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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 31 2013 22:25 GMT
#1
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
January 31 2013 22:28 GMT
#2
Add P4's response to you from ABL as a quote to this blog.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 22:31:32
January 31 2013 22:30 GMT
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 22:30 GMT
#4
provide links to the posts and I will check to see if they were even reported. if they werent reported, they may have just escaped notice.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 31 2013 22:32 GMT
#5
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
January 31 2013 22:33 GMT
#6
You should not be looking for a line between posts that do and don't require moderation. It looks like several of the mean and unnecessary posts above were testing the waters when you simply could have withheld yourself. Nobody likes a balance whiner whether or not they get banned.

iirc in the ABL it was stated that part of the reason you were banned may have been several warnings in quick succession.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 22:38:14
January 31 2013 22:37 GMT
#7
This is p4NDemik's response in the ABL:

On February 01 2013 07:05 p4NDemik wrote:
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On February 01 2013 06:18 Emzeeshady wrote:
I am awfully confused. This whole month I have been experimenting where the line was between an acceptable post, a warn and a ban. I have made quite a lot of posts trying to see what would get me banned but all I got were warnings. When I finally got banned though it was for a post where I wasn't trying to :/.

I guess I don't understand the moderation at all

I'm not sure why you would make posts with the expressed purpose of testing moderation policies. That seems like a rather banal usage of your precious time considering you can get the same data by just posting normally. I follow this thread and answer questions like this when they arise, but sometimes I don't understand why anyone would want to spend so much time solely to observe and test our moderation policies. It's a bit odd. The entire nature of this thread can be quite odd at times I suppose but hey, its your time to waste.

Anyways, I'll give you my interpretation of your moderation history in the interest of you posting because you have something your really want to say, rather than toeing the line just for the hell of it.

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On December 04 2012 05:36 Scholera wrote:
On December 04 2012 02:50 b0rt_ wrote:
On December 04 2012 02:43 Scholera wrote:
On December 04 2012 02:20 The KY wrote:
Remember when zerg was the weakest race and you couldn't go five minutes without hearing some Z threaten to switch to terran?

Not saying they're OP now, just being wistful.


No, I don't remember when Zerg was nearly as bad as Terran is now... I remember Fruitdealer winning a GSL and IdrA winnings MLGs, etc, but not 3 foreign zergs in a ro32 of a tournament and not making top 13.

lets hear how you'd improve foreign terrans to protoss and zerg level without making korean terrans godlike


Revert latest patches. back to 50/50

You are an idiot

Terran foreigners will still suck
Korean Terrans will still dominate

You first warning back in December was for a blatant insult and player bashing. It was your first offense, thus a warning.

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On December 10 2012 10:01 Dodgin wrote:
This game really shouldn't have been close, we should be halfway through game 4 by now.

Lol how much time do you spend on this site making stupid posts?

Second warning, same thing, insults and flaming. This is still a relatively minor offense and mods don't like to ban for something so petty.

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On December 10 2012 09:32 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On December 10 2012 09:28 Schelim wrote:
this was such a nice example of the state of this matchup. Polt kills all the tech, plays 10x better than sortof and... barely wins!!! amazing times with the new patch folks.

the commentary also is second to none.

you are so full of shit

User was temp banned for this post.

First ban as you continue to insult other posters. Barring some kind of selective memory loss you should have a crystal clear idea that this type of infraction is not acceptable.

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This is an example of a post that is truly stupid. In the warning it is pointed out that the mod had already told you to cut it out. Again, this is your encounter with moderation concerning an issue. You should understand posts like this that say nothing and just take up space are not acceptable.

A number of your other posts that required mod action are 1-liners that just have no purpose other than insulting another poster, stating your general apathy ("where is the I don't give a shit poll?"), or your expectations of seeing more bans coming from the mods. I could go on but it seems clear to me that the breakdown in communication is not on our side here.


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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 31 2013 22:41 GMT
#8
On February 01 2013 07:30 dAPhREAk wrote:
provide links to the posts and I will check to see if they were even reported. if they werent reported, they may have just escaped notice.


Good point.
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 31 2013 22:42 GMT
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9617 Posts
January 31 2013 22:53 GMT
#10
moderation history is always relevant when talking about being moderated.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 22:58 GMT
#11
On January 14 2013 05:34 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On January 14 2013 02:00 Whitewing wrote:
On January 14 2013 01:53 Iodem wrote:
Mvp's been slumping lately. He went 1 - 8 in his Blizzard Cup group, and then he streamed NA ladder games and lost like 5 games in a row. I think it's more or less his physical condition, regarding his spine and wrists going numb/being in pain. I just hope he doesn't fall out of Code S in Ro32.

This isn't meant to belittle Gosuuser on his win. I didn't watch the games myself, so I can't really say anything like "gosuuser played well." I have no knowledge of what took place in them. Best of luck to him in the rest of Iron Squid; Life's gonna be a tough opponent.

On January 12 2013 23:37 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On January 12 2013 23:36 Rescawen wrote:
I think after all the shitstorm it would nice to know briefly what MVP thinks of the gowser.


Patch-zerg?

User was temp banned for this post.


On January 13 2013 03:34 aTnClouD wrote:
Just another patchzerg ^_^

User was warned for this post


Just curious as to why one of these posts warranted a temp ban and the other only got a warning when they virtually say the same thing?


One of those posts was aTnClouD, who is a progamer and has been around for a while. It says right in the team liquid rules that they give preferential treatment to people like him, which is why he only got a warning.

Cloud is hardly a professional. Don't you have to get some form of results to be classified as professional.

not reported.

