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Edit: for more appropriate OP
So recently I have been finding a library very useful in obtaining knowledge about past historical events by reading how they were documented and the global affect they had in relation to country-rest of world context.
What I haven't had any allure to though is to pick up a good fiction novel and read that. I used to read fiction books in the past, loved lotr series, star wars series, basically all the big series that didn't die out after a while and that could build upon previously read lore.
But now, I fail to grasp the intrinsic value of fiction books. So, why do you guys read fiction over non-fiction and what do you feel you get out of it that you might not get from reading the other category?
  
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i feel like if you are seeking "knowledge" and things that are "real" (without arguing that fiction offers this and more) then history is probably not the place you should be looking.
there was this thing where people found these ancient tablets or something and it was all this bird imagery and bird language so they came up with this really elaborate bird religion that the ancient people must have had, and people were really into this and all of that, then years later they found the rest of the tablets, and it turned out it was an ancient cookbook, detailing all the ways you can prepare birds (to eat).
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Yeah, except fiction books are real books and their contexts are the products of real thoughts someone had, which they then decided to write and make a book out of. So, while they might not impart any knowledge of the real world to the reader (some fiction books do undoubtedly contain some real information) they are the product of a real thought and the influence of real experiences upon the person who had the thought.
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On September 29 2013 01:53 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Yeah, except fiction books are real books and their contexts are the products of real thoughts someone had, which they then decided to write and make a book out of. So, while they might not impart any knowledge of the real world to the reader (some fiction books do undoubtedly contain some real information) they are the product of a real thought and the influence of real experiences upon the person who had the thought.
I guess then I am just not that interested in the real thoughts of an individual, but the assessment of a series of people and conclusions about that in a non-biased perspective kind of way
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Baa?21248 Posts
In non-fiction there are facts; in fiction there is truth.
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Good fiction will typically have much to teach and good advice -- indirectly given -- that when followed, leads to a more fulfilling life. Things like the dissolution of the USSR may be interesting and useful to an extent, but I have found more good in fiction than in non-fiction. Now, there's always books that are specifically written to change your perspective on things, and they are usually non-fiction. Sometimes they're about stories of a person's life and parallels with scientific research leading to a big conclusion that's groundbreaking for how people perceive things. Those are the kinds of books I like to read. Fiction has its place, just not all fiction imparts knowledge, and when it does, it's not in the way you would expect.
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On September 29 2013 02:20 Smurfett3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 01:53 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Yeah, except fiction books are real books and their contexts are the products of real thoughts someone had, which they then decided to write and make a book out of. So, while they might not impart any knowledge of the real world to the reader (some fiction books do undoubtedly contain some real information) they are the product of a real thought and the influence of real experiences upon the person who had the thought. I guess then I am just not that interested in the real thoughts of an individual, but the assessment of a series of people and conclusions about that in a non-biased perspective kind of way
Ahahahahah, good one, please call me me when you've found one book like that, please ?
And as Carnivorous Sheep and Lacan said, "Truth has the structure of a fiction".
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On September 29 2013 02:20 Smurfett3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 01:53 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Yeah, except fiction books are real books and their contexts are the products of real thoughts someone had, which they then decided to write and make a book out of. So, while they might not impart any knowledge of the real world to the reader (some fiction books do undoubtedly contain some real information) they are the product of a real thought and the influence of real experiences upon the person who had the thought. I guess then I am just not that interested in the real thoughts of an individual, but the assessment of a series of people and conclusions about that in a non-biased perspective kind of way
History is biased, cause you know the victors write history. But fair enough to not be interested in an individual's thoughts.
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On September 29 2013 02:24 Just_a_Moth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 02:20 Smurfett3 wrote:On September 29 2013 01:53 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Yeah, except fiction books are real books and their contexts are the products of real thoughts someone had, which they then decided to write and make a book out of. So, while they might not impart any knowledge of the real world to the reader (some fiction books do undoubtedly contain some real information) they are the product of a real thought and the influence of real experiences upon the person who had the thought. I guess then I am just not that interested in the real thoughts of an individual, but the assessment of a series of people and conclusions about that in a non-biased perspective kind of way History is biased, cause you know the victors write history. But fair enough to not be interested in an individual's thoughts.
In fact, that sounds incredibly dangerous.
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On September 29 2013 01:43 Smurfett3 wrote:
There's no knowledge you can obtain and it's, in all essences of the word, not real
Yeah? Well, you know that's just like uh, your opinion, man.
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On September 29 2013 03:11 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 01:43 Smurfett3 wrote:
There's no knowledge you can obtain and it's, in all essences of the word, not real Yeah? Well, you know that's just like uh, your opinion, man.
of course. And I'm stating my opinion to see what other people's opinions are so that I might adust my opinion to a broader point of view
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On September 29 2013 02:26 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 02:24 Just_a_Moth wrote:On September 29 2013 02:20 Smurfett3 wrote:On September 29 2013 01:53 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Yeah, except fiction books are real books and their contexts are the products of real thoughts someone had, which they then decided to write and make a book out of. So, while they might not impart any knowledge of the real world to the reader (some fiction books do undoubtedly contain some real information) they are the product of a real thought and the influence of real experiences upon the person who had the thought. I guess then I am just not that interested in the real thoughts of an individual, but the assessment of a series of people and conclusions about that in a non-biased perspective kind of way History is biased, cause you know the victors write history. But fair enough to not be interested in an individual's thoughts. In fact, that sounds incredibly dangerous.
Okay yeah now that I read that again, yeah it does. I guess more what I meant is to not be interested in another person's thoughts in the format of a fictitious book.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Try reading War and Peace - you'll get much more insight about the war and the society of those times than any history book will give you.
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Probably for the best. You don't sound like you're smart enough yet to start reading fiction. Could be dangerous.
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I actually like having fun, which is why I like fiction.
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On September 29 2013 03:39 Jerubaal wrote:
Probably for the best. You don't sound like you're smart enough yet to start reading fiction. Could be dangerous.
I just feel more drawn to read things about events that actually happened and a recap of what it was like to go through that period
On September 29 2013 03:57 Zergneedsfood wrote:
1/5 would not read again
edit no one's making you reading it again, but thanks. In fact, I am probably not gonna the OP again either, just the replies
edit: i lied! Changed OP for better context
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I hate to break it to you but videogames aren't real either. Why are you even posting on a starcraft website.
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