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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 31 2013 23:13 GMT
#21
--- Nuked ---
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
January 31 2013 23:13 GMT
#22
I'm going to let Templar do it, he needs the stats if he is going to be a banling one day.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 31 2013 23:16 GMT
#23
For your blog, this is how to not get banned like you were
  • When you blatantly insult someone, that is ban worthy. Even if you explain your reasoning, you can't just tell someone they are fucking retarded (well maybe in LRs sometimes if in jest).
  • Don't balance whine, (when done in jest by high post count accounts that have a good history, even they will get ban hammered sometimes) and even if you want to jest, just know that it could be met with sever punishment.
  • Don't say who is a pro and who is not, don't tell very important parts of the community off because you are, quite frankly, a no namer that has 1000 posts. I'm not trying to be rude here, but honestly you don't even count as a forum veteran, so telling professional players like ClouD that they don't count as pros is a bad idea.
  • Don't back seat mod. That is just a general thing. There will be very few times when you get to pull out this emoticon , and that is probably a good thing for most of us (especially me, because I love emotes ).

Finally, continue improving upon your posting , you should PM mods if you want advice on how to not get on their badside haha, and I'm glad you see the faults in your warnings.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:19:30
January 31 2013 23:18 GMT
#24
On February 01 2013 08:13 Emzeeshady wrote:
... Also as an additional note the 10th one was not a question of mod actions but rather a joke as how it was surprising no one made a sexist comment in that thread.


I guess I can see that, but it's very easy to interpret it the other way.

On February 01 2013 08:16 docvoc wrote:
For your blog, this is how to not get banned like you were
  • When you blatantly insult someone, that is ban worthy. Even if you explain your reasoning, you can't just tell someone they are fucking retarded (well maybe in LRs sometimes if in jest).
  • Don't balance whine, (when done in jest by high post count accounts that have a good history, even they will get ban hammered sometimes) and even if you want to jest, just know that it could be met with sever punishment.
  • Don't say who is a pro and who is not, don't tell very important parts of the community off because you are, quite frankly, a no namer that has 1000 posts. I'm not trying to be rude here, but honestly you don't even count as a forum veteran, so telling professional players like ClouD that they don't count as pros is a bad idea.
  • Don't back seat mod. That is just a general thing. There will be very few times when you get to pull out this emoticon , and that is probably a good thing for most of us (especially me, because I love emotes ).

Finally, continue improving upon your posting , you should PM mods if you want advice on how to not get on their badside haha, and I'm glad you see the faults in your warnings.

Is this satire?
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11535 Posts
January 31 2013 23:21 GMT
#25
Too few data points to be statistically meaningful.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 23:26 GMT
#26
On February 01 2013 08:16 docvoc wrote:
For your blog, this is how to not get banned like you were
  • When you blatantly insult someone, that is ban worthy. Even if you explain your reasoning, you can't just tell someone they are fucking retarded (well maybe in LRs sometimes if in jest).
  • Don't balance whine, (when done in jest by high post count accounts that have a good history, even they will get ban hammered sometimes) and even if you want to jest, just know that it could be met with sever punishment.
  • Don't say who is a pro and who is not, don't tell very important parts of the community off because you are, quite frankly, a no namer that has 1000 posts. I'm not trying to be rude here, but honestly you don't even count as a forum veteran, so telling professional players like ClouD that they don't count as pros is a bad idea.
  • Don't back seat mod. That is just a general thing. There will be very few times when you get to pull out this emoticon , and that is probably a good thing for most of us (especially me, because I love emotes ).

Finally, continue improving upon your posting , you should PM mods if you want advice on how to not get on their badside haha, and I'm glad you see the faults in your warnings.

for no. 1, follow idra's strategy. he stopped calling people "retarded," and instead called them "less than intelligent," "intellectually challenged," or something to that effect, and he wasnt moderated for it. it was quite amusing. for some reason, "retard" gets banned but nicer ways of saying a person is a "retard" dont get moderated.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:31:00
January 31 2013 23:28 GMT
#27
That's not why he stopped getting warned/banned.

edit: I guess considering I don't know this for sure I should say I highly doubt that it why.
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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 31 2013 23:29 GMT
#28
On February 01 2013 08:11 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 08:08 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote:
hmm interesting. I was not fully aware of the importance of reporting posts. Do mods looks through threads for bans or just wait for reports? If it is the latter then this makes a lot of sense.

you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not.


