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On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid  IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
The "Stupid" was not adressed to your IQ, it was adressed to the Title of the Thread and the Term "Worst Parents".
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So you'd rather have an abusive dad that lets you play SC2 all day as compared to this? Define "worst parents". By what standards?
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Hey guy. be happy to be able to visit a gymnasium and live at your parents, at the age of 16. The majority of young male this age are working as apprentice at some odd job.
Be grateful your parent still feed you, you are freaking 16. They could just decide" our boy is only causing stress, you are old enough to live on your own, move out and stop disturbing our lives".
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How dare you exaggerate in a self-professed rant?
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Honestly not the worst parents ever. I mean it sucks that they won't let you do what you want to do as your hobby, but still.
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What a spoiled brat. It's a shame how you're not self aware of that. Your life is a cakewalk compared to verbal and physically abusive parents.
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For someone who classifies himself as intelligent you sure write like an unintelligent person. Never mind the fact that you still seem to have the emotional maturity of a child at the age of sixteen. I was in the same boat at your age but through discussions about the advantages and disadvantages; I convinced my parents to let me play. Maybe it's something you can try.
Anecdotal evidence: I had a nearly exact replica of the circumstances OP is describing when I was 16, and in retrospect I was a prick. My parents were right, and I still had no idea what I wanted for myself. Had I actually followed through on their recommendations with gusto as opposed to the hateful indifference I conducted myself with, I expect I would be 3 years ahead on my ACTUAL life goals at this point.
Agreed. It wasn't my parent's fault however, more the fault of our shitty school system. I could've been years ahead in Math/Physics if I actually applied myself 3 years ago instead of only playing videogames. However, apparently the subject matter was easy enough for me to play games all day. Looking back I wish my parents had given me more opportunities to challenge myself regarding school work. I didn't get such a challenge and as such sought these challenges in videogames.
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I've been lucky enough to have better parents than most people I know. Not that my acquaintances have bad parents.
My parents would never hit me, but I knew they would take away anything I liked if I didn't keep my grades up. Inevitably, I did not keep my grades up. Preparing for the fallout, I cut any social time outside of school. I didn't want to give them the satisfaction of humiliating me in front of my friends. I would stay up until I was so tired I couldn't go to school, and sacrificed anything I found enjoyment in my parents could restrict. I don't know if it was worth it, but perhaps it was necessary for my well being. Before I turned 18, flexing my influence was the most important thing to me. Not in a vane way, but so that I could ensure any plans I involved myself in could not be interrupted. It is difficult to fully invest oneself in anything when you know at any point you could find yourself set back to square one. They are still awesome parents though.
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On May 02 2013 22:50 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:49 Chaggi wrote:On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well for someone who says he's smart, but complains that his parents are "the worst parents in the world" because they don't let you play video games.... lol Its more a thing of justice. Read the whole thing then tell me whos right and whos wrong
Well you admitted that you, screamed at your parents for 10 minutes straight because they wouldn’t let you watch or play SC2, sooooo…I am gong to side with them. Look, you might want to take it down a notch. Your parents don’t really care about SC2 or video games, they care about the 10 minute screaming thing. That is not normal behavior and it is likely what they are concerned with.
Having been 16 and 21 and 25, all the way up to 33. If I had to pass on one piece of advice to people that are young than me, its: “The sooner you admit you know nothing, the soon the world treats you with respect.” This theory is also approved by Adam Savage, and he is smarter than all of us.
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I play both starcraft brood war as well as starcraft 2. It´s the first and only game i´ve ever had a passion for (besides DoTa, i played a lot of that as well) and i´ve played over 2.5k sc2 games.
You've played just as many or more SC2 games as I've played video games... Thats a few years span vs my life to date. Your parents are trying to help you, quit ranting. Also, don't pay attention to what other people do with their lives... You have no idea where they're going to end up.
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Your parents love you. Pay it back by respecting their opinions.
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Myself, having come from parents that are very educated compared to the average 50 year old around Europe and America and also relatively reasonable when it comes to life philosophy, personal choice and other similar things I pity people in your position.
Since about 6-8 years the only way my parents ever "denied" me anything was if they thought I was in risk of physical/legal harm from doing it and if I actually needed their help ( aka money ) to do said thing. It does seems unreasonable to me for someone not to be allowed sitting on a computer as much as they want because it's the modern equivalent of not letting a kid to read books.
You could try to reason with them, collect information about why what you are doing is damaging to you in any way, why them watching tv isn't different from you watching a video game. If that doesn't work than get people to help you.
If you say you are one of the "smart kids" than you might not have a lot of "bro" type friends you can get involved in helping you but you do have a lot more leverage with school personal, talk with the counselor ( if you have one ) or with a psychology teacher that knows you and that is ether young or that you know is open minded, have them call your parents to come to school and tell them ( as in " I overheard you son talking about this" ) about the fact that they should let you do what you want more because you need to learn to be somewhat independent and need to make your own life choices.
