Why trusting people in this business sucks - Page 7

On December 04 2013 10:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
heres my 2cents from someone whos been in close touch with the scene for a very long time.
firstly i think its pretty obvious that it was a mistake to come to korea based on a promise by one individual. especially since that individual isnt the one who has the power to take care of you with things such as food, expenses etc.
no one could have seen this dick move coming, but you should have been more cautious anyway, seeing as how volatile the korean scene is atm.
secondly, and this goes for pretty much 90 percent of people watching korean dota, you shouldnt have underestimated korean players. people watch korean pro games which are still in its infancy and compare it to games displayed by navi vs alliance or something and dismiss the korean scene entirely. no shit koreas going to be worse, however that doesnt mean korean players are all shit at dota, they just lack experience. i know from personal experience that a good number of korean players are easily capable of playing with other pros in less competitive settings. this i think was your biggest problem, you flew into korea and from what i can tell it seems like you considered your team to be favourites prior to demons arrival. you were not favourites. and no offense, despite what some people are saying in this thread also, you werent going to be an automatic star player. i heard somewhere that you had promised 15kills or something in your first game. regardless of whether it was a joke, it comes off as cocky and naive. had you come fully prepared to for the worst, maybe your team wouldnt be taking the loss this badly. obviously it wouldnt change the current situation, but the way your team approached the situation may be different. or maybe if you werent underestimating the korean scene so much, regardless of what febby might have said to convince you to come, you may have chose to not come at all.

On December 04 2013 10:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
heres my 2cents from someone whos been in close touch with the scene for a very long time.
firstly i think its pretty obvious that it was a mistake to come to korea based on a promise by one individual. especially since that individual isnt the one who has the power to take care of you with things such as food, expenses etc.
no one could have seen this dick move coming, but you should have been more cautious anyway, seeing as how volatile the korean scene is atm.
secondly, and this goes for pretty much 90 percent of people watching korean dota, you shouldnt have underestimated korean players. people watch korean pro games which are still in its infancy and compare it to games displayed by navi vs alliance or something and dismiss the korean scene entirely. no shit koreas going to be worse, however that doesnt mean korean players are all shit at dota, they just lack experience. i know from personal experience that a good number of korean players are easily capable of playing with other pros in less competitive settings. this i think was your biggest problem, you flew into korea and from what i can tell it seems like you considered your team to be favourites prior to demons arrival. you were not favourites. and no offense, despite what some people are saying in this thread also, you werent going to be an automatic star player. i heard somewhere that you had promised 15kills or something in your first game. regardless of whether it was a joke, it comes off as cocky and naive. had you come fully prepared to for the worst, maybe your team wouldnt be taking the loss this badly. obviously it wouldnt change the current situation, but the way your team approached the situation may be different. or maybe if you werent underestimating the korean scene so much, regardless of what febby might have said to convince you to come, you may have chose to not come at all.

On December 04 2013 14:22 Blitz wrote:

You're so stupid that reading this made me more physically ill then Febby actually leaving. I came to the scene because I thought it would be a fun experience and it was the only team offer I had. I assumed we would be favorites because fOu got second only to Startale and hadn't dropped a game in NSL up until the finals. I never said I was going to be an automatic star player, and by the way the only we reason we had last that game was due to DeMoN. Not the Korean scene, DeMoN. I didn't 'underestimate' the Korean scene, I was well aware of where it was skill wise you fuckwit. I even made a tweet saying the individual skill was quite high but the teamwork aspect was lacking. As far as 'how volatile the korean scene is' I wasn't aware of that part considering I wasn't told that there was any issues in the first place with the team. Last night Febby telling me he had issues was the first I had ever known that he had issues at all. The only person not showing proper respect here is you o.o