roro.

Holy crap, Solar in FPL, cost 7 points and 0-3, WOW!!! I am so glad I didn't pick him and got Rogue instead. Had Solar cost 6 points I would have considered him more, and at 5 points I might have gotten him

I am 99% certain I will be in top 300 at the end of round 2 (which was my goal), maybe even top 100. If I had done 2 trades (last week to put Trap on my main and this week to put Roro isntead of Parting) I would have been a contender to win round 2 FPL. But top 100 will be great too.

As it stands now, someone that has Roro, Creator, Zest, Classic, Cure(what the heck who expected him to get so many points) in their main will gonna win this.
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