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Hello TL,
About a month or so ago, I was diagnosed with Exotropic Convergence insufficiency, and I posted about strabisumus surgery and was asking if anyone had done it. Right now , I have to sit around and do literally nothing while looking through some new high power glasses (higher than needed for my eyes anyway) for 2 months, and iv this doesnt work then i might have to go through strabismus surgery. I can not stand it, and therefore i have decided to sell one of my eye balls to science. Even right now, I am closing my eyes and typing this blog and then I will have to read through this with great difficulty. Doing anything is strainous to me, because either my become tired of controlling my eyes or my left/right eye stays toward the side pressing into my head and I get head aches, so if getting rid of one of my eyes is a quick fix, im more than prepared to do it.
So my question is, is there anyone on TL that can direct me to any medical/research group looking for an eyeball (for legal purposes of course), or tell me how I can donate it for transplant purposes.
I am aware that this is an odd request
 
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 21 2013 01:21 WikidSik wrote:
I am aware that this is an odd request
Yeah no kidding
Seriously though, are you sure this is what you'd want to do? I mean, an eyeball is... Well, an eyeball. You don't exactly get those back. And... Well, I'm sorry - I can't help you, but this just strikes me as pretty crazy and too impulsive.
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Hong Kong9154 Posts
You do realize that to take your eye out would require surgery as well, correct? Not to mention that your physician and surgeon, if competent, will refuse to do it. I'm certainly not going through what you are going through, and I'm sure 'annoying' doesn't quite describe it, but the surgery you are preparing for should fix it on a long-term basis.
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I'm sorry to hear what you're going through. It sounds terrible and I can't imagine what a loss it would be.
Wouldn't the doctors that you're seeing be a good source to consult first? Or if not, look for any other doctors and medical schools.
Good luck.
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On June 21 2013 01:31 itsjustatank wrote:
You do realize that to take your eye out would require surgery as well, correct? Not to mention that your physician and surgeon, if competent, will refuse to do it. I'm certainly not going through what you are going through, and I'm sure 'annoying' doesn't quite describe it, but the surgery you are preparing for should fix it on a long-term basis.
iv heard its still experimental, and also i want to able to see things quickly (such as when im crossing the street/playing sports/sc). and yeah my optimitrist was like wtf...
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You probably can still get rid of an eye if the surgery fails.
Don't do anything stupid just because you suffer now. I don't know anything about this, but I assume that you're not taking permanent damage. The time from now until your surgery will only seem like a short time once you're over with it and hopefully got better; but if you lose an eye now you'll regret it forever.
Also I doubt it would be legal to sell organs like that in Canada, anyways.
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wow, i was like "what could this be about?" i bet he has a witch doctor item in diablo 3 that he wants to sell.. but nope, you're selling a human eye ball that belongs to you.
if you sell the eyeball then are you permanently blind? how long do you have to wait for surgery? have you talked to your doctor?? this just makes me feel like teamliquid is probably such an awful place to look for advice.
I feel you though, sometimes i'm in bed with a disgusting hangover and i wonder "how can i go on?!"
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TLADT24920 Posts
sorry to hear about your pain but I would be very careful about what you are considering because once you go through with it, there is a chance you will regret it and you can't turn back time to undo your choice. As mentioned, if you still think this is a good idea, talk to your current doctor and they should have some information on what you can do.
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Dude just stick it out. What you are doing right now is giving up on something that you will regret not doing for the rest of your life. Just keep looking. I understand things are hard, I get that, but this is something you are going to have to overcome. The consequences of you not doing this are blindness and people looking at you funky for the rest of your life becaue one eye will be blinking and the other won't. I don't want to be rude here, but I think you can see why I say give this a shot dude. Getting rid of your eye isn't just a quick fix, it's also the worst choice you can make at this point IMO.
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well any ideas on how to get by without straining myself till september? iv tried to take up an instrument but then i lose control of my eye and then is tart getting head aches... TV also isnt a good idea cuz its a strain on my eye... lol the only thing I can think of is meditating but i might as well be asleep all day and all night.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On June 21 2013 03:05 WikidSik wrote:
well any ideas on how to get by without straining myself till september? iv tried to take up an instrument but then i lose control of my eye and then is tart getting head aches... TV also isnt a good idea cuz its a strain on my eye... lol the only thing I can think of is meditating but i might as well be asleep all day and all night.
might sound bizzare but from I understand, you get headaches when your eye moves and you strain it. I dunno if there's a way to hold it in place which sounds extreme ><
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Man don't give away your eye. Take a month off and focus on eye exercises... please. Once you strengthen them you can learn convergence. It just takes time.
