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Emzeeshady
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Emzeeshady
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catplanetcatplanet
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iirc in the ABL it was stated that part of the reason you were banned may have been several warnings in quick succession. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 07:05 p4NDemik wrote: I'm not sure why you would make posts with the expressed purpose of testing moderation policies. That seems like a rather banal usage of your precious time considering you can get the same data by just posting normally. I follow this thread and answer questions like this when they arise, but sometimes I don't understand why anyone would want to spend so much time solely to observe and test our moderation policies. It's a bit odd. The entire nature of this thread can be quite odd at times I suppose but hey, its your time to waste. Anyways, I'll give you my interpretation of your moderation history in the interest of you posting because you have something your really want to say, rather than toeing the line just for the hell of it. + Show Spoiler [Warning #1] + You are an idiot Terran foreigners will still suck Korean Terrans will still dominate You first warning back in December was for a blatant insult and player bashing. It was your first offense, thus a warning. + Show Spoiler [Warning #2] + Lol how much time do you spend on this site making stupid posts? Second warning, same thing, insults and flaming. This is still a relatively minor offense and mods don't like to ban for something so petty. + Show Spoiler [Ban #1] + On December 10 2012 09:32 Emzeeshady wrote: you are so full of shit User was temp banned for this post. First ban as you continue to insult other posters. Barring some kind of selective memory loss you should have a crystal clear idea that this type of infraction is not acceptable. + Show Spoiler [Warning #3] + Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs This is an example of a post that is truly stupid. In the warning it is pointed out that the mod had already told you to cut it out. Again, this is your encounter with moderation concerning an issue. You should understand posts like this that say nothing and just take up space are not acceptable. A number of your other posts that required mod action are 1-liners that just have no purpose other than insulting another poster, stating your general apathy ("where is the I don't give a shit poll?"), or your expectations of seeing more bans coming from the mods. I could go on but it seems clear to me that the breakdown in communication is not on our side here. Source | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 07:30 dAPhREAk wrote: provide links to the posts and I will check to see if they were even reported. if they werent reported, they may have just escaped notice. Good point. | ||
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Emzeeshady
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brian
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dAPhREAk
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On January 14 2013 05:34 Emzeeshady wrote: Cloud is hardly a professional. Don't you have to get some form of results to be classified as professional. not reported. On January 30 2013 03:00 Emzeeshady wrote: I am sorry if this sounds insulting but what is wrong with you and why are you so angry? not reported. reported. On January 19 2013 12:09 Emzeeshady wrote: As someone who plays all three races at around low masters level I would have to say Toss is BY FAR the easiest to play followed by Terran and Zerg on equal footing. Zerg and Terran are hard for different reasons. Terran macro is much easier for me due to lifting bases, supply drop and reactors while hitting injects is hard for me. Micro wise Terran is harder because I can just go ling/bling Muta and a move. I struggle with using infestors and bio so I usually just go mech of ling/bling/muta for a move armies. Terran is not as hard as Terrans make it out to be but it is still much harder then toss (no macro required, mass warp in, colossus, lol?). Just my 2 cents. not reported. | ||
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dAPhREAk
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On February 01 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote: hmm interesting. I was not fully aware of the importance of reporting posts. Do mods looks through threads for bans or just wait for reports? If it is the latter then this makes a lot of sense. you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 08:06 dAPhREAk wrote: you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not. Cokefreak reads every post in every thread though and makes sure there are enough reports to keep the mods busy  | ||
Myles
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1st post - Harsh, but not really inaccurate. 2nd - Kind of a legitimate question due to his tangent, and in the ABL thread, which is probably a less moderated thread. 3rd - Again, ABL thread so it comes off as a joke, at least to me. 4th - Unlike being a dick, spamming isn't subjective. Warning is pretty much an automatic response. 5th - Could have gone either way really. I must have been in a good mood that day(I'm pretty sure I handled that). 6th - Another that could go either way. 7th - That must of not been reported because the last part isn't acceptable and I would have banned. 8th - Another that could go either way. But it's not malicious(or at least not obviously so considering this revelation) and so I decided to warn. 9th - Borderline. But saying anything should be nerfed, let alone an entire race, is an easy target. 10th - Not so sure why you're surprised here. Questioning mod actions outside website feedback is backseat modding and with your history(which was said in the reason) it was time for a ban. I'll agree that you could have gotten banned earlier, but I think it's just luck that you didn't. I know I handled a few of those reports, so maybe it's a hint I need to be less merciful  | ||
