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Just felt like sharing this experience of mine and i also wanted to see if others might have similiar problems.
Anyway here goes nothing:
So im a 16 year old boy living in Switzerland im in the best gymnasium in the country (statistically rank 1) and im in the bilingual class as well. I play volleyball 2 times a week as well as table tennis 2 times a week some im in good shape (if you say it like that  ). I´m also in a band. I play both starcraft brood war as well as starcraft 2. It´s the first and only game i´ve ever had a passion for (besides DoTa, i played a lot of that as well) and i´ve played over 2.5k sc2 games. But I got this really awesome thing called annoying parents that regard starcraft as a waste of time. They have this philosophy that it isn´t normal to have a passion for games and (here comes the best part) watching starcraft is the same as playing it. It pretty much started years back when i first got into the gymnasium where they promised to buy me a computer (i was 11 then). They didn´t keep their promise (as was to be expected) because they thought i changed and that i wasn´t such a game junk anymore but then they realized i was still the same so they thought it was wrong to buy me one. Anyhow I accepted that and life pretty much went on as usual except that they used everything to stop me from gaming. It would be something like this: "you didnt go to the grocery store like we told you." BAM one week no computer (mind you i was only allowed to play on weed ends anyhow). Despite all of that i kinda had to accept it and still played when i could. Now when starcraft 2 came out i was obviously amazed by the game and started with the Beta, then bought the game on release and after 5 seasons got into masters. At that point my parents said, you play computer too much and i ended up with 6 MONTHS NO STARCRAFT 2.
I was forced to play league of legends since starcraft was faaaar too stressful for me and all the fast clicking made me go crazy. Recently me and my dad had an agreement, that i could play 1.5 hours a day if i did certain things such as go to my trainings and all that stuff. I fulfilled those things but for the first 2 weeks i played 3 hours every 2nd day instead of 1.5 hours daily. But i didn´t go over the 10.5 hours i had a week yet my dad (and my mum as well) cheated as was to be excpected and they actually counted things like being on my phone and checking my e-mail to those 1.5 hours. This ended in a disaster and i wasn´t able to play at all anymore (again).
Despite this i managed to get into masters in hots 2 weeks after release (before my renewed computer ban). My mum said after 1 month ill be able to play again so i said okay and after 1 month she says i still can´t play. Why? Because starcraft is all i think off and i dont have an interest for anything else (which is complete bs, i love starcraft but i dont dream about it -.-). So 2 weeks later im writing this.
My parents still refuse to let me play any video games (my xbox got taken away as well :D). They also say that watching starcraft is the same as playing it. Then i tell them: Well watching tennis is the same as playing it then. Then they say that starcraft isnt a sport and that i should get real at which point i go on a total rage spree and yell at them for like 10 minutes straight. Now my mum said that i gotta study out of Switzerland since she cant take my mental torture anymore (actual words lol). Who the hell is torturing who here? Anyhow i´d like to here your opinions on this and i´d also love to here your stories on annoying parents so i can also feel better about myself. What´s also funny all my friends can play the whole day and mostly don´t even do sports and some of them are even overweight. Oh the irony how the intelligent people that actually do things can´t play while others can do whatever they want.
Anyhow that was my rant like i said leave what you think below and some of your experiences as well if you have any :D
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I had an abusive alcoholic father who went to jail twice. Ye I said it.
But ye, not being allowed to play games must suck.
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... lol... what the fuck did i just read
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blog this be, I'm afraid.
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Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16.
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On May 02 2013 22:40 Nausea wrote:
I had an abusive alcoholic father who went to jail twice. Ye I said it.
But ye, not being allowed to play games must suck.
My father also got really angry once or twice before he quit his job as a manager at HILTI and also hit me although i think your problem is much bigger. Must´ve been a hard childhood.
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Dont be a bad kid and do what your parents tell you. Their house, their rules. If it sucks shit, save up your money and move out the minute you turn 18. Until then quit going into 'total rage spree'. Your lucky to have parents that obviously care so much about your life. Most people arent so lucky.
Also this belongs in blogs....
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On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16.