Cokefreak reads every post in every thread though and makes sure there are enough reports to keep the mods busy

Well I had to fill my time somehow as I cut down on the backseat moderating since you have taken up that role so well after your return.


Wait... let me go through my warnings. Let me check the folder "backseat moderating"... it's empty.
Oh no wait... there is one file and it reads: Warned for: "This thread is going to be closed. Goodbye thread". So I guess I am guilty.

Let me see your folder please.
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:31:12
January 31 2013 23:30 GMT
#29
On February 01 2013 08:21 Falling wrote:
Too few data points to be statistically meaningful.


Are you suggesting he should try to keep trying to get himself banned? For .. science?

Edit: Really:

On February 01 2013 08:28 Myles wrote:
That's not why he stopped getting warned/banned.


Why did he then stop getting warned/banned? It sounds like a juicy bit of gossip. You can tell us here, it's a blog thread. Ain't nobody but us here.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
January 31 2013 23:31 GMT
#30
On February 01 2013 08:29 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 08:11 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:08 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote:
hmm interesting. I was not fully aware of the importance of reporting posts. Do mods looks through threads for bans or just wait for reports? If it is the latter then this makes a lot of sense.

you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not.


Cokefreak reads every post in every thread though and makes sure there are enough reports to keep the mods busy

Well I had to fill my time somehow as I cut down on the backseat moderating since you have taken up that role so well after your return.


Wait... let me go through my warnings. Let me check the folder "backseat moderating"... it's empty.
Oh no wait... there is one file and it reads: Warned for: "This thread is going to be closed. Goodbye thread". So I guess I am guilty.

Let me see your folder please.

No warnings or bans for back seat moderating.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:37:20
January 31 2013 23:36 GMT
#31
On February 01 2013 08:31 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 08:29 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:11 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:08 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:06 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 01 2013 08:01 Emzeeshady wrote:
hmm interesting. I was not fully aware of the importance of reporting posts. Do mods looks through threads for bans or just wait for reports? If it is the latter then this makes a lot of sense.

you think the mods read every post in every thread? of course not.


Cokefreak reads every post in every thread though and makes sure there are enough reports to keep the mods busy

Well I had to fill my time somehow as I cut down on the backseat moderating since you have taken up that role so well after your return.


Wait... let me go through my warnings. Let me check the folder "backseat moderating"... it's empty.
Oh no wait... there is one file and it reads: Warned for: "This thread is going to be closed. Goodbye thread". So I guess I am guilty.

Let me see your folder please.

No warnings or bans for back seat moderating.


I believe you. Probably no mod notes either

cough cough
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#32
cough.

On April 27 2012 04:36 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 04:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 27 2012 04:19 Sentenal wrote:
Blasterion was just temp banned for 30 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2010-10-22 10:35:34 and had 9737 posts.

Reason: Ok.

At this point you have two pages worth of mod notes. You were just warned earlier about the image macros and proceeded to post a few more AFTER being warned. Nearly all of your warnings/bans have been for image macros/low content posting. You have almost 10k posts, and have only been here about a year and a half.

Your posts are largely filler. That needs to stop. You wont get many more warnings.

Best ban ever, long overdue. I guess this means I'm allowed to report his posts again when he gets back? Mods told me to stop reporting his filler garbage posts a while back.

let this be a warning to those who come into every thread, post a one-liner useless statement and then leave, never to return again. it is quite common. you people know who you are.


While we're at it, let's also put out a general warning against people who backseat moderate, some of you are quite guilty of that. *glares at Cokefreak*

cough
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:40:39
January 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#33
Oh shit you found that, I tried and failed myself :D give me link please.
Also damn Kaddy left me hanging with that comment, he could've at least told me how many notes does 'several' mean.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 31 2013 23:41 GMT
#34
On February 01 2013 08:39 Cokefreak wrote:
Oh shit you found that, I tried and failed myself :D give me link please.
Also damn Kaddy left me hanging with that comment, he could've at least told me how many notes does 'several' mean.


