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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
October 30 2012 01:40 GMT
#21
There's a lot of trash posts on any popular forum. The fact of the matter is that most forums are trying to allow users freedom of speech. Honestly if a post is really that bad, report it and TL will look at it. Maybe you read too many forum posts haha.
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
October 30 2012 02:26 GMT
#22
I remember being temp banned or something for posting a "tabloid" article in the general forums. As if there aren't any tabloids in the general forums...

I also got warned for being "way too hasty" for asking if someone was a troll when we posted back and forth for a day or two.

So, kids, post tabloids, and if you ever call someone a troll, it's like you blindly came into a bar just swinging your fists non-stop.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 30 2012 02:36 GMT
#23
There are a couple threads here which generally tend to draw idiots. Stay out of them and everything is usually fine
Что?
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 30 2012 02:37 GMT
#24
The OP is asking for our thoughts on the matter, so I'm going to provide my honest thoughts on the matter, uncensored. I apologize in advance if I upset anyone.

Calling for more harsh moderation, greater moderation? My god, what the fuck??? We are already assassinating people for jaywalking!

Look people, every time you have a frustration and you think "God I wish I had the power to prevent these people from saying or typing something that irritates me, I wish I could do something to stop them or punish them"... Take a moment, chill the fuck out, realize you are acting like an intolerant child. Realize that it's just a fucking internet forum where people talk to each other, it's just words on the internet, we aren't building a fucking tower to heaven, we aren't establishing a constitution here. Give people some leeway, and they will afford you some leeway, and we can all get along and enjoy our time here without throwing anyone except the outright psychopaths and nutjobs under the bus.

Can we handle that, children? The days of running to mommy and to the yard duty are over when you become a mature adult. Being a mature adult means sucking it up and dealing with people saying things you don't like or occasionally "digressing," to quote Catcher in the Rye, or being stupid asses. Being an adult means you can deal with these things and these people without throwing a tantrum and expecting and authority figure to solve the problem for you. Maybe you don't like what I'm saying now, and want to lash out at me for it. It's ok, that's just the Nazi Child in your soul, he will be gone when you man the fuck up.

/rant
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
October 30 2012 02:40 GMT
#25
On October 30 2012 11:37 jdseemoreglass wrote:
The OP is asking for our thoughts on the matter, so I'm going to provide my honest thoughts on the matter, uncensored. I apologize in advance if I upset anyone.

Calling for more harsh moderation, greater moderation? My god, what the fuck??? We are already assassinating people for jaywalking!

Look people, every time you have a frustration and you think "God I wish I had the power to prevent these people from saying or typing something that irritates me, I wish I could do something to stop them or punish them"... Take a moment, chill the fuck out, realize you are acting like an intolerant child. Realize that it's just a fucking internet forum where people talk to each other, it's just words on the internet, we aren't building a fucking tower to heaven, we aren't establishing a constitution here. Give people some leeway, and they will afford you some leeway, and we can all get along and enjoy our time here without throwing anyone except the outright psychopaths and nutjobs under the bus.

Can we handle that, children? The days of running to mommy and to the yard duty are over when you become a mature adult. Being a mature adult means sucking it up and dealing with people saying things you don't like or occasionally "digressing," to quote Catcher in the Rye, or being stupid asses. Being an adult means you can deal with these things and these people without throwing a tantrum and expecting and authority figure to solve the problem for you. Maybe you don't like what I'm saying now, and want to lash out at me for it. It's ok, that's just the Nazi Child in your soul, he will be gone when you man the fuck up.

/rant

Swing heil?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 30 2012 02:52 GMT
#26
On October 30 2012 11:40 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 11:37 jdseemoreglass wrote:
The OP is asking for our thoughts on the matter, so I'm going to provide my honest thoughts on the matter, uncensored. I apologize in advance if I upset anyone.

Calling for more harsh moderation, greater moderation? My god, what the fuck??? We are already assassinating people for jaywalking!

Look people, every time you have a frustration and you think "God I wish I had the power to prevent these people from saying or typing something that irritates me, I wish I could do something to stop them or punish them"... Take a moment, chill the fuck out, realize you are acting like an intolerant child. Realize that it's just a fucking internet forum where people talk to each other, it's just words on the internet, we aren't building a fucking tower to heaven, we aren't establishing a constitution here. Give people some leeway, and they will afford you some leeway, and we can all get along and enjoy our time here without throwing anyone except the outright psychopaths and nutjobs under the bus.

Can we handle that, children? The days of running to mommy and to the yard duty are over when you become a mature adult. Being a mature adult means sucking it up and dealing with people saying things you don't like or occasionally "digressing," to quote Catcher in the Rye, or being stupid asses. Being an adult means you can deal with these things and these people without throwing a tantrum and expecting and authority figure to solve the problem for you. Maybe you don't like what I'm saying now, and want to lash out at me for it. It's ok, that's just the Nazi Child in your soul, he will be gone when you man the fuck up.

/rant

Swing heil?

More like Mein Ban-mpf
Что?
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:57:47
October 30 2012 02:57 GMT
#27
Errr... I think i found it...
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
October 30 2012 10:26 GMT
#28
There, did some moderating on backseat moderators.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 11:20:44
October 30 2012 11:20 GMT
#29
It is hard to moderate a metropolis.
WriterXiao8~~
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 30 2012 11:38 GMT
#30
On October 30 2012 20:20 Kipsate wrote:
It is hard to moderate a metropolis.


or a very large building

but seriously, it's interesting that OP thinks TL moderation is too lax when various crybabies elsewhere call it too strict. I guess especially in LR threads, the standards are slightly lower (because LR threads have been historically moderated a bit more loosely, tbh... they were originally more about reactions to play than actual "live reporting," though with the advent of real streams and such, the purpose of the LR thread has changed somehow), and if moderators were to actually ban anything that offended anyone, they'd have to be clicking "ban" like 5 times per minute, and at least 25% of users in each thread would be banned.

damn that was a long run-on.
Writer
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
October 30 2012 11:57 GMT
#31
Personally I don't think there's a big problem with the derailment of threads. I mean, as long as discussion branches out from the original post, why not, right?