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Cokefreak
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On February 01 2013 08:08 JOJOsc2news wrote: Cokefreak reads every post in every thread though and makes sure there are enough reports to keep the mods busy Well I had to fill my time somehow as I cut down on the backseat moderating since you have taken up that role so well after your return. | ||
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Finally, continue improving upon your posting  , you should PM mods if you want advice on how to not get on their badside haha, and I'm glad you see the faults in your warnings. | ||
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Myles
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On February 01 2013 08:13 Emzeeshady wrote: ... Also as an additional note the 10th one was not a question of mod actions but rather a joke as how it was surprising no one made a sexist comment in that thread. I guess I can see that, but it's very easy to interpret it the other way. On February 01 2013 08:16 docvoc wrote: For your blog, this is how to not get banned like you were
Finally, continue improving upon your posting , you should PM mods if you want advice on how to not get on their badside haha, and I'm glad you see the faults in your warnings.Is this satire? | ||
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Falling
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On February 01 2013 08:16 docvoc wrote: For your blog, this is how to not get banned like you were
Finally, continue improving upon your posting , you should PM mods if you want advice on how to not get on their badside haha, and I'm glad you see the faults in your warnings.for no. 1, follow idra's strategy. he stopped calling people "retarded," and instead called them "less than intelligent," "intellectually challenged," or something to that effect, and he wasnt moderated for it. it was quite amusing. for some reason, "retard" gets banned but nicer ways of saying a person is a "retard" dont get moderated. | ||
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Myles
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edit: I guess considering I don't know this for sure I should say I highly doubt that it why. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 08:11 Cokefreak wrote: Well I had to fill my time somehow as I cut down on the backseat moderating since you have taken up that role so well after your return. Wait... let me go through my warnings. Let me check the folder "backseat moderating"... it's empty. Oh no wait... there is one file and it reads: Warned for: "This thread is going to be closed. Goodbye thread". So I guess I am guilty. Let me see your folder please. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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On February 01 2013 08:21 Falling wrote: Too few data points to be statistically meaningful. Are you suggesting he should try to keep trying to get himself banned? For .. science? Edit: Really: On February 01 2013 08:28 Myles wrote: That's not why he stopped getting warned/banned. Why did he then stop getting warned/banned? It sounds like a juicy bit of gossip. You can tell us here, it's a blog thread. Ain't nobody but us here. | ||
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Cokefreak
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On February 01 2013 08:29 JOJOsc2news wrote: Wait... let me go through my warnings. Let me check the folder "backseat moderating"... it's empty. Oh no wait... there is one file and it reads: Warned for: "This thread is going to be closed. Goodbye thread". So I guess I am guilty. Let me see your folder please. No warnings or bans for back seat moderating. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 08:31 Cokefreak wrote: No warnings or bans for back seat moderating. I believe you. Probably no mod notes either cough cough | ||
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dAPhREAk
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On April 27 2012 04:36 EvilTeletubby wrote: While we're at it, let's also put out a general warning against people who backseat moderate, some of you are quite guilty of that. *glares at Cokefreak* cough | ||
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Cokefreak
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Also damn Kaddy left me hanging with that comment, he could've at least told me how many notes does 'several' mean. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 08:39 Cokefreak wrote: Oh shit you found that, I tried and failed myself :D give me link please. Also damn Kaddy left me hanging with that comment, he could've at least told me how many notes does 'several' mean. Oh yeah... he never answered that question. What a tease... | ||
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derpface
