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Humans Are Destructive

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123Viril69
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Australia31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 02:06:30
November 12 2012 01:57 GMT
#1
I'm sure this has been written about for ages and that many great minds and eminent philosophers have contemplated this topic, but I felt a need to talk about this anyway.

What follows is a quite cynical perspective of humanity.

So three things in general:

1. We instinctively seek order and harmony in disorder and chaos, even if those patterns do not actually exist. But we subconsciously do this as a way to make sense of the world around us; essentially we want to believe that things can be simplified and assorted into neat little packages. We try to find patterns of order and harmony in nature or otherwise chaotic scenarios, even if those patterns only exist in our heads. We do this as a way to make sense of our surroundings, because we are inherently afraid of chaos and things that we do not understand.

2. We are afraid of failure more than we are happy about success. Just like how pleasure can be seen as being the absence of pain, success can be seen as being the absence of failure, and harmony can be seen as being the absence of disorder. But without having ever experienced pain, we cannot effectively appreciate pleasure; without having been through failure, we cannot appreciate success. We have inevitably seen true chaos and true disorder and, to avoid that hell or to avoid being afraid of the unknown or things we cannot fathom, we instinctively seek order in every situation.

When humans make progress, they do so because they fear the prospect of failure more than the resulting feelings associated with success. Because happiness is fleeting and further challenges inevitably await.

3. We are constantly fighting our animalistic urges of destruction. Humanity is, by its very nature, a destructive force. It is much easier and more convenient for us to destroy than to create. Effectively there are institutions in place, such as justice systems and social conventions, that dissuade us from destructive activities. At the same time we are rewarded for pursuing constructive projects. But the very fact that such social rules and pressures exist makes the convincing argument that we must fight the desire to destroy by artificial measures and social conventions. Again, we are afraid of destruction and we applaud construction.

But we cannot deny that there is a dark side to people. We do things not necessarily for ourselves but in an effort to "fit into" society and have a comfortable life not only within the confines of our own imagination but the world and people around us that we can relate to at large. We don't want to die because we are afraid of the pain that we associate with it, we are afraid of what might happen to us after death (the unknown part), and we fear what our demise might mean to people who love and care about us. So, in effect, we create because we have been told by society to do so, we succeed because we have become convinced that success is preferable to failure. But at the end of the day, even if you might be a success with many constructive credits to your name, you might feel a certain emptiness inside -- an emptiness that results from the stifling of the destructive power inside of you.

There is a saying along the lines of "boredom is a breeding grounds for evil". Boredom by itself is neutral and impartial; however, it is the very nature of the human mind that resorts to the negative impulses and the worst case scenarios when the mind is seemingly "empty" and devoid of any thought, positive or negative. Paradoxically, we seek order and harmony in chaos and disorder but, in moments of boredom, we fall back on the animalistic tendencies of destruction, chaos, and disorder. We are afraid of things we cannot understand and cannot ascertain patterns in, and yet we are utterly fascinated by them.

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ForgottenMemory
Profile Joined March 2009
United States13 Posts
November 12 2012 02:19 GMT
#2
This is why stuff like religion got created = ).

I don't know whether boredom promotes negative impulses rather than just the impulse to do something, to make an impact. Oftentimes it's a lot easier to make a negative impact than a positive one.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
November 12 2012 02:29 GMT
#3
1. and 3. are manifestations of the same desire - we want some reliability and peace in our lives, but too much is boring.

as for 2, yeah it's true that pain and punishment are more powerful motivators than pleasure or reward. I wouldn't say that pleasure is the absence of pain, though.

Also, ladder anxiety. Ladder pushes you towards 50% winrate, but losses are more painful than wins are pleasurable, so there must be other motivation to play.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 12 2012 02:45 GMT
#4
Destruction, chaos, and disorder (#2 and #3 are synonyms) are no more animalistic than nurturing, order, and harmony. Dichotomies are mere constructs of the mind.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
hoot00
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States77 Posts
November 12 2012 03:10 GMT
#5
you just fell prey to #1
LEGENDS NEVER GG
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 12 2012 09:22 GMT
#6
On November 12 2012 11:45 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Dichotomies are mere constructs of the mind.

That's deep, man.
:)
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 12 2012 09:24 GMT
#7
So if 1 and 3 are manifestations of the same desire, and 2 and 3 are synonyms, maybe all three of them are swirling around in a nebulous cloud of chaos and confusion themselves. So meta.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
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