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i dont have any excercises, i have eye glasses that the surgeon said would act as a constant pencil pushup
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Future optometrist here again.
Again, don't want to give unsolicited medical advice (especially since I'm not completely trained yet) but you're being a little over dramatic in my opinion. (Not to mention I doubt what you're suggesting is even possible.)
The surgery should make a massive difference for you, and suffering through the next couple months will be worth it. There is a reason your doctor prescribed what he/she did, and they know what they're talking about.
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Just work your muscles. I don't know if you need to close one eye, but do that if you need to. Then look in an extreme direction (all the way on the edge of your eye socket, or as close as you can get IN FOCUS) and feel the muscles working. If you continue doing this your muscles will get stronger, and then you can maybe move on to convergence exercises, like a pencil pushup.
I really feel that it is possible to strengthen the muscles just like any muscle. But people with strabismus start at a much lower level of strength, so it takes a lot longer for us to get eye strength.
I mean, do you want to wear an eye patch? Come on man... don't give up.
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Audio books, and weed. Just close you eyes and listen. One of the more stimulating things you can do without your eyesight.
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On June 21 2013 01:47 WikidSik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 01:31 itsjustatank wrote:
You do realize that to take your eye out would require surgery as well, correct? Not to mention that your physician and surgeon, if competent, will refuse to do it. I'm certainly not going through what you are going through, and I'm sure 'annoying' doesn't quite describe it, but the surgery you are preparing for should fix it on a long-term basis. iv heard its still experimental, and also i want to able to see things quickly (such as when im crossing the street/playing sports/sc). and yeah my optimitrist was like wtf...
You need depth perception for those things buddy. Don't worry man, just keep finding new things to do! Meditating is always a good choice even without this problem. This shall pass man and hopefully by the end you will have 2 good eyes.
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On June 21 2013 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Future optometrist here again.
Again, don't want to give unsolicited medical advice (especially since I'm not completely trained yet) but you're being a little over dramatic in my opinion. (Not to mention I doubt what you're suggesting is even possible.)
The surgery should make a massive difference for you, and suffering through the next couple months will be worth it. There is a reason your doctor prescribed what he/she did, and they know what they're talking about.
first of all thanks for all the replies guys
and for you,i again thank you for your advice, but I can see why you think im being over dramatic. For you it woud be ez because you study eyes all the time so this stuff is ez pz for you. its not just you its all the surgeons and optomitrists iv been too. Just a word of advice from the patients perspective, plese consider the fact that people with eye problems are going through stress (im a 20 yr old that cant read properly dammit), so I think eye docs/specialists should be a bit more considerate because you may understand the science and the solution to my problem but I as the patient sure dont, and not understanding the mechanics behind a problem that is affecting someone is frightening.
but still i appreciate that fact that a optometrist in training is giving me advice
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On June 21 2013 05:19 Wrongspeedy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 01:47 WikidSik wrote:On June 21 2013 01:31 itsjustatank wrote:
You do realize that to take your eye out would require surgery as well, correct? Not to mention that your physician and surgeon, if competent, will refuse to do it. I'm certainly not going through what you are going through, and I'm sure 'annoying' doesn't quite describe it, but the surgery you are preparing for should fix it on a long-term basis. iv heard its still experimental, and also i want to able to see things quickly (such as when im crossing the street/playing sports/sc). and yeah my optimitrist was like wtf... You need depth perception for those things buddy. Don't worry man, just keep finding new things to do! Meditating is always a good choice even without this problem. This shall pass man and hopefully by the end you will have 2 good eyes.
u need depth perception for starcraft?
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Hey !
I know it's a repeat, but until you made it clear that you changed your mind I guess it doesn't hurt...
Don't do it. I don't know much about your condition, but it seems to be fixable, while losing your eyeball is for ever. Think about a year from now and how each choice will have affected your life by then.
