• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:48
CEST 11:48
KST 18:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup5StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)66Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2316
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? October World Ranking: herO stays #1, ByuN returns StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released Bot on ladder BSL Season 23 BW General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 2v2v2v2 Tournament [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11986 users

Hotkeys... AGAIN!

Blogs > HaeHei
Post a Reply
HaeHei
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom162 Posts
March 19 2013 19:17 GMT
#1
Hi Everyone,

As i talked about using the chameleon hotkey setup i've changed a little bit to fit how i used to play on my old hotkey setup! (BTW thanks slowbacontron you've put a bit of insight on how to get used to the hotkey setup and have replied to me thanks! <3)

Anyways its simples for me its not really a change on the actually hotkey setup, but the mentality of where my units and buildings go... i'll explain....

On my old hotkey setup i had 6 as my hatches or and 5 as queens or as playing terran buildings and would tab through them e.g. i have factory and rax in same hotkey group and would just press tab. Well with how the spreadsheet showed, it showed D as hatches/CC and G as army and F as Rax etc...

I was kinda getting used to it but found my fingers would keep adding units or buildings to the hotkey groups by mistake which is a huge pain! So i decided to change it to G as my CC/hatches and F as my Rax/Fac and D as army which is kinda the same as my old setup with how i used to control my army and macro...

Well it seems to be going well but some of the other hotkey groups for harassing and scouting seem a bit more further away now...

What do you guys recommened do the switch i just made and make sure to stick to it and maybe move some of the other group hotkeys closer or just go back to how i started learning the chameleon hotkey setup and just try to not add units into the building control groups?

(BTW i played a diamond zerg and almost beat him just need to work on mechanics and macro more! thanks for the advice guys who replied from my other blog!)

Thanks everyone for reading and happy gaming!

Humans are weak. For every cure found, another disease is uncovered. It's a game of chase.
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
March 20 2013 02:27 GMT
#2
Hey, i play zerg as well.

I have 1-6 as control groups, r, f and g as control groups 7-9. F2-F9 as camera hotkeys, spacebar for base camera. I bind my queens to r,f, and g.

To be honest my hotkey setup is absolutely terrible atm. I think ideally you want to use base camera injects, where you bind all your queens, base camera, and inject to three consecutive keys and just cycle through them to inject your larva. I do believe this will be faster than JUST using base camera which a lot of korean zergs are doing. I guess I'll have to really test it out once I have free time...
YO
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 07:38:42
March 20 2013 07:32 GMT
#3
Unfortunately, I have no expertise on how to play Zerg, but I can share how I use my control groups as Terran: F for CCs and upgrades, D for unit production buildings, and mainly E,R,G for army (if I ever get good enough to use multiple groups for my army ) In fact, I just looked at the spreadsheet myself, and, well, that's the recommended usage of the groups. I feel that the CCs and production groups are the MOST important groups in one's gameplay, so putting them on the homekeys is probably the best idea. As for accidentally adding units/building to groups, yes, I have done that before. It's annoying, but I believe it goes away once you're used to playing with the groups.

Anyway, I'm happy to help whenever I can!

@FrogsAreDogs If you ever want to change your hotkey setup to one that is developed by someone who's put extensive research and work into it, take a look at TheCore, Chameleon, and/or Darkgrid.
jjakji fan
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
March 21 2013 06:23 GMT
#4
Hi,
I have seen those layouts, and frankly they are terrible lol. Those layouts are really really good at making a few things extremely efficient, such as clustering control groups and abilities close together, but they completely ignore some aspects of game mechanics such as camera hotkeys. Another thing to consider is that although all your hotkeys/control groups are close together, when you are performing multiple different actions you don't them to be arranged in such a way that you end up using only a few fingers for most of the keys.

That's why I dislike TheCore for example, since it has most control groups spread horizontally to the right. Accessing each group is fast for sure, but only for your index finger. So when you want to quickly go through multiple control groups you are pretty much stuck with spamming just one finger.
YO
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 7069
Horang2 559
Hyuk 435
BeSt 387
Stork 166
sorry 98
Killer 94
Hyun 78
Shinee 71
Pusan 69
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 59
Bonyth 46
Snow 42
Bale 38
Hm[arnc] 33
JYJ 24
Sacsri 12
Noble 6
Mind 1
League of Legends
JimRising 481
Other Games
gofns35223
singsing1980
ArmadaUGS79
Mew2King75
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick702
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream138
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 56
• Adnapsc2 25
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2322
League of Legends
• Lourlo1257
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12m
CranKy Ducklings1
INu's Battles
2h 12m
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5h 12m
MilkiCow vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
BSL Open Qualifier
9h 12m
BSL Open Qualifier
9h 12m
Replay Cast
13h 12m
Afreeca Starleague
1d
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
1d 1h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
2 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Copium Cup
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.