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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 18:53:52
September 01 2013 18:50 GMT
#1

Shaking Hands







As a younger man, I moved around between games like BW and CS, never settling down anywhere and getting seriously good. I never was serious until a few years ago, when I spent a few years playing Starcraft 2 somewhat competitively. I was in Master League, I watched GSL, I tested out new strategies, I even found meaning on the ladder. Starcraft 2 was a game I could really sink my teeth into. I enjoyed the 1v1 nature of the game, the competitive thrill of battling an opponent without any teammates or randomness to mask the truth of who is better. Along the way I developed a philosophy of starcraft, and maybe gaming in general. I don't know if I was right or I was wrong-- but I was having fun. It was a good time, perhaps the best of times for me, gaming wise.

Eventually, though, I became busy, the game changed, and HotS came out despite what I thought were fatal flaws. Although I bought HotS, I never got seriously involved in it, and didn't even finish the campaign. In a way, the Sc2 chapter of my life had come to a close. I got a Dota 2 beta key, played more Mafia on TL, and got more involved in my Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup playing. I might almost be forgiven for switching to such games. DCSS is best in slot for roguelikes, Mafia is a fun battle of wits on a different dimension than Sc2, and even Dota 2 is considered a highly competitive esport, in its own way perhaps a better successor to the term than Sc2 could be. I even wrote more about my philosophy of gaming.

Things might have gone on like this for some time-- I might have lived in blissful ignorance-- had I not, on a whim, patched my Sc2 and played a ladder game. In a way, part of why I had stopped playing Sc2 and hadn't played in a while was that, now that I'm worse than I used to be, it would be embarrassing to play at my MMR and be up against dudes who would stomp me. Now, a year later and in a new game, this is no longer the case. I have no more rank to live up to. I'm free to win or lose as I want. I play a game, and it was tough.

I hit Find Match, hear the stock noise of fwooshing air, and realize I've forgotten what it means to be an Sc2 player. My opponent (in Plat League, I find out later) is Protoss. When I scout him, I'm sure what I am looking for. I see two gases, most of his chronoboost spent, and no expansion. Although I am rusty as heck, a small part of me, an old and out-of-practice corner of my brain, knows: He is spending his chrono on probes because he's doing a tech strat that doesn't need it. He's making DTs. Make a turret, you fool! I make one. And when his DTs come, although my turret is shittily placed, I lose mining time, not scvs. The feeling of having read an opponent and out-playing him is exhilarating. I can feel my heart pounding in my chest. I don't see the room I'm in any more-- I can only see the screen. There is nothing left but me and the game. I can do this. I can win. When my banshees fly into his base, I am surprised to find a fleet of void rays just sort of hanging out. He types into all chat, like the punk he is, "wrong decision" as I retreat my units. As he advances his slow-moving air army across the map, I know I don't have much time to prepare a defense.

The battle is long and hard, and in time I turn the tides on on him. I build anti-air units, out-expand him, and eventually push him back down onto 2 bases. It's slow, it's brutal, and in the final battle his high-tech units are no match for my multiple waves of reinforcements. I open up chat to type "right decision" but he silently leaves the game before I can send the message.

I take off my headset and click the Score Screen button. I can still feel my heart pounding, there's still adrenaline in my bloodstream. I look down at my hands. They're shaking. Not with fear, but excitement. Euphoria. I win.

I can't go back to playing lots of Dota any more. It feels so empty, so meaningless now. Like a facsimile of a game, a simulation of the real thing. In Sc2 it's just you and the other guy, and one of you as to be better, faster, smarter, and that's the only thing that matters. It's just you, him, and your respective skills. In Dota 2 whether you win or you lose is only in part your fault. I've played like shit and won, and played well and lost. It never feels GREAT to win, just OK. No matter how big your plays are, they don't set the heart racing, don't dry out your mouth like a real sc2 play can. I'll never be inspired to play better by a Dota 2 loss-- motivated, sure. Intellectually aware, sure. But inspiration will never come to me. I'll never feel my heart pumping a million miles an hour in my chest. I'll never finish a game and find my hands shaking.

I've tasted Sc2 again. I've finished a game with hands shaking, and I know I'll never get that from Dota. Maybe that's okay. I'm not sure I want to go back to Sc2-- but I won't forget what it feels like, this time.

