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MaximusT
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States126 Posts
September 16 2013 15:12 GMT
#1
Well, who knew it was already that time of year. I don't know about you, but the summer went waayyy too fast. I'm petitioning to have school start in November and run through March. But I don't think it will pass

It's been a long time since I've blogged, and even longer since I blogged about teaching. The first part can be found here and the second part can be found right here.

For the second time in two years, I find myself in my first year of teaching at a new school. I have a year of experience under my belt now, so I felt confident coming in that I would quickly create positive relationships with the staff and students, and not be a target of town gossip. Boy, I was wrong on a couple of those. So I'm taking time this morning (prep period) to jot down some ideas on why that happened. And it starts with...

Replacing the Legend

First, if you are considering being a teacher, try to avoid this position. It will make your life much better.

The teacher I replaced taught at this school for 29 years!!!!! I'm 24 years old. So since before I was born, this band director has been doing things her way. She's been marching them around and putting on concerts and whatever in her way.

I'M NOT HER!

Parents and students alike, if you know a teacher who is in this position, GIVE THEM A BREAK! Try to see that they are stepping into big shoes and are (probably) doing the best they can to fill them. If you want don't want that teacher to resign, here's some do's and do not's.

DO:

1. Give them time to hit their stride.

It's information overload when you step into a new school. We're trying to learn the names of fifty staff members, a couple hundred students, any parents that happen to stop in, get our curriculum set, get the room organized, get supplies ordered in....the list goes on and on. We really are trying. Be patient, please!

2. Introduce yourself! (and reintroduce yourself the next time you see them)

Regardless of what you might think, I actually do want to get to know the parents, for multiple reasons. But mainly because it gives me a chance to avoid parents getting wrong information from the student. Also, as I stated earlier, we probably won't remember your name the first couple times, so keep reintroducing yourself so we can get to know you!

DO NOT:

1. Take your student's word as 100% true. (Give the teacher the benefit of the doubt.)

Students never give their full attention and things are missed. Or the teacher will leave out certain information on purpose. Either way, please do not think that what the students are saying is absolutely true. Take it with a grain of salt. This is one thing that I'm struggling with right now. Parents, YOU KID WILL EXAGGERATE. HE/SHE WILL LEAVE OUT INFORMATION. Just because little Susie said it doesn't mean it is true.

2. Come bitching to the principal about this teacher (right away).

At least not in the first month. Like I said, give them time to hit their stride. If after 6 months you're still not happy, then I think you have right to come in and discuss it. In my third week of school this year, I was called in to the principal because a few community members voiced concerns. Now, I for one think that this was not good on my principal, that he should have deflected or absorbed the criticism without me knowing. What do you think happened then? My confidence was shaken. Just when I was starting to get some confidence, too. I suppose he thought he had to. I don't know. What I do know is that this never would have come up if a parent would have been patient and kept their mouth shut.

3. Ask other teachers "What you think of this person?"

This will only create problems. Either that teacher will lie and say good things, or they'll let it out. There are things I don't like about every single staff member, but it's not my job to be airing them out in the community. Most likely, this will create animosity between the staff.

4. Talk terribly about the teacher (personally) in front of your student.

You can criticize about the job I'm doing all you want. That's your right. But stay the hell out of my personal life. Don't say things like "I bet he's a fag" in front of your kid. That's right folks, I've heard that one. (For the record, I'm not gay.)

Notice how there were more Do Not's? These are all things that have happened to me in the past 5 weeks.

So what is your kid's new teacher thinking? He's thinking that he wants to quit. He's hoping things will get better, but doesn't really believe it. He thinking that the vocal minority might be strong enough to get him fired.

I really did want this school to work. I like the kids a lot. For the most part, I like the staff. But really, if it doesn't improve, it's not worth it. The pennies I get paid to sit here and take shit from all sides aren't worth it. I have other things I can do with my life. The man who came up with,"Those who can't do, teach" deserves a beating. I CAN do, that why I chose to educate your children so THEY can do too!

If this school year doesn't work out, I'm probably going to give up on the profession. That makes me horribly depressed because I do like my job, but I'd rather do something else that pays better and people give me a little respect for doing.

If you want the duds teaching our students (which I'm sure none of us do), we need to treat our teachers better. I knew I wasn't going to get paid very much, and I accepted that. I'm not holding out for universal popularity, but I would like to go to the football game without hearing about how I'm so much worse than my predecessor.

