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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 20:08:03
October 26 2012 19:59 GMT
#1
Should Twitch.tv worry about Youtube?

That question sounds stupid. Twitch is growing by the day. And they recently received 15 million dollars from an investment firm. What is there to worry about?

First, Youtube's size. Would a streamer rather be featured on Youtube's front page or Twitch's? Is a stream more likely to go viral on Youtube or Twitch? Which do you think is more important to TotalBiscuit and Husky: their Twitch subscriptions, or their Youtube subscriptions? Youtube simply provides a bigger audience than Twitch.

Second, Youtube's VODs. Despite Twitch's repeated promises that they're working on making their VODs persistent and searchable, no significant progress has been made. That streamers like Day9 and Destiny move content from their Twitch streams to their Youtube channels should be a big red flag. If Youtube can synergize streaming and VODs, why would anyone choose to just stream on Twtich?

Youtube hasn't made any inroads yet. FXOpen's experiment with Youtube Live Streaming seems to have failed, and Twitch has undoubtedly developed personal and contractual relationship in the community which it can leverage. Still, if I were DJWheat, 2GD, or Gunrun, I'd be worried.


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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 20:11:10
October 26 2012 20:09 GMT
#2
I think youtube would need to work double time to get their streams up to par because right now it's lacking stability; they need to implement that anti-Adblock that ow3d has on it now--really annoying. Youtube would need to advertise their live streams because most people don't know. So for now I think Twitch is fine.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
October 26 2012 20:14 GMT
#3
Youtubes streams arent that great right now. They tend to go down frequently and the general algorithms that Youtube uses tend to also obfuscate really great streams. Also the niches of both of them are very different. Twitch is for gamers, Youtube has a history of shitting on gamers out of fear of copyrights because Google doesnt want to go to court over that.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 26 2012 20:35 GMT
#4
Google could just buy Twitch if they want.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
October 26 2012 20:40 GMT
#5
On October 27 2012 05:35 fabiano wrote:
Google could just buy Twitch if they want.


This is much more likely than completely changing the way youtube operates, or creating a parallel service that replicates what twitch has done (which would be more expensive, and they'd need to attract streamers from scratch rather than purchasing an already established pool)
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Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 27 2012 00:27 GMT
#6
Why'd you pick those 3 names as people who should be worried? I think if the YouTube 'Threat' is real, the people who just invested 15 million would be a lot morw worried hyaaa
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 00:43:28
October 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#7
On October 27 2012 09:27 Xeris wrote:
Why'd you pick those 3 names as people who should be worried? I think if the YouTube 'Threat' is real, the people who just invested 15 million would be a lot morw worried hyaaa


My thinking was, DJWheat works for Twitch in America, 2GD works them in Europe, and Gunrun is their streaming guy. I think they're the three faces most readily identifiable with Twitch. You're probably right, though, lol.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 27 2012 07:25 GMT
#8
Youtube would be a major threat to Twitch if it got its streaming up to par as it would be extremely convenient to stream and then upload the VOD right after. But if you look at all the streamers who play music and what not while they play, I can see Youtube being extremely hard on that.

I can see something like the IGN Pro League using Youtube to stream since they upload all the games to Youtube, but for individual streamers I see them sticking with Twitch.
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