****
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
September 01 2013 19:01 GMT
#2
You just wrote my story there. And in the way I'd like to write it too, as reading it brought me the very same feelings that I had after my first sc2 game after a long dota 2 period. Beautiful.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
September 01 2013 19:15 GMT
#3
It doesn't feel the same to you because you're an sc2 fan, not a dota2 fan.
For me, it's exactly the opposite. I've had plenty of games that I had to take a pause after because they just blew my mind, or body.
No sc2 tournament ever gave me the feeling I had watching and rewatching "The Play" for the tenth time and I'm sure that none ever will.

Religion: Buckethead
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
September 01 2013 19:33 GMT
#4
It's not about watching sc2 for me. I find watching sc2 and dota2 to be similar in terms of funness.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 01 2013 19:57 GMT
#5
Well, this is me every 3 months lol.

I'm start to get kind of rusty, stop laddering regularly, focus on other things in life...then I realize how awesome SC2 is and play like 30 games a day for a week lol.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44097 Posts
September 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#6
Glad to hear you feel the rush from StarCraft 2 I get the same way after a big win in SC2.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
September 01 2013 20:38 GMT
#7
great blog
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 01 2013 20:51 GMT
#8
feels amazing to win a game like that

but it also feels terrible to lose a game like that, and thats why i feel it will never be as popular. when you lose you only have yourself to blame, whereas in dota i can dunning kruger myself to sleep in the knowledge that i played flawlessly and i'm perfect

but you're absolutely correct not even in the 60 70 minute games i've played in dota have i ever had the hand shaking sensation i've gotten so often from that satisfaction of making a read being correct replying flawlessly and winning, or even from just making that decision, that decision that turns the tide, that seems absolutely absurd, but sets up a chain of events resulting in you winning
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Brindled
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States508 Posts
September 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#9
I know that feel, Blazinghand. I know that feel.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 01 2013 21:11 GMT
#10
I dunno, I've had a few post-Dota baserace hand shaking moments.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
September 01 2013 21:22 GMT
#11
On September 02 2013 04:33 Blazinghand wrote:
It's not about watching sc2 for me. I find watching sc2 and dota2 to be similar in terms of funness.

In general, SC2 has a special place in my heart. It's the game I fell in love with, unfortunately it takes so much effort and practice to become good. I can't just play a game on the weekends without lowering my skills over time, but at the same time, at the end of every game I would feel either happy or sad, but at least it made me feel because I loved the game.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 01 2013 22:02 GMT
#12
Fantastic read, I thought I was the only one who gets that adrenaline rush in every SC2 game
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Skirmjan
Profile Joined October 2012
Italy190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 00:39:20
September 02 2013 00:39 GMT
#13
I thougth your hand was blazing, not shaking!
aaaand that's my lame pun for the evening, had to say that, sorry

but yea, i can totally understand what you're saying, and while i never really left sc2 for more than a season, i have vivid memories of last year's autumn, when i played a clan war again after some 6 months break from them :D
that feeling of competition in StarCraft is what to me, really feels like a real sport ^^
Heat_023
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada160 Posts
September 02 2013 01:36 GMT
#14
Sweet blog. But I have to add, that the adrenaline that you get on the ladder, as holy as it can be, never reaches the heights of what you can get in a tournament game. SC2 all the way, man. Cheers.
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 02 2013 03:31 GMT
#15
Games like Amnesia give you shaking hands, only for a different reason.

Gotta love a game that is extremely good at what it does, though. Nice blog
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
September 02 2013 06:38 GMT
#16
On September 02 2013 12:31 NewSunshine wrote:
Games like Amnesia give you shaking hands, only for a different reason.

Gotta love a game that is extremely good at what it does, though. Nice blog


Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs, baby!

So fucking close....
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Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
September 02 2013 11:19 GMT
#17
Amen to this thread.

It would be cool if Blizzard could add more incentives into Starcraft to play Teamgames. Maybe new game modes with different winning/starting conditions, or just something simple but chaotic like 2v2v2v2s within the matchmaking system.

I doesn't need to be a variety of new stuff, just one well thought out new game mode that is engaging and can be played in a team would be enough.
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