For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid  IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
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Hm... Have fun in your studies abroad, seriously, studying "abroad" is awesome, do it! :D
Well, your parents seem to be pretty conservative (not in the political sense) and tough. SC2/Gaming seems to be the first thing that made you "rebel" against their wishes. It will get better once your a bit older, you'll argue calmer and they will get used to your hobbies... For now? Not much you can do except waiting to get 18 (or, if your really unlucky, you move out)...
I would guess you are either their only child or the oldest one? Oh, allready answered... How old is your younger sister? Your parents are in for a rough ride, girls during puberty are... "difficult" (way moreso than boys normally)...
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oh god parents that don't let you play video games???
call child protective services, this must be stopped immediately
what are they thinking???
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On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
"I know that I am intelligent because I know that I know nothing"
-Socrates
Best not to definte yourself as 'really really smart' at the tender age of 16, it comes off as at best arrogant and at worse falsifiable : D
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On May 02 2013 22:46 mizU wrote:
oh god parents that don't let you play video games???
call child protective services, this must be stopped immediately
what are they thinking???
It actually is really important how you look upon things depending on where you live. Considering that i live in Switzerland, the country where every 2nd person has an iphone and about 70% of my class mates have their own computers (if not 2) not allowing a kid to play video games isn´t that normal
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On May 02 2013 22:42 Equity213 wrote:
Dont be a bad kid and do what your parents tell you. Their house, their rules. If it sucks shit, save up your money and move out the minute you turn 18. Until then quit going into 'total rage spree'. Your lucky to have parents that obviously care so much about your life. Most people arent so lucky.
Also this belongs in blogs....
This. Not even close to the worst parents in the world and you should be lucky they even care what you are doing with your free time. If it bothers you so much suck it up and move out when you turn 18. Then do w/e you want with your own life and not listen to anyone like normal people.
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On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
You're also incredibly modest, I think thats your greatest trait. Also you have some terrible living conditions with those parents, but you don't let it hinder your performance. You're great!
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On May 02 2013 22:46 Hitch-22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well "I know that I am intelligent because I know that I know nothing" -Socrates Best not to definte yourself as 'really really smart' at the tender age of 16, it comes off as at best arrogant and at worse falsifiable : D
Youre right. Ill rephrase myelf. Very intelligent for my age
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i just called Vormundschaftsbehörden, don't worry I'm sure they'll put you with parents that let you play games all day because they're not home
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On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
for someone who says he's smart, but complains that his parents are "the worst parents in the world" because they don't let you play video games.... lol
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On May 02 2013 22:48 Bojas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well You're also incredibly modest, I think thats your greatest trait. Also you have some terrible living conditions with those parents, but you don't let it hinder your performance. You're great!
you can go elsewhere with your sarcasm thank you very much
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On May 02 2013 22:48 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:46 Hitch-22 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well "I know that I am intelligent because I know that I know nothing" -Socrates Best not to definte yourself as 'really really smart' at the tender age of 16, it comes off as at best arrogant and at worse falsifiable : D Youre right. Ill rephrase myelf. Very intelligent for my age
Such comments are to be judged for you, not by you 
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On May 02 2013 22:49 Chaggi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well for someone who says he's smart, but complains that his parents are "the worst parents in the world" because they don't let you play video games.... lol
Its more a thing of justice. Read the whole thing then tell me whos right and whos wrong
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While it sucks and 7 years ago I could have related, you really don't have a leg to stand on.
The truth is it's their house, their electricity, and you are a dependent who for all intensive purposes relies on them for survival. If they say jump the only answer you should give is, "How high?"
Your parents obviously love you enough to take a vested interest in your life and you only have to wait a bit longer until you can move out for good. Parents will ALWAYS try and meddle. It's a matter of 1) picking your battles and 2) realizing when you can (as a man) make a stand and say, "No. I will do as I please, not because it is contrary to what you said, or because of a whim, but because I truly believe this is the best course for my life." When you can do that honestly, you'll know.
In Summation: Right and Wrong's got nothing to do with it.
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I think you should do what you love. You could get a job and buy your own computer. I believe then you'll have a legitimate reason to stand up to your parents to protect what you like doing. I seems like they own everything you own so they're in the rights to take it away unfortunately.