Oh yeah... he never answered that question. What a tease...
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 31 2013 23:47 GMT
#35
IMO I think post with "I hope I dont get banned for sharing my opinion...." will almost ALWAYS end up in a ban, EVEN IF you actually maybe just shared your opinion about something and actually was just nervous and a bit afraid and hoping not to get banned because the opinion is against "what is regarded as normal" opinion.
For example, hitting your children as a parent, most people think its bad, yes?
Someone maybe wants to share a opinion about it and he isnt really against hitting your children as a parent and he writes "I hope I dont get banned for sharing my opinion". Because he know people might get pissed (mods included) cause normally people dont like parents hitting children and he might get outright banned just cause the opinion he wants to share. In essence he kind of means "excuse me for sharing my opinion...." But alas he gets banned just cause he wrote those little words and not actually because his opinion.

I know its classed as "martying" but really, people can still post great just after writing those words and end up with a ban just cause its "martyring". Then other people can throw out hefty insult or a really bad post and it ends with them getting a simple warning. EVEN THOUGH their post in itself was way worse than the post the guy with the "I hope I dont get banned for sharing my opininon" did.

"Martyring" is super strictly moderated and ends up with bans simply cause; "martyring", and sometimes its pretty fucked up really. Mods could maybe look a little deeper and look at the actual post instead of; OMFG MARTYING INSTANT BAN, cause thats how I feel the reaction is regarding "martying".
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
January 31 2013 23:49 GMT
#36
Martyring doesn't always get a ban, I've seen warnings and occasionally it goes completely unmoderated.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10472 Posts
January 31 2013 23:49 GMT
#37
On February 01 2013 08:08 Myles wrote:
Some things you need to consider are that mods don't read every post in every thread instead relying mostly on reports, some threads are moderated differently then others, and different mods have different tipping points. But here we go.

1st post - Harsh, but not really inaccurate.
2nd - Kind of a legitimate question due to his tangent, and in the ABL thread, which is probably a less moderated thread.
3rd - Again, ABL thread so it comes off as a joke, at least to me.
4th - Unlike being a dick, spamming isn't subjective. Warning is pretty much an automatic response.
5th - Could have gone either way really. I must have been in a good mood that day(I'm pretty sure I handled that).
6th - Another that could go either way.
7th - That must of not been reported because the last part isn't acceptable and I would have banned.
8th - Another that could go either way. But it's not malicious(or at least not obviously so considering this revelation) and so I decided to warn.
9th - Borderline. But saying anything should be nerfed, let alone an entire race, is an easy target.
10th - Not so sure why you're surprised here. Questioning mod actions outside website feedback is backseat modding and with your history(which was said in the reason) it was time for a ban.

I'll agree that you could have gotten banned earlier, but I think it's just luck that you didn't. I know I handled a few of those reports, so maybe it's a hint I need to be less merciful

yeah, i remember when i backseated once and got tempbanned. was like a really heated flame/bash war between two ppl and i asked why they weren't banned yet. insta-temp ban.

i dont know how bad your post has to be for a warning/ban nowadays because i rarely do anything stupid in my posts. but i see a lot of high post count people posting like one liner stuff that is pretty much useless to the thread and they never get warned or banned. ive always wanted to do that as well but i think that its like cause they are really high in posts.

thoughts?
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 31 2013 23:55 GMT
#38
On February 01 2013 08:49 Cokefreak wrote:
Martyring doesn't always get a ban, I've seen warnings and occasionally it goes completely unmoderated.


Yeah I shouldnt maybe say to much, though those times I've seen it moderated it has almost always been banned for (lurked alot before I made the account). Multiple people even wondered and were against the ban cause they thought it was stupid to ban simply cause martyring, but yeah I ofcourse havent seen all martyring cases so I dunno....
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
February 01 2013 00:05 GMT
#39
Well martyring is a ban 99% of the time so I think that does indeed make it the most hardly moderated offense a regular poster could make.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
February 01 2013 00:10 GMT
#40
On February 01 2013 09:05 Cokefreak wrote:
Well martyring is a ban 99% of the time so I think that does indeed make it the most hardly moderated offense a regular poster could make.


See, that's what I don't get though. A regular poster should know about how martyring is being moderated. If you still choose to go for "I'm probably going to be banned for this.." then that's asking for it.
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