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So as I have learned from previous experience, Teamliquid is the absolute best place to ask for advice, especially when it comes to girls and business/finances. Fortunately, my problem has nothing to do with those!
I'm having troubles staying awake. For the past 2-3 years I have been sleeping on average 12 hours a day, and I'm currently near 14 hours a day for the past few weeks. It is affecting my QUALITY OF LIFE. I never feel well rested and I'm always in a foggy state of mind. Before anyone makes quick speculations, I have gone through sleep studies and they do not think I have sleep apnea or anything else that could be causing my sleep to be of low quality. I enter REM and everything just fine. So I'm getting the sleep, but I'm not feeling it. This is not always how I have been, as I got through the day perfectly fine with 5-7 hours of sleep during High School / College. I currently only have a mid-day obligation that I have to wake up for and it is extremely hard to get myself awake and drive to it everyday.
Some other relevant info that I think is important is... I don't think I have narcolepsy, and I don't think I'm depressed. I have tried many times to "break the cycle" and get to sleep at a normal time and set a schedule of an 8 hour sleep and no matter how hard I try my body just doesn't want to move on at a certain point through the day and I go back to sleep before I can wait until night again. To best describe my sleep schedule, I sleep from like 6-7am to 12-1pm everyday for the most part. And then I take a nap from 4-5pm to 9-10pm, sometimes longer. And wait, it isn't FUCKING FINISHED YET. Then sometimes I even manage to sleep from 12-1am to 3-4am, but that widely varies from an hour of sleep to maybe four. This is just how my body decides "yo faust time to shut off".
It isn't as much as "I can't move and I'm extremely tired" as much as it is everything becomes extremely dull to me and I feel very fatigued. I won't feel like eating, playing video games, or moving. The only thing that feels good to me is getting in bed and then when I wake up I feel at the very least a little bit recharged to actually put effort into something. I do exercise, and I am pretty fit. Maybe not as active as most people on Teamliquid but I'm at a very healthy weight, maybe a bit on the skinny side. I eat okay (not very healthy but I wouldn't say terrible - I eat my veggies and meats and grains. I drink tea quite a bit, and average 1-3 beers a day) and I do move around.
Anyways, this is really bothering me and I probably made a blog similar to this before but it is ruining my LIFE. I am going to die as a person who slept most of their life away. It is my dream goal to average 4-6 hours of sleep a night. I think I can function on less sleep, I know I did before. All of this fatigue and sleepy feelings are making me not want to be social, play games, or do anything. I have even been thinking about possibly getting Vyvanse or just something to keep me awake for a few days so I can power through it and get on a schedule with the help of drugs I guess. That is my only option imo atm! Anyone have this problem or experience or something?
Thnx.
 
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I did, he told me to come here.
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If I read this correctly, you go to sleep at 7 in the morning?
If you really do then I would immediately point to that as the cause of your problem.
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On April 17 2013 05:54 SCC-Faust wrote:
I did, he told me to come here.
A competent physician would not be sending you to an internet forum to seek help about issues that are "affecting [your] QUALITY OF LIFE" after a meeting with them.
In addition, the fact that your original post talks about self-medicating with amphetamines and other controlled substances speaks to the fact that you really should see a doctor.
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Despite the harsh critisms, I also face the same problem, so if you find a solution please update. I find that mostly its because I am slightly overweight, but when I exercise I actually feel well rested afterwards.
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On April 17 2013 06:28 solidbebe wrote:
If I read this correctly, you go to sleep at 7 in the morning?
If you really do then I would immediately point to that as the cause of your problem.
Yup.
Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor of any sort.
Given the information presented, I'm pretty sure there are a number of things that aren't 'right'. Your diet sounds pretty bad. Just because you're not overweight doesn't mean you're healthy. Eating some amount of 'meat veggies and grains' doesn't mean you're eating right either. I could eat a couple slices of bread in the morning and a chipotle burrito for dinner and skip lunch and that's meat veggies and grain, but certainly not ideal in the long run. And while we're talking about food, averaging 1-3 beers a day doesn't sound good either. Actually it sounds horrid. Whether you're actually having a beer every day or downing 30 beers in a weekend of partying, it can't possibly be good for you. The way you describe your life isn't really like depression, but a lot more like just plain unmotivated and lazy, which also leads people to do nothing but sleep.
If this sleep thing is really ruining your life, you're probably going to need to change your life style. I don't know why you're sleeping at 7am, but unless you're working a graveyard shift or something, there's no excuse for sleeping that late. Get a real diet, and get some real exercise every day, because it doesn't sound like you're doing enough. If you're not sweating and sore every so often, do more. Pick up an active hobby. Get busy.