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For example, hitting your children as a parent, most people think its bad, yes? Someone maybe wants to share a opinion about it and he isnt really against hitting your children as a parent and he writes "I hope I dont get banned for sharing my opinion". Because he know people might get pissed (mods included) cause normally people dont like parents hitting children and he might get outright banned just cause the opinion he wants to share. In essence he kind of means "excuse me for sharing my opinion...." But alas he gets banned just cause he wrote those little words and not actually because his opinion. I know its classed as "martying" but really, people can still post great just after writing those words and end up with a ban just cause its "martyring". Then other people can throw out hefty insult or a really bad post and it ends with them getting a simple warning. EVEN THOUGH their post in itself was way worse than the post the guy with the "I hope I dont get banned for sharing my opininon" did. "Martyring" is super strictly moderated and ends up with bans simply cause; "martyring", and sometimes its pretty fucked up really. Mods could maybe look a little deeper and look at the actual post instead of; OMFG MARTYING INSTANT BAN, cause thats how I feel the reaction is regarding "martying". | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On February 01 2013 08:08 Myles wrote: Some things you need to consider are that mods don't read every post in every thread instead relying mostly on reports, some threads are moderated differently then others, and different mods have different tipping points. But here we go. 1st post - Harsh, but not really inaccurate. 2nd - Kind of a legitimate question due to his tangent, and in the ABL thread, which is probably a less moderated thread. 3rd - Again, ABL thread so it comes off as a joke, at least to me. 4th - Unlike being a dick, spamming isn't subjective. Warning is pretty much an automatic response. 5th - Could have gone either way really. I must have been in a good mood that day(I'm pretty sure I handled that). 6th - Another that could go either way. 7th - That must of not been reported because the last part isn't acceptable and I would have banned. 8th - Another that could go either way. But it's not malicious(or at least not obviously so considering this revelation) and so I decided to warn. 9th - Borderline. But saying anything should be nerfed, let alone an entire race, is an easy target. 10th - Not so sure why you're surprised here. Questioning mod actions outside website feedback is backseat modding and with your history(which was said in the reason) it was time for a ban. I'll agree that you could have gotten banned earlier, but I think it's just luck that you didn't. I know I handled a few of those reports, so maybe it's a hint I need to be less merciful yeah, i remember when i backseated once and got tempbanned. was like a really heated flame/bash war between two ppl and i asked why they weren't banned yet. insta-temp ban. i dont know how bad your post has to be for a warning/ban nowadays because i rarely do anything stupid in my posts. but i see a lot of high post count people posting like one liner stuff that is pretty much useless to the thread and they never get warned or banned. ive always wanted to do that as well but i think that its like cause they are really high in posts. thoughts? | ||
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On February 01 2013 08:49 Cokefreak wrote: Martyring doesn't always get a ban, I've seen warnings and occasionally it goes completely unmoderated. Yeah I shouldnt maybe say to much, though those times I've seen it moderated it has almost always been banned for (lurked alot before I made the account). Multiple people even wondered and were against the ban cause they thought it was stupid to ban simply cause martyring, but yeah I ofcourse havent seen all martyring cases so I dunno.... | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 09:05 Cokefreak wrote: Well martyring is a ban 99% of the time so I think that does indeed make it the most hardly moderated offense a regular poster could make. See, that's what I don't get though. A regular poster should know about how martyring is being moderated. If you still choose to go for "I'm probably going to be banned for this.." then that's asking for it. | ||
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derpface
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On February 01 2013 09:05 Cokefreak wrote: Well martyring is a ban 99% of the time so I think that does indeed make it the most hardly moderated offense a regular poster could make. Yeah, thats the problem, that "offense" lol | ||
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On February 01 2013 09:10 JOJOsc2news wrote: See, that's what I don't get though. A regular poster should know about how martyring is being moderated. If you still choose to go for "I'm probably going to be banned for this.." then that's asking for it. Yes just like how we know that backseat moderating is not really accepted | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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On February 01 2013 09:13 Cokefreak wrote: Yes just like how we know that backseat moderating is not really accepted I'm actually not backseat moderating though... | ||
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farvacola
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On February 01 2013 09:25 StateOfDelusion wrote: You wasted a lot of time and a lot of words to point out what most of us already know: there is no consistent criteria. The state of delusion which you live in may have totalitarian tendencies. | ||
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Falling
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On February 01 2013 08:30 Ghanburighan wrote: Are you suggesting he should try to keep trying to get himself banned? For .. science? ....Maybe  | ||
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Emzeeshady
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, and that is probably a good thing for most of us (especially me, because I love emotes 