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On May 02 2013 22:50 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:49 Chaggi wrote:On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well for someone who says he's smart, but complains that his parents are "the worst parents in the world" because they don't let you play video games.... lol Its more a thing of justice. Read the whole thing then tell me whos right and whos wrong
It's a stupid thing to argue about, their house, their rules. You can complain sure, it's not gonna change anything. Maybe they will lighten up once they realize this isn't a phase, maybe it is maybe it isn't who knows. Either way, you're parents can do w/e they want.
As someone said above. Buy you're own computer, might have a leg to stand on and actually keep it when they try to take it away. Same thing when regarding the games and internet bill, pay that and you might be able to keep them.
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I had to cheat at everything i liked doing in life except sports and school, then i turned 18 and suddenly they didn't give a shit about what i do, when i party, when i come home, when i play games, pretty much anything. Now i'm 22 and i'm gonna get my Bachelor's degree from Chemistry this year and continue with my studies. But i must say i was quite addicted to games (and mtg) when i was younger and maybe cause parents were bugging me about it, it made me realize where my future priorities should lie, but fortunately they do understand watching starcraft is not same as playing it. For me it's first social life and school, then working out, then it's watching starcraft, last thing is playing it, even tho i love the game
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On May 02 2013 22:49 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:48 Bojas wrote:On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well You're also incredibly modest, I think thats your greatest trait. Also you have some terrible living conditions with those parents, but you don't let it hinder your performance. You're great! you can go elsewhere with your sarcasm thank you very much
Well hey, we're not the ones bragging about how smart we are now are we? You may think your really smart now, but the decisions your making are considered stupid in a sense. When you're actually raging about parents who actually give a damn about your life, I don't know what good parents are. I wish my parents had actually been more aggressive towards my excessive gaming, maybe I would have done more sports and been in more extracurricular programs. If you really can't see their point of view, even though it may sometimes be irrational, then honestly wait until you can move out or go to college and live your life from there on out as you please.
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There have been some hilarious threads on this site recently, but this is one if the better ones.
Study hard, play Starcraft once you have moved out. Problems solved!
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Here's what everybody needs to do for this poor tortured soul.
Here is the number for Swiss CPS:
+41 044 944 74 80
Call that and inform them that this poor kid is being tortured by his family. They need to save him from his misery. The Swiss speak French, German, and Italian. I used French, say your friend Park has already reported this.
Here I'll make it easy, just say this:
Je voudrais à signaler la maltraitance des enfants sur l'internet. Mon copain Park a déjà signalé.
Also report his IP Address, it's 46.14.194.213.
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On May 02 2013 22:36 onewaystyx wrote:
Then they say that starcraft isnt a sport and that i should get real at which point i go on a total rage spree and yell at them for like 10 minutes straight. If you were my son, that would have been the downgrade to a Linux netbook right there.
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1/10 Pretty bad troll, if you were around half as sarcastic and dropped just a little of the gloating then it'd be pretty good
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Honestly, I was expect some sort of post about domestic abuse and neglect that appeared on the newspaper.
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On May 02 2013 22:55 Caller wrote:
Here's what everybody needs to do for this poor tortured soul.
Here is the number for Swiss CPS:
+41 044 944 74 80
Call that and inform them that this poor kid is being tortured by his family. They need to save him from his misery. The Swiss speak French, German, and Italian. I used French, say your friend Park has already reported this.
Here I'll make it easy, just say this:
Je voudrais à signaler la maltraitance des enfants sur l'internet. Mon copain Park a déjà signalé.
Also report his IP Address, it's 46.14.194.213.
You're a good soul, good for you sir. This poor chap is at his wits end.
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On May 02 2013 22:36 onewaystyx wrote:
I was forced to play league of legends
You tortured soul.
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On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
The fact that you're only 16 and completely full of yourself doesn't make you look very wise. A high IQ doesn't count for much unless you have the wisdom and experience to go along with it. You're young though, so it's no big deal.