I feel that Mods should only ban trolls, idiots/backseat moderators, and those deliberately being mean to the rest of the TL users. As long as every post is backed up with sufficient and logical content, it should be allowed.
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50bani
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Romania480 Posts
October 30 2012 11:59 GMT
#32
If anything, there is too much moderation on TL. They ban a lot of content, some subjects seem taboo, your controversial opinions are not wanted on this forum. I feel that moderation should only have to do with technical aspects, like when someone spams, or posts links to malware. Whatever people write on the forums is to be judged by individual members themselves as discussion worthy or not. Use your judgement! One thing a forum needs is a feature that lets you block users you don't like so you can remove "clutter" generated by trolls and flamers.

The idea that the internet is going to be a cool, collected and well educated is super naive.
I'm posting on twoplustwo because I have always been amazed at the level of talent that populates this site --- it's almost unparalleled on the Internet.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
October 30 2012 14:25 GMT
#33
On October 30 2012 20:59 50bani wrote:
If anything, there is too much moderation on TL. They ban a lot of content, some subjects seem taboo, your controversial opinions are not wanted on this forum. I feel that moderation should only have to do with technical aspects, like when someone spams, or posts links to malware. Whatever people write on the forums is to be judged by individual members themselves as discussion worthy or not. Use your judgement! One thing a forum needs is a feature that lets you block users you don't like so you can remove "clutter" generated by trolls and flamers.

The idea that the internet is going to be a cool, collected and well educated is super naive.

A forum can be cool, collected and well educated, provided you get rid of the people that aren't cool collected and well educated.
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 15:08:41
October 30 2012 15:07 GMT
#34
What it needs is a way to single out good and constructive posting. Unfortunately that's impossible in a system that rewards longevity and acts of the past. It's simple as that.

TL has grown too big for its current system and there is no way anyone could change anything without upsetting the veterans who hold the most power overall.

I thought about it for a long time, and I have decided it's not even worth my time trying to propose anything given that Website Feedback is barely used for anything anyway.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
October 30 2012 17:16 GMT
#35
That's simply not true. Any fool can see website feedback is there for when I want to complain about kwark.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 20:03:41
October 30 2012 20:02 GMT
#36
On October 30 2012 11:37 jdseemoreglass wrote:
The OP is asking for our thoughts on the matter, so I'm going to provide my honest thoughts on the matter, uncensored. I apologize in advance if I upset anyone.

Calling for more harsh moderation, greater moderation? My god, what the fuck??? We are already assassinating people for jaywalking!

Look people, every time you have a frustration and you think "God I wish I had the power to prevent these people from saying or typing something that irritates me, I wish I could do something to stop them or punish them"... Take a moment, chill the fuck out, realize you are acting like an intolerant child. Realize that it's just a fucking internet forum where people talk to each other, it's just words on the internet, we aren't building a fucking tower to heaven, we aren't establishing a constitution here. Give people some leeway, and they will afford you some leeway, and we can all get along and enjoy our time here without throwing anyone except the outright psychopaths and nutjobs under the bus.

Can we handle that, children? The days of running to mommy and to the yard duty are over when you become a mature adult. Being a mature adult means sucking it up and dealing with people saying things you don't like or occasionally "digressing," to quote Catcher in the Rye, or being stupid asses. Being an adult means you can deal with these things and these people without throwing a tantrum and expecting and authority figure to solve the problem for you. Maybe you don't like what I'm saying now, and want to lash out at me for it. It's ok, that's just the Nazi Child in your soul, he will be gone when you man the fuck up.

/rant


95% of posters can't handle terrible posters. Not getting upset and not retaliating is just the bare minimum. Can you really ignore them and continue with the lines of discussions that were actually going somewhere? And even if YOU can there's always going to be some posters who would have had something intelligent to say had they not wasted their time correcting someone who is just blatantly wrong (possibly on purpose).

And of course there's the issue of having to read 20 pages of discussion 80% of which is basically useless, instead of having 3 or 4 pages of great content. Even if you're a Buddha and never get upset or derailed by stupidity they are still wasting your time.

edit: or you don't read the 20 pages and post something that has already been said. Now you became part of the problem too.

"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
October 30 2012 23:10 GMT
#37
TL should bring Rekrul back
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 30 2012 23:12 GMT
#38
On October 31 2012 08:10 Shana wrote:
TL should bring Rekrul back

Be careful what you wish for
Что?
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
October 31 2012 00:03 GMT
#39
On October 31 2012 08:12 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 08:10 Shana wrote:
TL should bring Rekrul back

Be careful what you wish for


Whats so bad about him? Havent been around for long.
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 00:20:06
October 31 2012 00:19 GMT
#40
On October 31 2012 09:03 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 08:12 Shady Sands wrote:
On October 31 2012 08:10 Shana wrote:
TL should bring Rekrul back

Be careful what you wish for


Whats so bad about him? Havent been around for long.

I always thought that the reason the Soviet purges were so bad was because all the guys calling the shots were shitfaced. Then Rek's drunk banning sprees started to make more sense
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