Other than that I can only say that if this is true I am sad for you, this kind of bullshit is simply the result of young people like you thinking they ( you ) know jack when they don't and older people thinking they know any better ( a few examples of those right in this thread as well ) because they are older when instead they might just know less because their education is outdated and their mindset less open to new ideas.
If only we could listen to good ol'Socrates more, there is a reason why most respected thinkers in the last 3000 years decided to put "philo" before "sophy" when they described themselves.
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It's blogs like these that make me really be so grateful my dad was awesome and still is lol. I feel for you I would hate it if my parents (will dad) was anything like your parents xD.
On May 03 2013 00:07 Holo82 wrote:
Hey guy. be happy to be able to visit a gymnasium and live at your parents, at the age of 16. The majority of young male this age are working as apprentice at some odd job.
Be grateful your parent still feed you, you are freaking 16. They could just decide" our boy is only causing stress, you are old enough to live on your own, move out and stop disturbing our lives".
No they can't. Maybe where you live but in the US that's 18 years old not 16.
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Try not to read this in this sense that I'm trying to antagonize you.
Instead of viewing your your parents actions from the perspective that they are just being assholes, look at what may be causing them to resort to such actions. You mentioned that SC has a negative effect on your emotional state, so from an objective point of view it seems quite reasonable that they would want to limit your access to it. I understand that it can be difficult to detach your ego from such issues, but if you are anywhere near as mature and intelligent as you repeatedly claim to be, then it should be possible. Once you understand the areas in which you need to improve or correct your path (if you don't find anything then you've fucked up), the next step is discussing it with your parents.
There are two different scenarios which can play out at this point, and I'm reluctant to state the second one. First, if your parents are remotely rational human beings, which I would tend to assume is the case, then the process is simple. Discuss these issues, and at all times emphasize two things. If at any point the confrontation becomes heated, you will need to display that you are capable of being more mature than your parents. Do not raise your voice, no matter how much you want to. If they are frothing at the mouth while you are sitting there like Keanu Reeves attempting to calmly discuss things, then it reframes the interaction as you being the mature party. They will begin to see and feel this change, and if they don't change their behaviour then you read the second scenario. Do not cut them off, and make sure that they are able to say everything they want to before you begin speaking. If your parents are prone to talking over you, then calmly point out that you let them speak without interruption and you would like the same respect. This will also reframe them as being immature. Avoid doing these things in an antagonistic manner, as once again, the purpose is to calm them down and act as the mature person.
The final step is simply understanding how to achieve outcomes in such discussions. To paraphrase from a section of the book "Influence", if you are not prepared to make consolations, then you will have little success in achieving your favourable outcomes. Let me rephrase that. Be prepared to make consolations, and stick by them. The purpose of this discussion is not to prove who is right or wrong, but to achieve outcomes which are suitable to both parties. Hopefully my advice as given you somewhat of a rubric to approach this issue in this way.
I will now explain why I'm reluctant to state the second scenario. In this case, your parents truly are tyrannical and irrational as human beings. I don't mean this in the sense that you view them as such from your clearly subjective point of view. I mean that they are actually incapable of having reasonable discussions, and will proceed to act like children even if you follow everything laid out above to a T. This is almost certainly not the case, and I don't like even mentioning it because, since it sounds like you already falsely assume them as such. Either way give them the benefit of the doubt at least once. In the event that this is actually true, then I have only one piece of advice for you. Move out as soon as possible. In my case, my Brother moved out when he was 16, and I moved out when I was 17 due to disagreements with our stepfather. He is an alcoholic with a severely traumatic childhood, and is actually incapable of having reasonable discussions due to his alcoholism and mental problems. I don't say this because I want your pity, I'm saying this to hopefully give you some kind of reference for what I'm talking about.
Good luck man.
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hahahaha everything you say is just so cute
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God knows I can sympathize. You sound like my son Colin.
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OP
Read what rad301 wrote and shut up.
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I am much in agreement here as my life relates to this very much so as well. My parents never really set limits on me for anything just because they had the authority to. Your parents sound like they are trying to protect you from something, but they don't really know what and are too set in their ways to even care to find a reason. They just "know" that what you're doing is wrong. I would hate to have parents so limiting and restrictive that you can't argue with them over anything without being punished or receiving the standard "no" response every time.
Yesterday I was debating with my dad about Jason Collins (sp?) and we were both telling each other our opinions and reasons for thinking in such a way. Even though we both disagreed a bit on the topic, I was glad I had the opportunity to debate with him. We both respected each other and learned why we both thought the way we thought about the topic. Unfortunately I don't see the kind of relationship that I have with my parents for you. They are very open, and I love that they are like that. The way you describe your parents sounds like it's their way or no way. I wouldn't expect to ever have a friendly, casual relationship with them the way I do with my parents.
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my best friend in high school, Andy, had the shit kicked out of him by his genetic parents almost every day from the time he was 2 until the time he was 10.
His mother's sister then took over custody and care for him at age 10.
From age 10 until about .. ooo.. 20 he held a rage inside him that few people who have never been physically abused can understand.
quit feeling sorry for yourself.
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why did you capitalize the T in Dota, its just a "the"
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