The situation with your parents sucks, but you can't do anything about it and yelling at them was a bad mistake. Either you should do what they say or find a way to hide your gaming. Go to a friend's house or internet cafe. I don't know how it is where you live, but I my town there's a gaming internet cafe that's 0.4 euros per hour and everyone goes there after school.
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On May 02 2013 23:03 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:36 onewaystyx wrote:
I was forced to play league of legends You tortured soul.
best comment of thread
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Why is everyone so anti ?
He should be able to have more freedom.
Sure there are people with who would love to have that kind of parents. But infact having parents that push you doesn't make you happy and doesn't make you successful to every extend. You should be able to follow your interest to a higher degree when you are 16. You are able to make your own decisions and your are adding something to the household (sidenote: what are those guys thinking that parents are able to/shall tell you to do anything they want ? they are not your masters and your are a human being not somebody's "slave"(<- obvious overstatement)) so you should be allowed to have more freedom as one day you'll live on your own and you should rather go a bit crazy now then later when going crazy for a time can fuck your whole life up.
Oh and on the last note to everyone wanting those parents, please think about how much you really want those parents. Getting pushed around without you being motivated sucks and if you are not getting motivated by yourself why even bother that much you have obviously different interests.
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On May 02 2013 23:12 ChillPhiju wrote:
Why is everyone so anti ?
He should be able to have more freedom.
Sure there are people with who would love to have that kind of parents. But infact having parents that push you doesn't make you happy and doesn't make you successful to every extend. You should be able to follow your interest to a higher degree when you are 16. You are able to make your own decisions and your are adding something to the household (sidenote: what are those guys thinking that parents are able to/shall tell you to do anything they want ? they are not your masters and your are a human being not somebody's "slave"(<- obvious overstatement)) so you should be allowed to have more freedom as one day you'll live on your own and you should rather go a bit crazy now then later when going crazy for a time can fuck your whole life up.
Oh and on the last note to everyone wanting those parents, please think about how much you really want those parents. Getting pushed around without you being motivated sucks and if you are not getting motivated by yourself why even bother that much you have obviously different interests.
precisely, so go call CPS so they can take this poor abused child and place him with parents that will let him do anything he wants because they're not there
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On May 02 2013 23:12 ChillPhiju wrote:
Why is everyone so anti ?
He should be able to have more freedom.
Sure there are people with who would love to have that kind of parents. But infact having parents that push you doesn't make you happy and doesn't make you successful to every extend. You should be able to follow your interest to a higher degree when you are 16. You are able to make your own decisions and your are adding something to the household (sidenote: what are those guys thinking that parents are able to/shall tell you to do anything they want ? they are not your masters and your are a human being not somebody's "slave"(<- obvious overstatement)) so you should be allowed to have more freedom as one day you'll live on your own and you should rather go a bit crazy now then later when going crazy for a time can fuck your whole life up.
Oh and on the last note to everyone wanting those parents, please think about how much you really want those parents. Getting pushed around without you being motivated sucks and if you are not getting motivated by yourself why even bother that much you have obviously different interests.
While not a point against what you're saying in any way, general consensus would disagree.
What's more, science would disagree. At 16 he is in NO WAY cognitively mature as you're making it out. You're wrong.
Anecdotal evidence: I had a nearly exact replica of the circumstances OP is describing when I was 16, and in retrospect I was a prick. My parents were right, and I still had no idea what I wanted for myself. Had I actually followed through on their recommendations with gusto as opposed to the hateful indifference I conducted myself with, I expect I would be 3 years ahead on my ACTUAL life goals at this point.
Horrible advice.
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On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
The "Stupid" was not adressed to your IQ, it was adressed to the Title of the Thread and the Term "Worst Parents".
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So you'd rather have an abusive dad that lets you play SC2 all day as compared to this? Define "worst parents". By what standards?
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Hey guy. be happy to be able to visit a gymnasium and live at your parents, at the age of 16. The majority of young male this age are working as apprentice at some odd job.
Be grateful your parent still feed you, you are freaking 16. They could just decide" our boy is only causing stress, you are old enough to live on your own, move out and stop disturbing our lives".
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How dare you exaggerate in a self-professed rant?
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Honestly not the worst parents ever. I mean it sucks that they won't let you do what you want to do as your hobby, but still.
