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Blitz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States706 Posts
December 04 2013 05:33 GMT
#121
ill prolly keep playing the quit option wasnt really mine i just asked tenbird for advice and he said those were my three most probable routes. I like the people and stuff I'm just in shock that I'm left with the responsibility of a team just moments after we lost lol
[13:42:40] <13@mTw|syndereN|jD> Upvotes? ^_>
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
December 04 2013 05:35 GMT
#122
responsibility is also opportunity!
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 05:56:49
December 04 2013 05:55 GMT
#123
On December 04 2013 14:22 Blitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 10:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
heres my 2cents from someone whos been in close touch with the scene for a very long time.
firstly i think its pretty obvious that it was a mistake to come to korea based on a promise by one individual. especially since that individual isnt the one who has the power to take care of you with things such as food, expenses etc.
no one could have seen this dick move coming, but you should have been more cautious anyway, seeing as how volatile the korean scene is atm.
secondly, and this goes for pretty much 90 percent of people watching korean dota, you shouldnt have underestimated korean players. people watch korean pro games which are still in its infancy and compare it to games displayed by navi vs alliance or something and dismiss the korean scene entirely. no shit koreas going to be worse, however that doesnt mean korean players are all shit at dota, they just lack experience. i know from personal experience that a good number of korean players are easily capable of playing with other pros in less competitive settings. this i think was your biggest problem, you flew into korea and from what i can tell it seems like you considered your team to be favourites prior to demons arrival. you were not favourites. and no offense, despite what some people are saying in this thread also, you werent going to be an automatic star player. i heard somewhere that you had promised 15kills or something in your first game. regardless of whether it was a joke, it comes off as cocky and naive. had you come fully prepared to for the worst, maybe your team wouldnt be taking the loss this badly. obviously it wouldnt change the current situation, but the way your team approached the situation may be different. or maybe if you werent underestimating the korean scene so much, regardless of what febby might have said to convince you to come, you may have chose to not come at all.

You're so stupid that reading this made me more physically ill then Febby actually leaving. I came to the scene because I thought it would be a fun experience and it was the only team offer I had. I assumed we would be favorites because fOu got second only to Startale and hadn't dropped a game in NSL up until the finals. I never said I was going to be an automatic star player, and by the way the only we reason we had last that game was due to DeMoN. Not the Korean scene, DeMoN. I didn't 'underestimate' the Korean scene, I was well aware of where it was skill wise you fuckwit. I even made a tweet saying the individual skill was quite high but the teamwork aspect was lacking. As far as 'how volatile the korean scene is' I wasn't aware of that part considering I wasn't told that there was any issues in the first place with the team. Last night Febby telling me he had issues was the first I had ever known that he had issues at all. The only person not showing proper respect here is you o.o


You should know to ignore the trolls.

3/4 of the posts are telling you to stick with the team, of the remaining most of them are telling you to make your own choice but still keep competing in korea, stop replying to the 5% of posts which are trolls.

I want to be honest this time, I'm really glad we got to hear what's being going on, but now is the time to grow a fucking pair and make a decision and stick with it.

You are acting like a kid, you don't need us to console you, you need to be mature and stand up for your team and you know it. You don't have your mummy and daddy to run to anymore, be prepared to put the weight of the team on your shoulders.

If you can do that, everyone will love you and support you to the best of their ability, if you can't, people will think you're a coward. To me the decision is obvious, this is a make or break moment for your career, its actually a great opportunity, to show everyone that you are one that can make a star team, not a team of stars.

After all these posts, the least you could do is write a post saying thankyou and man up and tell everyone that you are going to lead this team to victory (or maybe I missed it). To me and I'm sure most of the others, the decision is clear. You came all the way to korea to compete with fOu, the team is DEPENDING ON YOU, if you had any heart you wouldn't even consider leaving them behind because it would destroy those poor souls.

But I'm not you, and I'm not super tilted, and we don't completely understand your situation.

After being a coach for 5 years I've learned a lot, and trust me, at least you don't have to manage a team of rebellious teenagers who are only a few years younger and have psychotic parents. I lost my voice almost every week. Sorry for acting like a hater, your posts just really annoyed me for some reason, I know I'm a nobody to you.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
thebigdonkey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States354 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 05:56:48
December 04 2013 05:56 GMT
#124
Glad to see you edited out the line about paying people back. Don't even let that cross your mind. People didn't support you because they expected a return or even that they expected you to win it all. People supported you because they wanted you to have a chance to chase your dream because you seem like a genuine dude. Regardless of the tournament results, you're there, you played a match on a pro team. That's what the support was for.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
December 04 2013 06:04 GMT
#125
On December 04 2013 14:22 Blitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 10:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
heres my 2cents from someone whos been in close touch with the scene for a very long time.
firstly i think its pretty obvious that it was a mistake to come to korea based on a promise by one individual. especially since that individual isnt the one who has the power to take care of you with things such as food, expenses etc.
no one could have seen this dick move coming, but you should have been more cautious anyway, seeing as how volatile the korean scene is atm.
secondly, and this goes for pretty much 90 percent of people watching korean dota, you shouldnt have underestimated korean players. people watch korean pro games which are still in its infancy and compare it to games displayed by navi vs alliance or something and dismiss the korean scene entirely. no shit koreas going to be worse, however that doesnt mean korean players are all shit at dota, they just lack experience. i know from personal experience that a good number of korean players are easily capable of playing with other pros in less competitive settings. this i think was your biggest problem, you flew into korea and from what i can tell it seems like you considered your team to be favourites prior to demons arrival. you were not favourites. and no offense, despite what some people are saying in this thread also, you werent going to be an automatic star player. i heard somewhere that you had promised 15kills or something in your first game. regardless of whether it was a joke, it comes off as cocky and naive. had you come fully prepared to for the worst, maybe your team wouldnt be taking the loss this badly. obviously it wouldnt change the current situation, but the way your team approached the situation may be different. or maybe if you werent underestimating the korean scene so much, regardless of what febby might have said to convince you to come, you may have chose to not come at all.