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On April 17 2013 06:28 itsjustatank wrote:A competent physician would not be sending you to an internet forum to seek help about issues that are "affecting [your] QUALITY OF LIFE" after a meeting with them. In addition, the fact that your original post talks about self-medicating with amphetamines and other controlled substances speaks to the fact that you really should see a doctor.
Okay, I know when to man up and admit I lied about the doctor telling me to post here. You caught me. It was all a fucking ruse damn you. Every single letter connected to every single word.
Anyways, the reason why I posted it here is because I've already been to a doctor a few times and I have had 2 sleep studies done in the past 6 years. They see nothing "medically" wrong with me and they do not wish to help me further because it is out of their expertise. So I dunno, maybe it is a psychological problem, or maybe I need more willpower and determination. So I posted here in hopes that someone else experiences this problem and they found a solution that works for them and I can apply it to myself. Or maybe someone just has some vague knowledge on the subject of oversleeping that I can make use of.
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You could do some internet research on hypersomnolence and excessive daytime sleepiness but really (as a healthcare professional myself) you need to see a physician.
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Excessive sleeping could be like a tumor or something wrong with your glands. How old are you? I am 28 now and I can operate on like 5 hours a sleep a night, or around 40 a week and that is with having an active schedules of work, working out, etc.
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On April 17 2013 07:04 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Excessive sleeping could be like a tumor or something wrong with your glands. How old are you? I am 28 now and I can operate on like 5 hours a sleep a night, or around 40 a week and that is with having an active schedules of work, working out, etc.
I have hypothyroidism if that counts but I got my levels checked a few months ago and it is under control w/ medication.
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Notwithstanding potential medical problems, it sounds like you don't have any kind of daily regimen. People who work an 8 hour day do not sleep 14 hours each night. If you wake up at the same time every morning and keep yourself active (mentally) throughout the day, you will notice a difference.
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On April 17 2013 05:54 SCC-Faust wrote:
I did, he told me to come here.
Ok, this is hilarious.
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there is something called light entrainment for your circadian rhythm. going to sleep about the time when the sun rises doesn't sound like the ideal thing considering your circadian rhythm can be/is adjusted by light.
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- Daily strenuous exercise, no more than an hour flatout is needed (enjoy your newfound fitness too)
- Go to bed at the same time every night, 10-11 for most is fine.
- Set your alarm for 6 or 7, get out of bed then and don't go back (if you end up dozing off out of bed, so be it, it should pass)
- No drugs at all, including caffeine/alcohol
- Good breakfast, smaller dinner, and general good dieting habits
If you do all this you will sleep properly. Chances are you won't, and you'll keep blaming something else other than a lack of motivation.
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if you're a normal person 8 hours per night is enough for you. stop making weak ass excuses like "my body just wants to sleep" because thats how every fucking person feels when they wake up for work or something. When that fucking alarm rings you get out of your bed, shower/eat, and go outside. Doesnt matter if you dont have a job, just go somewhere wher sleeping is not an option. Again, if you are a normal person this is a question of willpower. BE A (WO)MAN
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You normally fall asleep at 12:00-1:00am, right?
Set your alarm to 10:00am. Then sleep at 12:00am. Your current sleep schedule will have you waking up at around 3:00am, but keep lying down, put your head down, sleep. Do NOT get up until your alarm rings.
Get up at 10:00am, and no matter what, do NOT sleep until 12:00am. There are many ways to keep yourself awake. Personally I also feel incredibly drowsy around 4:00pm... slap yourself, take a cold water shower, exercise, play StarCraft 2, watch an extremely exciting show, find some way to stay awake.
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Sounds like your life is too boring. I get the same way when I have nothing going on - sleeps for 12 hours, feel muzzy when awake.
When interesting stuff happens, instantly change to 4-8 hours sleep and being awake feels awesome, hell can work 14 hour days and not feel tired at the end.
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On April 17 2013 07:46 Rollin wrote:
If you do all this you will sleep properly. Chances are you won't, and you'll keep blaming something else other than a lack of motivation.
Pretty dumb assumption. I do lack motivation but when I put my mind to something I can accomplish it. Despite sleeping a lot I always manage to accomplish my obligations without fail. I mean I made this blog expecting criticism and ready to accept it, especially when I want to make a big change like this. But I'm not naive, I know it isn't going to change magically over night with no effort.
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I personally think most of it has to do with your current setting in life. You admitted that when you were busy with school you had no problem following a regular sleep schedule, but now that you have basically no obligations in life, you have no reason to get up. Secondly, its pretty easy to become depressed and not want to do anything when you first wake up if you have nothing in life to do. A job for most people is what keeps you getting out of bed in the morning. Not having anything can lead to a person not caring to do anything.
I think you should exercise better willpower, and pull yourself out of bed whether you want to or not. Many people, myself included feel tired throughout most of the day. Thats the downside of working / being busy. You just deal with it and try to carry on until bed time.
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