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What a spoiled brat. It's a shame how you're not self aware of that. Your life is a cakewalk compared to verbal and physically abusive parents.
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For someone who classifies himself as intelligent you sure write like an unintelligent person. Never mind the fact that you still seem to have the emotional maturity of a child at the age of sixteen. I was in the same boat at your age but through discussions about the advantages and disadvantages; I convinced my parents to let me play. Maybe it's something you can try.
Anecdotal evidence: I had a nearly exact replica of the circumstances OP is describing when I was 16, and in retrospect I was a prick. My parents were right, and I still had no idea what I wanted for myself. Had I actually followed through on their recommendations with gusto as opposed to the hateful indifference I conducted myself with, I expect I would be 3 years ahead on my ACTUAL life goals at this point.
Agreed. It wasn't my parent's fault however, more the fault of our shitty school system. I could've been years ahead in Math/Physics if I actually applied myself 3 years ago instead of only playing videogames. However, apparently the subject matter was easy enough for me to play games all day. Looking back I wish my parents had given me more opportunities to challenge myself regarding school work. I didn't get such a challenge and as such sought these challenges in videogames.
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I've been lucky enough to have better parents than most people I know. Not that my acquaintances have bad parents.
My parents would never hit me, but I knew they would take away anything I liked if I didn't keep my grades up. Inevitably, I did not keep my grades up. Preparing for the fallout, I cut any social time outside of school. I didn't want to give them the satisfaction of humiliating me in front of my friends. I would stay up until I was so tired I couldn't go to school, and sacrificed anything I found enjoyment in my parents could restrict. I don't know if it was worth it, but perhaps it was necessary for my well being. Before I turned 18, flexing my influence was the most important thing to me. Not in a vane way, but so that I could ensure any plans I involved myself in could not be interrupted. It is difficult to fully invest oneself in anything when you know at any point you could find yourself set back to square one. They are still awesome parents though.
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On May 02 2013 22:50 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:49 Chaggi wrote:On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well for someone who says he's smart, but complains that his parents are "the worst parents in the world" because they don't let you play video games.... lol Its more a thing of justice. Read the whole thing then tell me whos right and whos wrong
Well you admitted that you, screamed at your parents for 10 minutes straight because they wouldn’t let you watch or play SC2, sooooo…I am gong to side with them. Look, you might want to take it down a notch. Your parents don’t really care about SC2 or video games, they care about the 10 minute screaming thing. That is not normal behavior and it is likely what they are concerned with.
Having been 16 and 21 and 25, all the way up to 33. If I had to pass on one piece of advice to people that are young than me, its: “The sooner you admit you know nothing, the soon the world treats you with respect.” This theory is also approved by Adam Savage, and he is smarter than all of us.
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I play both starcraft brood war as well as starcraft 2. It´s the first and only game i´ve ever had a passion for (besides DoTa, i played a lot of that as well) and i´ve played over 2.5k sc2 games.
You've played just as many or more SC2 games as I've played video games... Thats a few years span vs my life to date. Your parents are trying to help you, quit ranting. Also, don't pay attention to what other people do with their lives... You have no idea where they're going to end up.
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Your parents love you. Pay it back by respecting their opinions.
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Myself, having come from parents that are very educated compared to the average 50 year old around Europe and America and also relatively reasonable when it comes to life philosophy, personal choice and other similar things I pity people in your position.
Since about 6-8 years the only way my parents ever "denied" me anything was if they thought I was in risk of physical/legal harm from doing it and if I actually needed their help ( aka money ) to do said thing. It does seems unreasonable to me for someone not to be allowed sitting on a computer as much as they want because it's the modern equivalent of not letting a kid to read books.
You could try to reason with them, collect information about why what you are doing is damaging to you in any way, why them watching tv isn't different from you watching a video game. If that doesn't work than get people to help you.
If you say you are one of the "smart kids" than you might not have a lot of "bro" type friends you can get involved in helping you but you do have a lot more leverage with school personal, talk with the counselor ( if you have one ) or with a psychology teacher that knows you and that is ether young or that you know is open minded, have them call your parents to come to school and tell them ( as in " I overheard you son talking about this" ) about the fact that they should let you do what you want more because you need to learn to be somewhat independent and need to make your own life choices.