You're so stupid that reading this made me more physically ill then Febby actually leaving. I came to the scene because I thought it would be a fun experience and it was the only team offer I had. I assumed we would be favorites because fOu got second only to Startale and hadn't dropped a game in NSL up until the finals. I never said I was going to be an automatic star player, and by the way the only we reason we had last that game was due to DeMoN. Not the Korean scene, DeMoN. I didn't 'underestimate' the Korean scene, I was well aware of where it was skill wise you fuckwit. I even made a tweet saying the individual skill was quite high but the teamwork aspect was lacking. As far as 'how volatile the korean scene is' I wasn't aware of that part considering I wasn't told that there was any issues in the first place with the team. Last night Febby telling me he had issues was the first I had ever known that he had issues at all. The only person not showing proper respect here is you o.o

for someone who claims to have come here to "have fun" you seem to be crying about your current position quite a bit. you obviously wanted more out of this experience than just to have fun otherwise you wouldnt have made a post on tl the morning after to whine about your predicament and earn some sympathy points from your fans. again, you making a joke (or maybe you were being serious) about how you were going to get 15 kills or whatever shows that you thought this tournament would be a cakewalk. demon isnt the sole reason you were knocked out so early, and tbh the amount of disrespect youre showing to the other players of team mvp phoenix is astounding. even without demon they were more likely to win than you. in case you havent noticed march left fou a while ago, meaning you werent playing for the same team that came 2nd in the first season of nsl. again, this was your mistake by not taking this seriously enough. also, from my sources febby has been in contact with other team members from a long time ago, so that he can find a new team after his apparent falling out with march. him not telling you this is bad luck on your part, and you have been victimised but again, lack of awareness/cautiousness has put you in your current situation. i wasnt trying to be disrespectful, but i couldnt just ignore this either. febby may be the dickhead in this scenario, but i didnt want people to only think febby was the cause for this mess. we havent heard his story and the sad truth is you could have avoided this all if you had got off your high horse and accepted the very real possibility that you would not win nsl2
ChEDo
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada310 Posts
December 04 2013 06:07 GMT
#126
Damn...

I hope everything works out for you and the team, Blitz. <3
Blitz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States706 Posts
December 04 2013 06:08 GMT
#127
On December 04 2013 15:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 14:22 Blitz wrote:
On December 04 2013 10:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
heres my 2cents from someone whos been in close touch with the scene for a very long time.
firstly i think its pretty obvious that it was a mistake to come to korea based on a promise by one individual. especially since that individual isnt the one who has the power to take care of you with things such as food, expenses etc.
no one could have seen this dick move coming, but you should have been more cautious anyway, seeing as how volatile the korean scene is atm.
secondly, and this goes for pretty much 90 percent of people watching korean dota, you shouldnt have underestimated korean players. people watch korean pro games which are still in its infancy and compare it to games displayed by navi vs alliance or something and dismiss the korean scene entirely. no shit koreas going to be worse, however that doesnt mean korean players are all shit at dota, they just lack experience. i know from personal experience that a good number of korean players are easily capable of playing with other pros in less competitive settings. this i think was your biggest problem, you flew into korea and from what i can tell it seems like you considered your team to be favourites prior to demons arrival. you were not favourites. and no offense, despite what some people are saying in this thread also, you werent going to be an automatic star player. i heard somewhere that you had promised 15kills or something in your first game. regardless of whether it was a joke, it comes off as cocky and naive. had you come fully prepared to for the worst, maybe your team wouldnt be taking the loss this badly. obviously it wouldnt change the current situation, but the way your team approached the situation may be different. or maybe if you werent underestimating the korean scene so much, regardless of what febby might have said to convince you to come, you may have chose to not come at all.