All I ask for is a little respect.

****
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 16 2013 15:29 GMT
#2
Good luck in dealing with all the frustrating parents. Must be just a nightmare.

Do you know any other staff members that might've gone through what you went through? Maybe their insights would be helpful.
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MaximusT
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States126 Posts
September 16 2013 15:38 GMT
#3
On September 17 2013 00:29 IntoTheheart wrote:
Good luck in dealing with all the frustrating parents. Must be just a nightmare.

Do you know any other staff members that might've gone through what you went through? Maybe their insights would be helpful.


Well, that's one of the bad things about this school. This is a school where people come to teach, and they stay for years or decades. Which is good! But no one that I've talked to can even remember what they did when they were the new guy. I just keep getting the same response. "Hang tough, they'll come around."

And if they don't? I'm finished.
I like the building position. Optimized to let the other player penetrate his anal crevice as easily as possible, it's good. - Destiny
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 16 2013 16:02 GMT
#4
If you don't mind me asking, what are the school's grade boundaries? K-12?

Because even if you don't win over this generation of students, you might be able to win the ones over from the following generations.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 16:46:51
September 16 2013 16:45 GMT
#5
Good blog. I like the parts 'Do not take your student's word as 100% true' and 'Do not talk terribly about the teacher (personally) in front of your student.'

Woman, let me tell you a thing or two about your student...

I'm glad to be teach a university class, I'm dealing with adults (legally speaking anyway). I handle problems with my students themselves. No biased proxy.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 16 2013 16:54 GMT
#6
Good blog. I have to agree with your points. I'm not a teacher but parents taking their kids' words at 100% correct would drive me insane as a teacher(if I was one). I also agree that new teachers should be cut some slack and given time to learn how things are done around the school. Forgetting the names of other teachers/students/parents is something that needs to be taken into account and sadly, it seems that most people expect you to remember them from the first time. If it's any consolation to you OP, I've had people forgot my name a lot and I don't really mind lol. Only exception is if I've talked to you like 20 times or something then you better remember it XD
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
September 16 2013 17:15 GMT
#7
Despite bringing to light some real problems newer teachers face, the scary part is this barely represents the tip of the iceberg. You need to be able to put up with a lot of shit from all directions in order to stick it out in the job. Of course, every teacher's experience is somewhat different.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 05:06:13
September 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#8
I surprisingly haven't ran into many problems myself outside of the fact that it takes me a ridiculous amount of prep time if I intend to make the class interesting for my students. I don't think I would have it in me to deal with children and parents. I would just die ;(
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
September 16 2013 18:12 GMT
#9
My parents were both teachers. I remember my Dad telling me "the kids were great, but the parents on the other hand..." I bet the kids have gotten a lot worse though since those days. You gotta have some balls to go into teaching. Respect to you, it's and important job.
gmarshall
Profile Joined June 2013
United States11 Posts
September 16 2013 18:13 GMT
#10
You make a lot of strong points. I'd say make sure to take your own advice and weather the storm. Ignore/manage/minimize that vocal minority and focus on developing the parts of the job that you like and enjoy. If six months from now you still feel similarly, you can reconsider. It sounds like you have great potential as an educator, don't let some criticism and lack of support from administration stop you from succeeding or giving it a great shot.
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
September 17 2013 03:46 GMT
#11
As I high school student, I can understand a lot of what you are saying very clearly. It makes me feel bad when I am critical, and I hope it's consolation to you that I will try and consider this blog before I talk shit about another teacher. I think you can agree that some probably do deserve it, but they probably don't deserve it the way it is delivered, so you are still right. I think though, that maybe, if you aren't loving teaching even through all of this, it might not be for you anyway. I'm not sure if I can say that though, 8 years younger than you and still in high school, but I do genuinely wish you the best of luck and the least of shit this year and every year after that. Just maybe try to remember what you were like in high school. You understand that we are inconsiderate and shallow and immature and stupid, so you wrote this blog to maybe bring to light some of that. But unfortunately, this blog won't reach all ends of the earth and probably 99.9% of your students will remain inconsiderate, shallow, etc. So I'm sorry it is that way, and I wish you the best, but try and remember that you are making a statement based on the maturity and experience you have gained that no other high schoolers should be expected to have, nor should they be expected to have read your blog.
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