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Hey guys,
this is a personal blog about eating habits, so it should be rather tedious to read for most people.
That being said, I'm currently planning on doing eight weeks of pure Paleo, just to see how it makes me feel.
Here's a list of 'raw' food I think I'm allowed to eat:
- nuts (no peanuts, no cashews or other legumes)
- chicken
- fruit
- vegetables
- water
- sweet potatoes (good luck finding those in Germany, btw.)
- eggs
- fish
What I understand not to be in keeping with Paleo:
- grains
- potatoes
- cows and pigs
- noodles
- rice
- dairy
- candy, chocolate, sugar in general
What I'm not clear on is alcohol. Obviously our ancestors didn't have it, but is it inherently anti Paleo?
My alcohol consumption is pretty moderate. I only drink about a bottle of Baileys a week in my morning coffee, two or three bottles of red wine and perhaps a pint of whisky, sometimes only half a pint. Do you think that's alright in keeping with Paleo?
Then there's working out.
How do you get enough protein to go to the gym regularly when doing Paleo?
I know that I usually feel the need to stuff my tummy with tons of pasta the day after.
That's it for now, but I'm sure I'll get back to you once more questions pop up.
 
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I'm not really familiar with Paleo, but getting enough protein to work out shouldn't be any problem, since it appears to be very somewhat close to a low carb diet, which naturally has quite a bunch of protein in it. If you eat a lot of chicken, egg, fish you should have no trouble with protein.
How do you get enough protein to go to the gym regularly when doing Paleo?
I know that I usually feel the need to stuff my tummy with tons of pasta the day after.
Pasta doesn't really have that much protein, but mostly carbs. Did you mean carbs? In that case I think potatoes, as you listed, should help you out with those. Although I don't understand why potatoes or sweet potatoes are part of Paleo? I always thought our ancestors didn't have them until they got eventually imported from America? Sounds interesting.
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I don't know why you wouldn't eat potatoes/cows/pigs/dairy?
The idea is to avoid food that the human body can't digest that well without it being heavily processed like grains and such generally don't have much nutritional content but they are easily mass produced (leading to agrarians taking over because having 10 poorly nourished dudes still beats 1 buff dude)
We evolved to eat cooked food and to digest dairy
you can technically live off milk and potatoes only so that's one example of how op they are.
if you're going to have alcohol you should avoid beer and grain based brews maybe you can drink cider and whiskey or something
also nuts/potatoes/dairy are all very calorie dense so it makes it a bit easier to stick to the diet without being hungry because fruit/veg is pretty low on calories and most people don't want to buy tons of meat
I like your description of 4 bottles and a pint of whiskey a week being moderate drinking
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Hyrule19077 Posts
You're allowed beef and pork, not sure where you're getting that part from. And dark chocolate is acceptable in small amounts occasionally, and I suggest indulging at least once a week so you don't go insane.
Anyway, alcohol is almost definitely not allowed...but most people tend to ignore it. Red wine in moderation is generally accepted. You should really only drink if it's a special occasion (birthday, anniversary, etc) though.
My alcohol consumption is pretty moderate. I only drink about a bottle of Baileys a week in my morning coffee, two or three bottles of red wine and perhaps a pint of whisky, sometimes only half a pint.
That isn't moderate. Moderate is 1 or 2 glasses of red wine per week, or maybe a beer with dinner. Not a shot or 3 at every meal.
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Beef and pork?
I thought you were only allowed to eat birds and fish and no domesticated animals.
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dunno whats the difference between hunting a buffalo or wild boar or eating a cow/pig like the diet should state you should have to hunt and kill your own food but lets be reasonable here
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On January 14 2014 23:37 SixStrings wrote:
Beef and pork?
I thought you were only allowed to eat birds and fish and no domesticated animals.
I think if you'd eat deer or wild boar (which is awesome as you probably know!) it would fit in with Paleo. And from there nutrition wise I don't think it's a big difference to beef or pork, but that's just a guess of mine.
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The evidence is mounting in this thread alone: Paleo is a ridiculous diet. If you want to hit the gym you should simply have a "normal" balanced diet with 2 g of protein per 1 kg body weight and high overall calories. But sure, if you have digestive problems or something go ahead and try new shit out and see what works for you.
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I'm hitting the gym already. Hard. I go thrice a week, 2+2+4 hours. I have a very good BMI, still my body-composition is shitty.
'Normal' diet doesn't do it for me anymore, I don't want to feel like a bloated piece of shit any longer.
So why wouldn't I try to pick one of the millions of diets out there?
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I'm not sure if I'd say Paleo is a bad thing to do. The whole ancestor/evolution aspect might seem a bit strange, but in the end you're still ditching a lot of shitty food and eat a bunch of good stuff in my opinion. An alternative might be keto. Paleo seems pretty close to that, no? Except for some foods.
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Hyrule19077 Posts
On January 14 2014 23:37 SixStrings wrote:
Beef and pork?
I thought you were only allowed to eat birds and fish and no domesticated animals.
Nononono paleo is about eating natural, not eating wild. There's a difference. And chickens and turkeys and the like are domesticated birds anyway. When you go buying meat, get organic meat, free range chickens, etc
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On January 15 2014 00:24 SixStrings wrote:
'Normal' diet doesn't do it for me anymore, I don't want to feel like a bloated piece of shit any longer.
