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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 17 2013 14:21 GMT
#41
On December 17 2013 19:28 Hryul wrote:
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On December 17 2013 02:08 Djzapz wrote:
Today, I saw a security guard expelling a homeless guy from the metro tunnels and it's -20C/-4F outside.

I know it sucks but honestly that's the guy's job. If you want to stop stuff like this you have to change the policy and allow homeless people in metro tunnels generally.

I'm not blaming the security guard, I'm just pointing out that we have a systemic problem where we do awful shit and hold awful opinions due to norms and rules. In come cases it's a professional obligation like in this case, but sometimes it's just the fact that we generally think of homeless people as subhumans or whatever.

It's a shame that people have this whole "not my problem" outlook but I guess I understand. I just wish people didn't denigrate those of us who choose to make it their problem and choose to try to make a difference.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
December 17 2013 16:43 GMT
#42
Well but it is no awful rule that the subway is there for transportation and not for giving people shelter when it's cold. The Austrian railway company (ÖBB) justified their expelling of homeless people from empty wagons with vandalism/damaged property. So if they didn't lie, it's not all evil company vs. poor vagabond.

On the other hand I'm biased through my middle european pov. Here nobody is forced to life on the street.* Instead they choose to live there. I don't know the situation in canada, but we had abuse of goodwill as described earlier.

Also trying to make a difference is nice and dandy but it's all about what you do. Giving a homeless guy 20 bucks just helps him for 2 days(?). might help him, but it's no long term solution.

*You get at least a warm flat and a bit of money for food provided by "society".
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Djzapz
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Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 17:59:32
December 17 2013 17:36 GMT
#43
On December 18 2013 01:43 Hryul wrote:
Well but it is no awful rule that the subway is there for transportation and not for giving people shelter when it's cold.

No but in the absence of obvious alternatives for those people, they're kicked out in the cold. I'm not saying the metro should be there for all the homeless people, but the fact that we have to kick people out on the street at such low temperatures.

At -20C in Quebec, the air is so cold and humid that it can sting and hurt.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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