Other than that I can only say that if this is true I am sad for you, this kind of bullshit is simply the result of young people like you thinking they ( you ) know jack when they don't and older people thinking they know any better ( a few examples of those right in this thread as well ) because they are older when instead they might just know less because their education is outdated and their mindset less open to new ideas.
If only we could listen to good ol'Socrates more, there is a reason why most respected thinkers in the last 3000 years decided to put "philo" before "sophy" when they described themselves.
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It's blogs like these that make me really be so grateful my dad was awesome and still is lol. I feel for you I would hate it if my parents (will dad) was anything like your parents xD.
On May 03 2013 00:07 Holo82 wrote:
Hey guy. be happy to be able to visit a gymnasium and live at your parents, at the age of 16. The majority of young male this age are working as apprentice at some odd job.
Be grateful your parent still feed you, you are freaking 16. They could just decide" our boy is only causing stress, you are old enough to live on your own, move out and stop disturbing our lives".
No they can't. Maybe where you live but in the US that's 18 years old not 16.
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Try not to read this in this sense that I'm trying to antagonize you.
Instead of viewing your your parents actions from the perspective that they are just being assholes, look at what may be causing them to resort to such actions. You mentioned that SC has a negative effect on your emotional state, so from an objective point of view it seems quite reasonable that they would want to limit your access to it. I understand that it can be difficult to detach your ego from such issues, but if you are anywhere near as mature and intelligent as you repeatedly claim to be, then it should be possible. Once you understand the areas in which you need to improve or correct your path (if you don't find anything then you've fucked up), the next step is discussing it with your parents.
There are two different scenarios which can play out at this point, and I'm reluctant to state the second one. First, if your parents are remotely rational human beings, which I would tend to assume is the case, then the process is simple. Discuss these issues, and at all times emphasize two things. If at any point the confrontation becomes heated, you will need to display that you are capable of being more mature than your parents. Do not raise your voice, no matter how much you want to. If they are frothing at the mouth while you are sitting there like Keanu Reeves attempting to calmly discuss things, then it reframes the interaction as you being the mature party. They will begin to see and feel this change, and if they don't change their behaviour then you read the second scenario. Do not cut them off, and make sure that they are able to say everything they want to before you begin speaking. If your parents are prone to talking over you, then calmly point out that you let them speak without interruption and you would like the same respect. This will also reframe them as being immature. Avoid doing these things in an antagonistic manner, as once again, the purpose is to calm them down and act as the mature person.
The final step is simply understanding how to achieve outcomes in such discussions. To paraphrase from a section of the book "Influence", if you are not prepared to make consolations, then you will have little success in achieving your favourable outcomes. Let me rephrase that. Be prepared to make consolations, and stick by them. The purpose of this discussion is not to prove who is right or wrong, but to achieve outcomes which are suitable to both parties. Hopefully my advice as given you somewhat of a rubric to approach this issue in this way.
I will now explain why I'm reluctant to state the second scenario. In this case, your parents truly are tyrannical and irrational as human beings. I don't mean this in the sense that you view them as such from your clearly subjective point of view. I mean that they are actually incapable of having reasonable discussions, and will proceed to act like children even if you follow everything laid out above to a T. This is almost certainly not the case, and I don't like even mentioning it because, since it sounds like you already falsely assume them as such. Either way give them the benefit of the doubt at least once. In the event that this is actually true, then I have only one piece of advice for you. Move out as soon as possible. In my case, my Brother moved out when he was 16, and I moved out when I was 17 due to disagreements with our stepfather. He is an alcoholic with a severely traumatic childhood, and is actually incapable of having reasonable discussions due to his alcoholism and mental problems. I don't say this because I want your pity, I'm saying this to hopefully give you some kind of reference for what I'm talking about.
Good luck man.
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hahahaha everything you say is just so cute
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God knows I can sympathize. You sound like my son Colin.
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OP
Read what rad301 wrote and shut up.