That's for the repeat. Now, meditation. It's really boring at first, but believe me once you get it, and you definitely have the time for that, it is nothing like sleeping. You're not doing much, I'll give you that, but it's something that can make your whole life a lot better. Imagine turning this hard time in something actually useful... Way to say "fuck you" to a crappy condition...
And if sat meditation is too boring, there's yoga, which also has the side effect of making your body look and feel better. And if you are able to do sports, dance and martial arts both can be done eyes closed, with a strong focus on your sensations.
Sure it's not all too exiting. But a few months are nothing compared to a lifetime, even though it may feel like eternity right now. Don't fucking sell your eyeball dude.
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On June 21 2013 05:33 WikidSik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Future optometrist here again.
Again, don't want to give unsolicited medical advice (especially since I'm not completely trained yet) but you're being a little over dramatic in my opinion. (Not to mention I doubt what you're suggesting is even possible.)
The surgery should make a massive difference for you, and suffering through the next couple months will be worth it. There is a reason your doctor prescribed what he/she did, and they know what they're talking about.
first of all thanks for all the replies guys and for you,i again thank you for your advice, but I can see why you think im being over dramatic. For you it woud be ez because you study eyes all the time so this stuff is ez pz for you. its not just you its all the surgeons and optomitrists iv been too. Just a word of advice from the patients perspective, plese consider the fact that people with eye problems are going through stress (im a 20 yr old that cant read properly dammit), so I think eye docs/specialists should be a bit more considerate because you may understand the science and the solution to my problem but I as the patient sure dont, and not understanding the mechanics behind a problem that is affecting someone is frightening. but still i appreciate that fact that a optometrist in training is giving me advice
Trust me, I understand from a patient's perspective that often doctors may not always be the most sympathetic of people. I've gone through stressful medical procedures in my life and had nonchalant seemingly uncaring surgeons through it all.
As others have stated before though, losing an eye is a BIG DEAL. I agree that this is stressful for you and I wish I could offer you some sort of temporary solution; all I can say is this is one of those things that you'll just have to wait and see for yourself and you'll see how worth the wait it really is.
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Looks like the eyes have it.
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Responding cause the thread caught my eye. It's easy to get too focused on imediate suffering and lose sight of the big picture, but you should really reconsider your decision, and when i say reconsider I mean drop it, forget the idea, put a lid on it.
Keep your vision on the big picture here, it's losing a freaking eye!
Sight.. I don't know how to make you see that it is a horrible decision...
I guess I will be keeping an eye out for how this develops, good luck!
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Oh no you didn't... Thanks for the laughsss !
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im dead serious on this
the thing is with exercise (physical) is that i lose control of my eye = headaches so yeah. i just need something to pass the time besides meditating (im indian and i dont believe in spirituality so...)
also i dont think i phrased this properly. my glasses arent for the surgery. they are another solution. if my glasses dont work then in September the surgeon will consider surgery
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On June 21 2013 11:11 WikidSik wrote:
im dead serious on this
the thing is with exercise (physical) is that i lose control of my eye = headaches so yeah. i just need something to pass the time besides meditating (im indian and i dont believe in spirituality so...)
also i dont think i phrased this properly. my glasses arent for the surgery. they are another solution. if my glasses dont work then in September the surgeon will consider surgery
Get a fuckton of audio books, I recommend Haruki Murakami, David Foster Wallace, or any other post-modernist/modern writer. Hell, have a friend pick out an entire best 100 books of the century/ever and play them all while you build eye strength. While I understand this is experimental, as WaveofShadow said, stick it out. Audio books and podcasts from Itunes U on subjects you like would be very fun, as much as it sounds boring; I really fucking enjoy it, and reading is great. You could turn this into a crazy productive part of your life, or you could do the opposite and smoke weed to pass the time, either way you just need to pass the time. Pretty existential actually lol.
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Let me corret you : you're indian and you don't understand spirituality.
There is no beliefs in that, it's not a religion. That you're not interested is fine though.
Well if you're dead serious, I guess good luck with your search. To be honest I don't see any phycisian even accepting to take your eyeball off. You may actually not have a choice but to go through it.
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fine ill stop looking for a way to get rid of my eyeball. iv thought of a few ways to pass the time (cooking or something).
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Great :-)
Really glad you made that decision. Cooking is a good idea I think, just close your eyeS and let your nose do the work.
Please keep us updated, and keep strong !
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