On January 30 2013 03:00 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On January 30 2013 01:26 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 30 2013 01:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
On January 30 2013 01:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
An entitled, oblivious poster full of unwarranted self importance; the belief that he has any idea what he's talking about or that his opinion is both educated and of any relevance whatsoever; his failure to see the irony and hypocrisy of him calling other posters douchebags given the quality of his own threads and posts, not to mention the need to play victim and bitch and whine when being served nothing more than the fair consequence of his shitposting...

Yeah I'd say 12-14 y.o. is spot on.

Or maybe just a young kid lacking experience IRL and on the internet? No need to be so harsh.


"No need to be so harsh" is pretty much what caused the generation of entitled, self-absorbed kiddies roaming the internet spouting ignorant shit and acting all tough (actually it's not just online) despite their vapid, mediocre existences. "Oh you're being a complete dick to your schoolmates and random people online? No problem, you're mommy's little unique snowflake, nobody in the world is as intelligent or as important as you are."

But hey, that's topic for a different discussion.

I am sorry if this sounds insulting but what is wrong with you and why are you so angry?

not reported.

On January 28 2013 17:33 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On January 28 2013 17:18 Caihead wrote:
Requesting 1 week ban, fuck this shit + Show Spoiler +
KT losing to SKT 2-4
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Also need the time off any ways.

good, I don't like you

reported.

On January 19 2013 12:09 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On January 19 2013 11:59 Kashll wrote:
On January 19 2013 11:27 Prevolved wrote:
Terran players saying Terran is the hardest. Seems legit.

User was warned for this post


I'm pretty sure by this point most Protoss and Zerg players can admit that too.

Real life example: I played terran at a high masters level, rarely ever offraced. I didn't think i could make a CSL match so we put in a gold protoss instead of me. He got matched up against a high masters zerg. A couple days before the game I realized i could play indeed, so I subbed for our toss. I beat the high masters zerg with 2 base blink stalkers despite never really playing protoss, and never really playing zerg. Does anyone honestly think a high masters protoss player could play terran and beat a high masters zerg player on a dime?

It's just not even a debate anymore that terran is MUCH MUCH harder to play. As for top level balance that's still undecided. but difficulty level it's not even a question.

As someone who plays all three races at around low masters level I would have to say Toss is BY FAR the easiest to play followed by Terran and Zerg on equal footing.

Zerg and Terran are hard for different reasons. Terran macro is much easier for me due to lifting bases, supply drop and reactors while hitting injects is hard for me. Micro wise Terran is harder because I can just go ling/bling Muta and a move. I struggle with using infestors and bio so I usually just go mech of ling/bling/muta for a move armies.

Terran is not as hard as Terrans make it out to be but it is still much harder then toss (no macro required, mass warp in, colossus, lol?).

Just my 2 cents.

not reported.

dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 23:01 GMT
#12
also, the one that was reported was in ABL, and i think there is a lower standard for that thread. plus, nobody likes caihead. ;-)
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 31 2013 23:01 GMT
#13
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
January 31 2013 23:04 GMT
#14
Mostly reports, there are some mods such as KwarK that don't do reports at all and only mod by reading threads.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 23:06 GMT
#15
On February 01 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote:
hmm interesting. I was not fully aware of the importance of reporting posts. Do mods looks through threads for bans or just wait for reports? If it is the latter then this makes a lot of sense.

you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 31 2013 23:08 GMT
#16
On February 01 2013 08:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On February 01 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote:
hmm interesting. I was not fully aware of the importance of reporting posts. Do mods looks through threads for bans or just wait for reports? If it is the latter then this makes a lot of sense.

you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not.


Cokefreak reads every post in every thread though and makes sure there are enough reports to keep the mods busy
✉ Tweets @sc2channel ⌦ Blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/JOJO ⌫ "Arbiterssss... build more arbiterssss." Click 'Profile' for awesome shiro art!
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
January 31 2013 23:08 GMT
#17
Some things you need to consider are that mods don't read every post in every thread instead relying mostly on reports, some threads are moderated differently then others, and different mods have different tipping points. But here we go.

1st post - Harsh, but not really inaccurate.
2nd - Kind of a legitimate question due to his tangent, and in the ABL thread, which is probably a less moderated thread.
3rd - Again, ABL thread so it comes off as a joke, at least to me.
4th - Unlike being a dick, spamming isn't subjective. Warning is pretty much an automatic response.
5th - Could have gone either way really. I must have been in a good mood that day(I'm pretty sure I handled that).
6th - Another that could go either way.
7th - That must of not been reported because the last part isn't acceptable and I would have banned.
8th - Another that could go either way. But it's not malicious(or at least not obviously so considering this revelation) and so I decided to warn.
9th - Borderline. But saying anything should be nerfed, let alone an entire race, is an easy target.
10th - Not so sure why you're surprised here. Questioning mod actions outside website feedback is backseat modding and with your history(which was said in the reason) it was time for a ban.

I'll agree that you could have gotten banned earlier, but I think it's just luck that you didn't. I know I handled a few of those reports, so maybe it's a hint I need to be less merciful
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
January 31 2013 23:11 GMT
#18
On February 01 2013 08:08 JOJOsc2news wrote:
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On February 01 2013 08:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote:
hmm interesting. I was not fully aware of the importance of reporting posts. Do mods looks through threads for bans or just wait for reports? If it is the latter then this makes a lot of sense.

you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not.


Cokefreak reads every post in every thread though and makes sure there are enough reports to keep the mods busy

Well I had to fill my time somehow as I cut down on the backseat moderating since you have taken up that role so well after your return.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 23:12 GMT
#19
hey cokefreak, report No. 7 and increase your ban stats!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
January 31 2013 23:12 GMT
#20
I reported the post that got you banned. How does that make you feel?
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