You're so stupid that reading this made me more physically ill then Febby actually leaving. I came to the scene because I thought it would be a fun experience and it was the only team offer I had. I assumed we would be favorites because fOu got second only to Startale and hadn't dropped a game in NSL up until the finals. I never said I was going to be an automatic star player, and by the way the only we reason we had last that game was due to DeMoN. Not the Korean scene, DeMoN. I didn't 'underestimate' the Korean scene, I was well aware of where it was skill wise you fuckwit. I even made a tweet saying the individual skill was quite high but the teamwork aspect was lacking. As far as 'how volatile the korean scene is' I wasn't aware of that part considering I wasn't told that there was any issues in the first place with the team. Last night Febby telling me he had issues was the first I had ever known that he had issues at all. The only person not showing proper respect here is you o.o

for someone who claims to have come here to "have fun" you seem to be crying about your current position quite a bit. you obviously wanted more out of this experience than just to have fun otherwise you wouldnt have made a post on tl the morning after to whine about your predicament and earn some sympathy points from your fans. again, you making a joke (or maybe you were being serious) about how you were going to get 15 kills or whatever shows that you thought this tournament would be a cakewalk. demon isnt the sole reason you were knocked out so early, and tbh the amount of disrespect youre showing to the other players of team mvp phoenix is astounding. even without demon they were more likely to win than you. in case you havent noticed march left fou a while ago, meaning you werent playing for the same team that came 2nd in the first season of nsl. again, this was your mistake by not taking this seriously enough. also, from my sources febby has been in contact with other team members from a long time ago, so that he can find a new team after his apparent falling out with march. him not telling you this is bad luck on your part, and you have been victimised but again, lack of awareness/cautiousness has put you in your current situation. i wasnt trying to be disrespectful, but i couldnt just ignore this either. febby may be the dickhead in this scenario, but i didnt want people to only think febby was the cause for this mess. we havent heard his story and the sad truth is you could have avoided this all if you had got off your high horse and accepted the very real possibility that you would not win nsl2

I DONT GIVE A FUCK THAT I LOST NSL 2. What part of that dont you understand. I fully accept that it was a risk. I'm upset that the guy who was my main point of contact left me w/o giving indication that anything was amiss. How could I have avoided it, Febby never hinted that anything was wrong and none of my teammates also had no idea that anything was amiss. How is it 'bad luck'.
[13:42:40] <13@mTw|syndereN|jD> Upvotes? ^_>
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
December 04 2013 06:34 GMT
#128
i never said you were only upset about losing nsl. my point is that you obviously came with expectations to win because you were sacrificing so much of your own time and money. if you had researched beforehand you would have known that your chances were slim and that would have affected your whole decision on moving to korea. as you said, febby having those thoughts for a while now only meant that he wasnt expecting to win in the first place. you could have figured this out for yourself if you were more aware. all im trying to make clear is that febby isnt the only one at fault here
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 04 2013 06:41 GMT
#129
trying so hard to cover for febby lol. Did you read the part where Blitz said there was no indication that something was wrong?
© Current year.
joker101
Profile Joined August 2012
United States47 Posts
December 04 2013 06:44 GMT
#130
Good luck Blitz.

Febby is your classic piece of shit.
sugarparfait
Profile Joined August 2013
United States9 Posts
December 04 2013 06:56 GMT
#131
I suggest picking up J-GOD he's a substitute for Full Tilt I'm sure he's looking for a good place to start anew
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 07:30:00
December 04 2013 06:58 GMT
#132
Everyone, welcome to the five stages of grief. We're currently on chapter two : Anger.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Blitz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States706 Posts
December 04 2013 07:01 GMT
#133
is denial and horniness coming up next
[13:42:40] <13@mTw|syndereN|jD> Upvotes? ^_>
sugarparfait
Profile Joined August 2013
United States9 Posts
December 04 2013 07:02 GMT
#134
At least you have a hotter girlfriend than febby which is nice
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
December 04 2013 07:09 GMT
#135
The only real team I knew you playing in was root. and that was even a t2/3 team in the NA scene. Not sure why this comes as a big suprise. Just have fun in Korea and try to actually build something.
jungsosh
Profile Joined June 2011
1 Post
December 04 2013 07:12 GMT
#136
Blitz! Stay strong man, I've always loved watching your stream and I hope you can work everything out. If you need someone to take you out to dinner in Seoul, send me a PM, no joke.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
December 04 2013 07:22 GMT
#137
Just ignore the.. silly Blitz. And keep the faith, it's a shitty situation but you and the team are only going to come out stronger. fOu fighting!
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
December 04 2013 07:30 GMT
#138
On December 04 2013 16:01 Blitz wrote:
is denial and horniness coming up next


Iunno! They're your five stages, you tell me.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Blitz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States706 Posts
December 04 2013 07:33 GMT
#139
think its time to do my own thing and bring waifu over and make LSD in korea
[13:42:40] <13@mTw|syndereN|jD> Upvotes? ^_>
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
December 04 2013 07:38 GMT
#140
You kept mentioning "team offer" etc. But have you considered that none of the team offers you a spot because of your skill? Also if you want to find a team, #hardwork #dedication etc, you can't just lazily wait for an offer (same goes for applying for jobs, everyone knows this if you have ever tried to find jobs)
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