• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:52
CEST 21:52
KST 04:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call7[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!22Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week2Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 BW General Discussion Looking 4 Yaroslav: Enemy, Korchagin, WCG, Ukraine Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group E Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro24 Group D [ASL22] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3494 users

Patent Trolls: Would this work?

Blogs > Umpteen
Post a Reply
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
November 19 2013 14:24 GMT
#1
Patent trolls make most of their money in out-of-court settlements. Increasingly, they are targeting smaller businesses, relying on the enormous expense of court arbitration to persuade their victims to cough up without a fight.

So how about this for an idea:

First, make it a legal requirement for all licensing demands related to a particular patent to be recorded at the patent office.

Second, make it a legal requirement for all out-of-court settlements of such demands to be similarly recorded.

Third, enact a law such that, in the event of a patent being struck down in court, all prior out-of-court settlements (or a percentage thereof) must be repaid. Only claims upon which a court has ruled are exempt.

This creates a framework whereby victims of patent trolling may effectively place a bounty on the head of the troll by committing to pay any 'white knight' willing to challenge the patent in court some fraction of the reimbursed fees, should the patent be struck down.

Fourthly, anyone wishing to assert a patent in court must be able to underwrite the outstanding 'settlement balance' hanging over the patent.

This creates an ecosystem for 'Patent Troll Hunters': law firms who scour the patent register for bad patents that have large outstanding settlement balances. Victims of patent trolling would then be able to engage their services on a 'no win, no fee' basis.

Crazy? Idiotic? Awesome? Non-legal minds want to know...


The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
November 19 2013 16:15 GMT
#2
I'm no lawyer and I'm not even sure that I understand, but to me it just seems like this would be extremely heavy to carry for the public bureaucracy which is already quite fucked up because none of those clowns know what they're doing. It could be functional but it would be heavy.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 19 2013 20:25 GMT
#3
It would be far easier and more effective to reform patents so that they were used in accordance with their original intent, with more scrutiny and the possibility of getting a definitive "NO" answer without the possibility of appeal.

(A patent application, in the US, can be denied. However, that denial can be appealed. Endlessly. Over and over and over again. And the patent itself can be amended to add more claims. If you keep slamming it against tired, overworked, generally frustrated patent officers, eventually one of them will crack.)
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
November 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#4
Here's a better idea. Let's just have judges that actually make a decision and throw these fucks out of court and tell them to fuck off with their trolling.
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 22:10:32
November 21 2013 22:09 GMT
#5
On November 21 2013 15:22 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Here's a better idea. Let's just have judges that actually make a decision and throw these fucks out of court and tell them to fuck off with their trolling.


That's just the point, though: it costs 1-5 MILLION dollars to take the fight to court in the first place. So do you pay that, or the 100,000 the troll is demanding?
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 8m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech65
MindelVK 34
CosmosSc2 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 129
Hyun 36
910 22
soO 15
League of Legends
Doublelift1257
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King79
PPMD36
Other Games
Grubby2501
Liquid`RaSZi2148
fl0m1312
ceh9526
B2W.Neo364
Liquid`Hasu243
C9.Mang0139
Livibee95
Trikslyr69
QueenE51
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV913
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 10
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 38
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV784
• masondota2556
League of Legends
• TFBlade1039
Other Games
• imaqtpie1557
• Shiphtur349
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 8m
Afreeca Starleague
14h 8m
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Patches Events
20h 8m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
The PondCast
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.