• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:50
CET 07:50
KST 15:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Do you consider PvZ imbalanced? Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2027 users

TL Trends

Blogs > yejin
Post a Reply
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
January 07 2013 11:47 GMT
#1
When it comes to Broodwar and Starcraft 2, I have always seen TeamLiquid as one of the few key places which will give trends about the game activity and popularity.

I am not quite sure which % of the SC2 fanbase actually reads TeamLiquid, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a large part, large enough to statistically represent the whole foreign SC2 community when it comes to trends and behaviors.

I know TL will not communicate on numbers such as pageviews, and unique visitor counts because it's extremely related to TeamLiquid's value on the market, and it's a negociation asset when it comes to banners deal.

However, I wish TL could provide non specific charts regarding the evolution of trends for the past 2 years since SC2 was launched, the arrival of Dota2... LoL.

Am I crazy to think that we would see a huge drop in the SC2 live streams global audience ? A shift towards Dota 2 and LoL and less and less page views on the SC2 Tourneys and SC2 General forums.

I also think that the pageviews and visitor counts that TL achieved when SC2 came out are far from being reached nowadays, even during a major event.

If TL is the barometer for SC2 outside of Korea, how warm was it at its peak, and "colder" is it now ?

nospeech
Disposition1989
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada270 Posts
January 07 2013 13:53 GMT
#2
Judging by the number of viewers streamers get these days you could probably see a trend away from sc2...but I think looking at twitch.tv's front page will show an even clearer picture of who is watching what (right now, HOTS will surely bump things). Not exactly a surprise though and I'm not sure you need statistics to make this trend more obvious
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
January 07 2013 15:07 GMT
#3
I always look at the total number of viewers watching streams in the top right corner. It's clear that a lot of people (35,000) even at 10 am are watching SC2. At the time SC2 came out there was a huge influx of TL members but now I know most consistent SC2 TL members by ID. I think that most forum veterans here are very knowledgeable of the game and that is a big reason for why trends start here. Because people are always checking in on this website and treat everything we say like it's gold. If anything, that demands more out of each post we make and which is why crappy posting is unacceptable unless your a drunk mod.

But SC2 views rise and fall based on tournaments and drama factor. I think even things like the Flash Meme helped spread popularity to people who didn't really know much about SC2 beforehand. HoTS will put Starcraft in competition for the top eSports game again but the amount of viewers don't matter in the end. It's loyalty and community that make the game most fun in the end.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 07 2013 18:44 GMT
#4
That stream aggregate at the top right would be the streams that are featured/registered on TL though right? Off to ask a member of TL staff for that one.

I personally expect a similar influx to TL for HOTS as there was for WoL. Either by way of finding the Starcraft Reddit or simply doing some searches about the game. If I were to approximate the peak viewership, I would say it was moving into January 2012 but that is just based on memory and inference.

As you compare it to MOBA, TL is making an entrance into that scene with the DOTA team. I am not sure that the idea that stream/tournament views are a zero sum gain really has that much traction. With the Dota team around I expect TL will gain some extra diversity in terms of its user base.

In fact I would say more "MOBA only," players are apt to turn to a Starcraft stream during downtime than people who identify as SC2 exclusive players. This would partially be due to migration from SC as a main game to MOBA is by my estimation higher than the other way around.

HOTS will give TL a huge bump all around in terms of users, and just general activity. Look for a huge upswing in the next few months both from returning players (if only for the campaign) and completely new blood. To me regardless of other games, the bottom line is Starcraft endures.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Playoffs
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 156
FoxeR 95
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 304
Leta 129
Noble 49
GoRush 18
PianO 17
zelot 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
sorry 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 235
NeuroSwarm133
League of Legends
JimRising 749
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv426
Super Smash Bros
Westballz34
Other Games
summit1g10004
C9.Mang0411
Mew2King31
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV88
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra2773
• Lourlo1431
• HappyZerGling182
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
2h 10m
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 10m
Replay Cast
17h 10m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.