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United States1434 Posts
April 24 2013 01:29 GMT
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United States2957 Posts
April 24 2013 02:12 GMT
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Lately to the strategies, the counters have all been figured out in StarCraft, so I don’t think there’s more room for innovation and after years of experimentation and different play styles I think there's no longer more to discover.


I'd be very careful about saying that. Most people probably thought the same thing before Bisu/iloveoov/etc. all revolutionized the strategies used in BW.
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United States7572 Posts
April 24 2013 02:19 GMT
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On April 24 2013 11:12 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
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Lately to the strategies, the counters have all been figured out in StarCraft, so I don’t think there’s more room for innovation and after years of experimentation and different play styles I think there's no longer more to discover.


I'd be very careful about saying that. Most people probably thought the same thing before Bisu/iloveoov/etc. all revolutionized the strategies used in BW.


Sure, the major difference being that the most recent of those revolutions was 6 years of play ago. Games do get figured out.
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Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 24 2013 03:29 GMT
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On April 24 2013 11:19 sob3k wrote:
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On April 24 2013 11:12 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Lately to the strategies, the counters have all been figured out in StarCraft, so I don’t think there’s more room for innovation and after years of experimentation and different play styles I think there's no longer more to discover.


I'd be very careful about saying that. Most people probably thought the same thing before Bisu/iloveoov/etc. all revolutionized the strategies used in BW.


Sure, the major difference being that the most recent of those revolutions was 6 years of play ago. Games do get figured out.

Fantasy and Flash both revolutionized Terran play in their own ways. JD did the same for zerg. Even later the Woonjin zergs started to show viable queen play. The game is still evolving, albeit at a slower pace with a smaller player pool. Also PvT is fine, the balance is largely map dependent.
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Sweden2870 Posts
April 24 2013 05:18 GMT
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On April 24 2013 12:29 Scarecrow wrote:
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On April 24 2013 11:19 sob3k wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:12 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Lately to the strategies, the counters have all been figured out in StarCraft, so I don’t think there’s more room for innovation and after years of experimentation and different play styles I think there's no longer more to discover.


I'd be very careful about saying that. Most people probably thought the same thing before Bisu/iloveoov/etc. all revolutionized the strategies used in BW.


Sure, the major difference being that the most recent of those revolutions was 6 years of play ago. Games do get figured out.

Fantasy and Flash both revolutionized Terran play in their own ways. JD did the same for zerg. Even later the Woonjin zergs started to show viable queen play. The game is still evolving, albeit at a slower pace with a smaller player pool. Also PvT is fine, the balance is largely map dependent.


He probably thinks TvP is T favoured on Fighting Spirit
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Canada297 Posts
April 24 2013 06:01 GMT
#6
On April 24 2013 12:29 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 11:19 sob3k wrote:
On April 24 2013 11:12 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Lately to the strategies, the counters have all been figured out in StarCraft, so I don’t think there’s more room for innovation and after years of experimentation and different play styles I think there's no longer more to discover.


I'd be very careful about saying that. Most people probably thought the same thing before Bisu/iloveoov/etc. all revolutionized the strategies used in BW.


Sure, the major difference being that the most recent of those revolutions was 6 years of play ago. Games do get figured out.

Fantasy and Flash both revolutionized Terran play in their own ways. JD did the same for zerg. Even later the Woonjin zergs started to show viable queen play. The game is still evolving, albeit at a slower pace with a smaller player pool. Also PvT is fine, the balance is largely map dependent.

I was going to say that Bisu's standardization (he didn't invent it) of the Forge FE opener was the last big change to fundamental openers, but then I remembered that standardized 1 rax FE TvP (by Flash) is relatively recent and a big change in early game TvP.
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