So why wouldn't I try to pick one of the millions of diets out there?
Because a diet which says you can eat boar but not pig is just going to distract you from what you want to achieve instead of helping you.
Cutting back on sweets while drinking a bottle of Baileys, three bottles of red wine and a pint of whiskey every week is very backwards.
Coffee isn't paleo either, if you really need to know.
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In many cases, Paleo works out as an avoidance scheme, unless you want to eat like this indefinitely; you are going to have to eventually come back to normal food eating patterns and address your issues with them (alcohol seems like a big one). Those who have succeeded with Paleo in my experience are the sort who already have normal dieting down pat and are looking to do something more effective and intense for a short period. I'd suggest reconsidering.
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an important part of paleo diet i think to feel the full positive effect is to follow it 100% especially for gluten and diary.
It's pretty much an all or nothing sort of deal, no glutine at all, not even a crumb of bread when you're craving it.
It's like you are either pregnant 100% or not pregnant at all, you can't be 99% pregnant.
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Keto is so psychologically draining, you have to be hella motivated. I would always throw in some friendly potatoes :D.
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On January 15 2014 00:35 Darkwhite wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 00:24 SixStrings wrote:
'Normal' diet doesn't do it for me anymore, I don't want to feel like a bloated piece of shit any longer.
So why wouldn't I try to pick one of the millions of diets out there? Because a diet which says you can eat boar but not pig is just going to distract you from what you want to achieve instead of helping you. Cutting back on sweets while drinking a bottle of Baileys, three bottles of red wine and a pint of whiskey every week is very backwards. Coffee isn't paleo either, if you really need to know.
how is it backward? cutting back on sweet stuff is generally a good idea, cutting back on grain is generally a good idea, cutting back on alcohol is a good idea too but its better than nothing if you dont
i said you can eat boar but not pig as a joke, i think the origin of the diet isn;t important and just eating good food is
like i think keto involves not eating any fat? fat is pretty healthy actually as far as i know just in moderation (and not "saturated" fats right?)
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Why would you want to have a paleo diet? You could also think for yourself and simply eat healthy food. There's nothing wrong with grains, legumes, nuts, seeds, as long as you maintain a healthy balance of all your food.
On the topic of working out, you don't actually need additional protein to gain muscles, unless you are a monomaniacal about fitness and want the quickest gains possible. Any normal diet of around 40 to 50 (maybe 60) grams of protein per day should suffice for fitness. Personally I'd prefer being healthy and having a cheaper diet over slightly quicker muscle growth.
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On January 15 2014 01:13 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 00:35 Darkwhite wrote:On January 15 2014 00:24 SixStrings wrote:
'Normal' diet doesn't do it for me anymore, I don't want to feel like a bloated piece of shit any longer.
So why wouldn't I try to pick one of the millions of diets out there? Because a diet which says you can eat boar but not pig is just going to distract you from what you want to achieve instead of helping you. Cutting back on sweets while drinking a bottle of Baileys, three bottles of red wine and a pint of whiskey every week is very backwards. Coffee isn't paleo either, if you really need to know. how is it backward? cutting back on sweet stuff is generally a good idea, cutting back on grain is generally a good idea, cutting back on alcohol is a good idea too but its better than nothing if you dont i said you can eat boar but not pig as a joke, i think the origin of the diet isn;t important and just eating good food is like i think keto involves not eating any fat? fat is pretty healthy actually as far as i know just in moderation (and not "saturated" fats right?)
Keto actually involves a lot of fat, but ditches almost all the carbs. You can eat fried bacon if you wish, but you can't eat bread with it, for example.
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On January 15 2014 01:13 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 00:35 Darkwhite wrote:On January 15 2014 00:24 SixStrings wrote:
'Normal' diet doesn't do it for me anymore, I don't want to feel like a bloated piece of shit any longer.
So why wouldn't I try to pick one of the millions of diets out there? Because a diet which says you can eat boar but not pig is just going to distract you from what you want to achieve instead of helping you. Cutting back on sweets while drinking a bottle of Baileys, three bottles of red wine and a pint of whiskey every week is very backwards. Coffee isn't paleo either, if you really need to know. how is it backward? cutting back on sweet stuff is generally a good idea, cutting back on grain is generally a good idea, cutting back on alcohol is a good idea too but its better than nothing if you dont i said you can eat boar but not pig as a joke, i think the origin of the diet isn;t important and just eating good food is like i think keto involves not eating any fat? fat is pretty healthy actually as far as i know just in moderation (and not "saturated" fats right?)
Keto involves eating no carbohydrates and lots of fat and protein.
It is backwards because it takes focus away from what's important - avoiding tobacco and alcohol, calorie total, regular meals, hydration, regular and sufficient sleep, food allergies - and obsesses over irrelevant minutiae such as what sorts of nuts are yes-foods and no-foods.
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Afaik you're allowed to eat cows and pigs... I've been, my girlfriend has been, and her brother has been... and we've been doing Paleo on and off for like 2 years now.
We allow for the occasional alcoholic beverage while on Paleo, which I think is technically cheating but we're okay with that small cheat  We prefer wine over other alcoholic beverages when on Paleo.
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