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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 06 2013 04:03 GMT
#101
unfortunately life isn't as simple as knowing you are right and they are "retards" and not caring. I do care that people have the wrong idea and I speak out about it.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 04:10:48
February 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#102
Hmm.. it can be that simple, just don't mind. These are people that:

-Don't know you, or only do so through the internet
-Are under the anonymity of the internet
-Many just like to troll around the internet and piss people off to waste their apparently unlimited time

The second point is the most important imo, since most of the same people that bash and insult you over this wouldn't even think about it if it was an actual conversation, people are idiots when covered by the internet, much more so than they are in real life.

Hell, if I paid attention to the shit Dota 2 players spout every second I'd be depressed and crying right now. It probably makes very little difference addressing the issue in this manner since most people don't change opinions based on the internet, most just post and forget, and don't extract anything at all, it seems to be the nature of online communities.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12521 Posts
February 06 2013 04:27 GMT
#103
well it's not difficult to see why people are upset.
For those people who bought stuff from SS to support EG, what you did is just like saying "well we aren't with SS now, why are you still using SS stuff?" I know it's NOT what you intend to do/show/hint, but that is what is is for some people.

The bigger problem however, is in the future if you are ever going to make any compliment about your razer products, you as a past heavy SS user, you are making them in relation to the SS products.
People will ask you which brand is better eventually and how will you answer it?

Are you gonna say they are both equally good? Is this answer good for the sponsor?
Razer is better? Will people trust you now that you are sponsored by Razor and you said good things about SS when you were sponsored?
SS is better? I am not sure if your sponsor would like that. lol

What's worse is if it ever gets to individual products. You are gonna be facing tonnes of these questions and I hope you are ready for them.

All the best incontrol, I personally think Razor is better :p
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 04:47:08
February 06 2013 04:45 GMT
#104
On February 06 2013 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:
unfortunately life isn't as simple as knowing you are right and they are "retards" and not caring. I do care that people have the wrong idea and I speak out about it.


Do you care because it potentially affects your livelihood as a celebrity or because you personally feel insulted?

Frankly, the second reason doesn't make much sense to me. I'd advise you to look at some basic stoic philosophy:

Almost 2000 years ago, Epictetus wrote:
If someone handed over your body to any person who met you, you would be vexed; but that you hand over your mind to any person that comes along, so that, if he reviles you, it is disturbed and troubled–are you not ashamed of that?


The idea being we recognize that giving over control of our body's fate (the result possibly being slavery or death) is obviously seen as a bad thing. But giving over control of our emotional state to a stranger is for some reason considered normal - but it's actually a foolish and weak-willed thing to do.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
infinitycomplex
Profile Joined February 2013
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 08:25:25
February 07 2013 08:24 GMT
#105
http://www.twitch.tv/incontroltv/b/354047823

11:25

Can't believe I am the only person who saw this.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
February 07 2013 16:18 GMT
#106
On February 07 2013 17:24 infinitycomplex wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/incontroltv/b/354047823

11:25

Can't believe I am the only person who saw this.


Lots of people have difficulty using other people's equipment? Particularly if you have to deal with a new resolution/DPI setting, throwing off your muscle memory for micro, things like that. Perhaps no one mentioned that bit of streaming because it's not terribly relevant.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 07 2013 16:39 GMT
#107
On February 07 2013 17:24 infinitycomplex wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/incontroltv/b/354047823

11:25

Can't believe I am the only person who saw this.


You registered simply so you could link to a part where incontrol thinks razer / alienware gear is shitty because its not the gear he's used to?

You're a little weird.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Eskiya23
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands105 Posts
February 07 2013 17:19 GMT
#108
On February 08 2013 01:39 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 17:24 infinitycomplex wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/incontroltv/b/354047823

11:25

Can't believe I am the only person who saw this.


You registered simply so you could link to a part where incontrol thinks razer / alienware gear is shitty because its not the gear he's used to?

You're a little weird.


Instead of questioning the puppets on the strings, you question this user who dug up something from the archives to shed some light on the matter? Keep on trucking.

Be it jokingly, be it serious; if you endorse X brand, you dont go around saying Y is bad. You politely thank brand X for sponsoring them and go on.
Avoids contradicting oneself later on when suddenly brand Y brings your food on the table.
Wisdom. Judgement. Execution. Stream: twitch.tv/eskiyasc2 Twitter: @EskiyaSC
aisight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
February 08 2013 00:36 GMT
#109
On February 08 2013 02:19 Eskiya23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 01:39 PanN wrote:
On February 07 2013 17:24 infinitycomplex wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/incontroltv/b/354047823

11:25

Can't believe I am the only person who saw this.


You registered simply so you could link to a part where incontrol thinks razer / alienware gear is shitty because its not the gear he's used to?

You're a little weird.


Instead of questioning the puppets on the strings, you question this user who dug up something from the archives to shed some light on the matter? Keep on trucking.

Be it jokingly, be it serious; if you endorse X brand, you dont go around saying Y is bad. You politely thank brand X for sponsoring them and go on.
Avoids contradicting oneself later on when suddenly brand Y brings your food on the table.

...He didn't go around saying Y is bad? incontrol pretty much immediately clarified on his statement in that very same stream archive that the gear itself wasn't shitty, simply a shitty experience going from what you're used to to something completely different.
mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
February 09 2013 08:59 GMT
#110
On February 08 2013 09:36 aisight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 02:19 Eskiya23 wrote:
On February 08 2013 01:39 PanN wrote:
On February 07 2013 17:24 infinitycomplex wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/incontroltv/b/354047823

11:25

Can't believe I am the only person who saw this.


You registered simply so you could link to a part where incontrol thinks razer / alienware gear is shitty because its not the gear he's used to?

You're a little weird.


Instead of questioning the puppets on the strings, you question this user who dug up something from the archives to shed some light on the matter? Keep on trucking.

Be it jokingly, be it serious; if you endorse X brand, you dont go around saying Y is bad. You politely thank brand X for sponsoring them and go on.
Avoids contradicting oneself later on when suddenly brand Y brings your food on the table.

...He didn't go around saying Y is bad? incontrol pretty much immediately clarified on his statement in that very same stream archive that the gear itself wasn't shitty, simply a shitty experience going from what you're used to to something completely different.


That's true, but it definitely sounded like he was being more honest in his assessment at first, and the clarification was only to mitigate some of the backlash.

Honest guess would be that he thought it was shitty, but was willing to consider the possibility that a part of the reason was he wasn't used to it.
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
February 10 2013 01:29 GMT
#111
No reason to hate on you just because your team switched sponsors. Business is business. It's refreshing to see personalities like you to share their bit of thoughts on the subject though, even more so of value, when they are honest and to the point, instead of just some suger-coated PR.

Best of luck.
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
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