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[QUOTE]On May 03 2013 05:26 Aterons_toss wrote:
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I am much in agreement here as my life relates to this very much so as well. My parents never really set limits on me for anything just because they had the authority to. Your parents sound like they are trying to protect you from something, but they don't really know what and are too set in their ways to even care to find a reason. They just "know" that what you're doing is wrong. I would hate to have parents so limiting and restrictive that you can't argue with them over anything without being punished or receiving the standard "no" response every time.
Yesterday I was debating with my dad about Jason Collins (sp?) and we were both telling each other our opinions and reasons for thinking in such a way. Even though we both disagreed a bit on the topic, I was glad I had the opportunity to debate with him. We both respected each other and learned why we both thought the way we thought about the topic. Unfortunately I don't see the kind of relationship that I have with my parents for you. They are very open, and I love that they are like that. The way you describe your parents sounds like it's their way or no way. I wouldn't expect to ever have a friendly, casual relationship with them the way I do with my parents.
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my best friend in high school, Andy, had the shit kicked out of him by his genetic parents almost every day from the time he was 2 until the time he was 10.
His mother's sister then took over custody and care for him at age 10.
From age 10 until about .. ooo.. 20 he held a rage inside him that few people who have never been physically abused can understand.
quit feeling sorry for yourself.
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why did you capitalize the T in Dota, its just a "the"
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CA10828 Posts
you are a dumb teenager. end of story.
when i was 16 i thought similarly, although without the yelling at my parents for 10 minutes part. now that i'm 25 i see my parents were right, and i was dumb. you will have a similar epiphany within the next 10 years or so. you will look back at your temper tantrums and realize just exactly how immature and foolish you are being right now.
and if you're in denial about what i said, that merely furthers my point.
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Sucks that your parents just won't let you do any of that at all, but yeah, whiny teenager basically. You'll be fine. They only want what's good for you.
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You're a moron.. a lot of us grew up without parents or in broken homes.. I despise entitled brats like you.
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Meh, I think people are forgetting it's the OP's life and it's now or never, he's not going to live forever. He just wants to live while he's alive.
Quite frankly, I was the same before. My heart was like an open highway, and like FrankerZ said I did it my way. I think you better stand tall when they're calling you out. Don't bend, don't break and don't back down.
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Or just listen to everyone else. That might be better. You've got to hold on to what you got, ready or not.
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If have like a 4.0 and you're involved with sports, I don't see why it matters so much what you do with your free time. It's weird that you're parents are so draconian with the computer but they don't sound like bad people by any means.
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They are using the opportunity to study abroad as some kind of 'punishment?'
best parents ever
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On May 03 2013 16:25 Jibba wrote:
Meh, I think people are forgetting it's the OP's life and it's now or never, he's not going to live forever. He just wants to live while he's alive.
Quite frankly, I was the same before. My heart was like an open highway, and like FrankerZ said I did it my way. I think you better stand tall when they're calling you out. Don't bend, don't break and don't back down.
A lot of TLers are probably too young to get this.
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On May 03 2013 16:25 Jibba wrote:
Meh, I think people are forgetting it's the OP's life and it's now or never, he's not going to live forever. He just wants to live while he's alive.
Quite frankly, I was the same before. My heart was like an open highway, and like FrankerZ said I did it my way. I think you better stand tall when they're calling you out. Don't bend, don't break and don't back down.
lol jibba beast mode
@OP: calm down. Yes I know video games are fun, but your parents aren't anywhere close to "the worst in the world." Try finding another hobby which doesn't involve staring at a computer all day. Alternatively, if you're so good at math, try learning some higher math.
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Someone needs a good spanking.
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Thanks a lot for all the replies. While i agree with a lot of you i still think that some of you are getting the wrong picture. For example those saying that i am spoiled: Considering i live in Switzerland, which is a very wealthy country, i'd say im the exact opposite of spoiled. I am in the minority that doesn't have a smart phone or a computer. My grade average is above most kids in my school and one guy said something about higher mathematics: Currentlly im writing my maturity paper about complex numbers, quaternions and their relation to rotation of objects in space, so i fullfil my time with many different things.
@jibba. Awesome post. Made me chuckle although i dont listen to that much bon jovi.
