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Mvp is my hero!

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Chiyosuke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 23:20:36
May 26 2013 22:23 GMT
#1
Yea... I thought it would have been pretty obvious from the front page of TL and whatnot, but it was my bad for not putting up spoiler tags. My bad guys lol

DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED WCS EU FINALS OR WANT TO WATCH THEM.

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I just watched WCS EU and saw IM.Mvp completely dominate his way through the tournament. It was amazing to see him just push through opponent after opponent just completely wrecking them in every single form. Every single game he would seem to bring out a new style of play and still win with it. He would switch from a very turtly meching style to a hyper APM intensive bio play that just pulled his opponents apart. He was 3-0'ing amazing players and it seemed as if nobody could stand in his way.

He didn't lose composure no matter what the situation was. In game 2 versus Dimaga it seemed as if he was in an un-winnable position, always being attacked when he was down by almost 50 supply. But engagement after engagement he seemed to never let his army die. He was meching and placing his tanks in amazingly good positions where units would be bottlenecked and was always on top of the tech switches from the zerg. That is what was really phenomenal in my honest opinion. Dimaga would just lose army after army, switching tech routes all over the place from roach hydra viper to muta ling, to infestor ultra, but despite all of this being thrown at him MVP was able to just use clutch scans to see small packs of mutas coming out to start making thors, and split up his tanks to avoid getting owned by blinding cloud and knew when to keep his tanks un-sieged.

After the games were done I read in the twitch chat and it was understandable. Europeans were all upset about their players being eliminated from the tournament, and there were especially a lot of players complaining about TERRAN OP as always. Terran will always be the scapegoat of peoples anger on the game, regardless of the winrates of players.

Seeing a player just be able to dominate a tournament like that really inspires a player to just get onto the ladder and play some more games. Only a lowly master league player, but maybe one day I'll be able to just have a ridiculous tournament record like that.


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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 26 2013 22:45 GMT
#2
There are no spoilers in this thread at all
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Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
May 26 2013 22:49 GMT
#3
Damn the one thing I was gonna try to watch spoiler-free. My fault of course, shouldnt have been on TL at all.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 26 2013 23:11 GMT
#4
Mvp is my absolute favourite player of all time
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 26 2013 23:15 GMT
#5
MVP did his part, Nestea you let us all down.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 26 2013 23:24 GMT
#6
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Very much so agree. I'm not a Terran but MVP is one of my favourite, if not my favourite player, becasue he just wills his way to winning, and he's done so over and over again. It's truly amazing.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
May 27 2013 00:33 GMT
#7
Guy is just plain likeable. Plays so well, is a nice guy, and just a great role model for the SC2 scene. I think if he wins the WCS event then he is the best player to grace the game. However...he might not win the event...he did leave Korea to go to WCS Europe for a reason
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Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
May 27 2013 01:04 GMT
#8
Guys, it's Mvp not MVP.
Anyway, he is pretty amazing. :D
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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
May 27 2013 01:17 GMT
#9
On May 27 2013 09:33 Pandemona wrote:
Guy is just plain likeable. Plays so well, is a nice guy, and just a great role model for the SC2 scene. I think if he wins the WCS event then he is the best player to grace the game. However...he might not win the event...he did leave Korea to go to WCS Europe for a reason


Yeah, because once you're in Code B, it takes 2 seasons to work your way up to Premier.

He did not "flee from the competition" as many insinuate.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
wanghis
Profile Joined July 2011
United States320 Posts
May 27 2013 03:55 GMT
#10
my hero goes to europe to play weaker competition as well
是那种想到他每天训练14个小时好辛苦就很心疼就想给他揉揉肩煲煲汤的那种爱
SecondHand
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States329 Posts
May 27 2013 06:28 GMT
#11
Mvp is so fucking incredible
Ladder more, win less
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 27 2013 06:32 GMT
#12
He won vs less experienced players with an inferior training regimen. He's an amazing player with an amazing legacy, but honestly he doesn't deserve much credit for this particular championship. He chased the easy money and shied away from the true competition, where he could fight to be the best in the world and where he's been invested for 3 years. And I say this as an Mvp fan.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
May 27 2013 11:28 GMT
#13
MVP did also lose 0-2 to Lucifron and dimaga in round of 16 and 32. He didn't completely streamroll the tournament, but he gave a good account of himself.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
May 27 2013 13:08 GMT
#14
On May 27 2013 20:28 iaguz wrote:
MVP did also lose 0-2 to Lucifron and dimaga in round of 16 and 32. He didn't completely streamroll the tournament, but he gave a good account of himself.


He was playing online cross server.
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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
May 27 2013 15:44 GMT
#15
On May 27 2013 15:32 Doodsmack wrote:
He won vs less experienced players with an inferior training regimen. He's an amazing player with an amazing legacy, but honestly he doesn't deserve much credit for this particular championship. He chased the easy money and shied away from the true competition, where he could fight to be the best in the world and where he's been invested for 3 years. And I say this as an Mvp fan.


This.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 27 2013 16:55 GMT
#16
On May 27 2013 07:49 Bibbit wrote:
Damn the one thing I was gonna try to watch spoiler-free. My fault of course, shouldnt have been on TL at all.


This is the best post I've ever seen about someone having something spoiled.
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DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
May 27 2013 22:19 GMT
#17
On May 27 2013 12:55 wanghis wrote:
my hero goes to europe to play weaker competition as well


MC fighting!
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
May 28 2013 02:04 GMT
#18
On May 28 2013 00:44 Sakray wrote:
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On May 27 2013 15:32 Doodsmack wrote:
He won vs less experienced players with an inferior training regimen. He's an amazing player with an amazing legacy, but honestly he doesn't deserve much credit for this particular championship. He chased the easy money and shied away from the true competition, where he could fight to be the best in the world and where he's been invested for 3 years. And I say this as an Mvp fan.


This.


I wonder how many times we have to repeat this.

Mvp competed in Europe because it takes 2 seasons to go from Code B to Code S. If Mvp had stayed in Korea, there is a 0% chance he would have been able to compete in the end-of-year BlizzCon finals.

Now, if you look at someone like TaeJa, who was in Code S and then went over to WCS NA's Code A, there's an argument to be made that TaeJa was grabbing easy money. (In reality, the decision probably involved various team members and it was more complicated than grabbing easy money.)

Unlike TaeJa, Mvp was in Code B... and he was offered a seed into the Premier Division of WCS Europe. And he crushed WCS Europe. I highly doubt he wanted easier competition.

In fact, it's laughable... you're talking about someone who has won 4 GSLs... Look at PuMa, who goes around winning foreign tournaments. Now look at Mvp, who rarely ventures out of Korea. Mvp, whose most notable successes have all occurred in GSL. And now people start claiming that Mvp is somehow afraid of the competition.

Well, WCS Season Finals are coming up, and Mvp can show his skill then.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
May 28 2013 04:19 GMT
#19
it's not like Mvp has anything left to prove, he can do whatever he wants :o
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