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Why you should learn to program

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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
January 16 2014 00:20 GMT
#1
space

Imagine you are an astronaut going up to orbit. As you fall towards the horizon, your frame of reference shifts. No longer are you bound to the Earth, constantly falling down, as now you're falling forward faster than the curvature of the Earth, destined to circle the globe until you slow down and re intercept the horizon. Somehow, the planet you're orbiting seems a fair bit smaller, and when you look up, you no longer see a flat image of the sky, but now a three dimensional landscape.

When you write your first program, and a "hello world" appears on your terminal, it's not unlike lifting off on a spaceship. Underneath your simple control panel inputs, complex machines and generations of engineering are backing up your intention.

A common first realization when learning programming is understanding variables. Even an astronaut had to learn that the Earth was round. Learning that you can store numbers and words (represented as a collection of numbers) somewhere on the computer is necessary to understand how to do math on those numbers. Knowing just how to print and store variables, and how to do basic arithmetic on them is enough to make a calculator program.

When programming on any particularly interesting problem, it's like watching the horizon fall out from under you. Often times, your thoughts can escape constraints of language, and images and formulas start becoming the framework of your thoughts. Shortly after, algorithms start popping up everywhere in your sight.
How a bee decides which flower to gather nectar from.
How a tree grows and branches, and when it decides to make a leaf instead of another branch.
Where water runs runs into valleys when it falls on top of a hill or mountain.

A computer can be used to model almost any natural event. A good enough model can be used to predict outcomes for complicated interactions. A clever programmer can come up with a way to combine their own models with those of the generations of scientists before them, creating complex systems with simple enough interfaces.

This is the final lesson that programming teaches you. Once you've made it past orbit, and are now looking beyond the horizon to the stars, it's like experiencing a different world. One with endless depths to explore, but a simple interface to get you there.

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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Kaeru
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Sweden552 Posts
January 16 2014 01:12 GMT
#2
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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
January 16 2014 01:18 GMT
#3
I tried many times, but I always end up just hating it, which is unfortunate because knowing it would be very helpful in the field of work I want to go into.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
January 16 2014 03:27 GMT
#4
I'm taking an introduction to computer science course this semester as part of my first experience with programming.

It's so cool! We're learning C++ in this class and have just gone over storing and defining variables. Basically, all we've gone over so far was cout, cin, and variables along with some basic syntax. I mean, it's fun so far because I've always been a little interested in programming. I hope it stays that way as I get into harder subjects and actually learning to code things (like the professor said we'd be programming simple games over the semester like tic-tac-toe and bingo etc).
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
January 16 2014 03:52 GMT
#5
matlab is as near as I ever came to programming,I don't think I have the will or time to dive into it right now
Cackle™
Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
January 16 2014 06:28 GMT
#6
Programming is the worst when you're debugging for 8 hours but then when u find that stupid fucking bug and your program compiles and runs correctly it's the best feeling besides orgasm
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
January 16 2014 07:22 GMT
#7
Unless the bug was a small typo and then you feel like shed
☺
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 16 2014 08:39 GMT
#8
I find programming can be immensly rewarding and fun, but also terribly boring and frustrating, depending on what you're doing.

Working with code and frameworks your comfortable with, creating something new, is massive fun. Debugging and updating legacy applications you're not too comfortable with can be terrible though. Debugging for hours looking for problems and then it turns out that the problem is actually with the framework, is some of the worst things you can do. (A personal example was when I was trying to call a java web service from .net, getting ridiculous errors from super simple code, only to eventually find out that .NET and Java disagrees on the HTTP 1.1 interface, frustrated me massively.)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 16 2014 11:27 GMT
#9
Don't listen to him. There aren't many girls in our programs. And you don't get any sleep :p
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
January 16 2014 19:40 GMT
#10
On January 16 2014 15:28 cam connor wrote:
Programming is the worst when you're debugging for 8 hours but then when u find that stupid fucking bug and your program compiles and runs correctly it's the best feeling besides orgasm

this happened to me today. i tried to fix a bug for 5 hours, i changed one fucking line from the code i started with and it worked.
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Soan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
New Zealand194 Posts
January 16 2014 19:49 GMT
#11
This seems relevant!

SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
January 16 2014 20:26 GMT
#12
You can have all the mental satisfaction you describe when drawing, making music, playing chess, writing or having any artistic experience there is.

Unlike programming, they don't make every vagina in the room shrivel up, also
unlike programming, they don't tend to make you a millionaire, though.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
January 16 2014 21:07 GMT
#13
I've always wanted to learn Python as my starting language, but never had time to try.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
January 17 2014 00:41 GMT
#14
I'm a finishing carpenter, and most of what I do these days is problem solving, and I LOVE problem solving.

Coding, to me, feels like problem solving, except I'm not allowed to solve the problem directly, I have to command my Russian friend to do it. In his native tongue. Which I don't speak.

At least when you're learning to draw you don't have a full understanding of how bad you actually are. Partly in thanks to things not constantly spouting SYNTAX ERROR ON LINE 86 at you.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
midnight999
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States257 Posts
January 17 2014 02:54 GMT
#15
On January 17 2014 06:07 Hesmyrr wrote:
I've always wanted to learn Python as my starting language, but never had time to try.


Python is your friend.
turtles
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-18 04:17:18
January 18 2014 04:16 GMT
#16
Coding, to me, feels like problem solving, except I'm not allowed to solve the problem directly, I have to command my Russian friend to do it. In his native tongue. Which I don't speak.


A very apt description and well put. Although as someone who just got an electric drill for christmas and wants to try my hand at some amature carpentry I image there will be a whole world of terms that seem like gibberish to me.

Once you speak to your Russian friend enough you will slowly learn a bit more Russian, although the first words you learn to speak may or may not be swear words.

I think learning from the ground up is really the way to go. In highschool I learned VB but it wasn't till later that I touched on C and especially assembly languages like ARM and mips that I really had any clue what I was doing. This is not in fashion however (There are some good reasons though) and you get people like Epishade up there starting off with C++. To me that just seems like reading a book on how to speak Russian by opening it up halfway through and expecting to pick it up from there.
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