To those saying that i should reason with my parents and discuss the matter. In this case it's: our way or the high way which basically means "no" to everything i say. There's no reasoning involved. I asked them many times to go to a counselor or psychologist so i could prove them wrong and every time they just brushed it off so i never got the chance to see what a doctor would say.
Also my parents are people that like authority as you might've notice. My mum is a teacher of chemistry in a gymnasium and my dad used to be a very high manager at HILTI in Liechtenstein so i guess that explains their philosophy.
Thanks for the posts i read through all of them and i'd be glad if you keep on posting
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Did you try writing them a poem ?
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since she cant take my mental torture anymore (actual words lol)
Lies.
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his parents are being arbitrary dicks to him
but he gotta understand its because they want the best for him
and anyway didnt he say that he's gonna be sent abroad for school
problem solved, play all the sc2 you want at school abroad
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On May 02 2013 22:44 onewaystyx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:40 Daumen wrote:
Sometimes Parents that are very demanding and pushing you to study pretty good, maybe youll see that later but I can definetely see your problem. No idea what you can do except wait until you are 18 and live on your own from then on out.
Edit to the people above me: Ye, "worst parents" is not adequate here at all, but hes 16, your allowed to be stupid at 16. For 16 im actually really really smart as well as grown up. I gotta cook a lot for myself and my younger sister since my parents work all the time also i gotta clean a lot of the house myself on saturdays. And im not stupid IQ over 140 and currently writing my maturity paper (dont know what that is in english :p) about mathematics :D probably gonna study it as well
Cleaning the house, yeah !! XD
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All this "worst parents ever" blogs are somewhat getting to me. In a world where families are absolutely broken, have alcoholic, drug-abusing, violent and constantly law-breaking parents, some people have the nerve to claim that having their Internet and gaming privileges qualifies them for having bad parents. Face it, your parents are legally bound to care for you until you are 18, and provide the electricity, computer and all your necessities, and yet you complain about, "My parents still refuse to let me play any video games".
Don't know about you, but think it over, and contemplate about how a parent should function, and in their position, how you should be helping the mental and physical welfare of their own child.
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@phoenixvoid
For the 50th time i live in Switzerland. Y having parents that are alcoholics and beat you sucks but realisticaly seen my parents are "bad" parents for where i live.
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On May 05 2013 02:17 onewaystyx wrote:
@phoenixvoid
For the 50th time i live in Switzerland. Y having parents that are alcoholics and beat you sucks but realisticaly seen my parents are "bad" parents for where i live.
Really I can understand why you are frustrated and angry because they don't keep their words and I can guess that it is not really possible for you to try to explain things to them from your point of view because they probably don't even listen but saying they are bad parents just for that... Maybe we can trade mine for yours ? I even give you all the money I have in the bank.. no kidding.
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Some of you seem to forget that just because OP is younger than 18, that doesn't mean his parents get to control every aspect of his life. He's a person too.
It sounds like he was physically assaulted by his father, and he is suffering emotional abuse as well. The former is illegal in the USA.
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typical 16 year old angsty teenager.
when i was 16 i was setting fire to stuff.
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This reminds me of a zulu or Raceilnatr blog post.
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Pro-tip.
If you're a teenager, no one cares on the internet.
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Northern Ireland25771 Posts
Meh, can never get a 'feel' for these things from reading accounts. I mean, the impression I get is that you kind of broke the arrangements made, but equally are frustrated because they dislike you playing SC2 because you don't see a reason why it's bad?
I hate 'my house, my rules', always have, even now. I mean, when it comes to seemingly arbitrary dislikes, rather than genuine issues of disrespect or whatever. For example, I've had friends were not allowed to play videogames by their folks because it's a 'waste of time', but who have no qualms letting them sit and melt their brains watching shitty TV, those kind of things are frustrating as hell, especially when you're younger.
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this has to be another one of those 'tl-mod dare/bet' posts.. SERIOUSLY.
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Cmon guys... his parents are obviously pretty unreasonable on the whole gaming matter.
Show them Thornzains Dreamhack victory, maybe they'll change their mind about SC2 not being a sport.
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