SlayerS Timeline

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

October 25 2012 19:37 GMT

(I'm posting this as a blog as I wasn't sure where else to put it.)

With so much going on recently regarding SlayerS and the confusion of people (and myself) about what happened when, I decided to put down a timeline of events involving or pertaining to SlayerS with links (where available). I then spent quite some time putting in all the puzzle-piece tidbits (in italic font) I could glean from the following pertinent threads of late (and elsewhere):

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"Slayers to disband"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041
"The head of ESF steps down from his position"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376498
"Crank and MMA's accounts regarding SlayerS"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377311
"Razer's remarks on MMA personal sponsorship cutoff"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377665

DISCLAIMER: This is simply for informational purposes and probably not 100% accurate. Some events overlap, so keep that in mind. No warranty. Subject to change. If I missed anything important, let me know.

SLAYERS TIMELINE

2010-08-14

BoxeR starts playing SC2 under the ID "manofoneway"

November 2010

- SC2CON is formed by existing Korean SC2 teams

2010-11-03

BoxeR's name is removed from KeSPA's official progamer list

2010-11-05

Intel confirmed as personal sponsor for BoxeR + new team
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166525

2010-11-09

SlayerS is formed by BoxeR and Jessica
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167476
(some sources say October 30, but November 9 is the date on their clan page)

2010-11-30

Initial SlayerS clan roster is announced
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173222

2010-12-09

SlayerS announce pro team recruitment phase
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176504
(note difference between clan and team)

2010-12-20

Initial SlayerS pro team lineup announced
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=178269

December 2010

- SC2CON request SlayerS join the organization

January/February 2011

- GanZi, still on Incredible Miracle, wants to join SlayerS
- Incredible Miracle request GSL suspension for GanZi from SC2CON
- SlayerS meet SC2CON coaches with GanZi and Mvp present to resolve issue
- GanZi is cleared of charges, joins SlayerS shortly before GSL March
- SlayerS is disillusioned by SC2CON, will not join the organization

2011-02-15

Razer sponsors SlayerS_BoxeR
http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/razer-sponsors-slayersboxer

2011-03-24

SlayerS win GSTL March
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204350

March 2011

- NASL Season 1 is announced, BoxeR and others prepare for it
- SC2CON chairman Coach Won asks SlayerS to boycott NASL over flights not paid
- preparations for SlayerS are already made and sponsor Intel offers to pay
- so SlayerS decline the request from SC2CON

2011-05-19

SlayerS win GSTL May
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224591

2011-05-27

SlayerS Clan changes name to "Starcraft II Team SlayerS"
http://cafe.naver.com/CafeHistoryView.nhn?clubid=21777048

May/June 2011

- SlayerS players take part in NASL Season 1
- SC2CON teams start refusing to practice with SlayerS players

2011-06-14

Eve joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243800

2011-06-24

Long interview with Jessica about the beginnings of SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236783

July/August 2011

- NASL Season 2 is announced
- SC2CON teams plan to boycott NASL again, ask SlayerS to follow suit
- SlayerS agree to join the boycott this time to protest deposits
- Refusal by SC2CON teams to practice with SlayerS players continues

2011-08-09

YellOw joins SlayerS as honorary member
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252792

2011-08-12

SlayerS along with SC2CON teams withdraw from NASL Season 2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253750
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10804657

2011-08-17

CoCa joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255948

2011-08-20

Puzzle joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257035

2011-08-30

ThorZaiN stays at SlayerS team house until September 8
http://twitter.com/EGThorZaIN/status/108801054275153920

September/October 2011

- after ThorZaiN leaves, Coach Ryu joins SlayerS as a personal coach to MMA
- he is a personal friend of MMA's, later coaches other SlayerS players as well
- apparently there is a verbal contract between MMA and Coach Ryu payment-wise

- Crank joins SlayerS after finishing his military service

2011-09-24

SC2CON disbands
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268772

2011-10-21

SlayerS partner with Evil Geniuses
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=276296

2011-10-30

Sleep leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280556

2011-11-06

- players MMA, Ryung, Alicia, Puzzle, GanZi sign one-year contracts with SlayerS
- these contracts are described as necessary to attract new sponsors
- but there is also pressure on all Korean teams to bind their star players
- a prize money sharing clause is part of these contracts, but not enforced
- 9:1 ratio for under 1 million Won and 8:2 ratio for over 2 million Won

2011-11-12

SocceR (Ven) joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285058

2011-11-15

CoCa demoted to SlayerS B-Team
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285580

2011-11-19

Team Slayers: Something Special (MLG Providence Video Special)
http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/79206-team-slayers-something-special

2011-11-28

Clide joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=289674

November/December 2011

- Evil Geniuses players stay at the SlayerS team house
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HuK and IdrA interviewed by CSN while at SlayerS

December 2011

- Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung a.k.a. "Manager J" joins SlayerS
- formerly with sponsor Razer, he has accompanied the team since February 2011
- he is to handle sponsorships and international relations for SlayerS
- fluent in English, he will also operate the Facebook and Twitter accounts
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"Manager J" in SlayerS uniform translating for MMA in this Blizzard Cup CSN interview

2011-12-28

SlayerS team house moves from downtown Seoul (Yeouido) to Gimpo
http://twitter.com/chuljung/status/152291449424191488
("Manager J" tweeting at HuK about new team house after move)

2011-12-28

- Jessica meets with Coach Won, previously head of now disbanded SC2CON
- she addresses other teams refusing to practice with SlayerS players
- Coach Won: "it's cheap, but we plan to penalize SlayerS in at least this way"
- it's implied that this is all because SlayerS would not join SC2CON

January/February 2012

- SlayerS begin process to negotiate contract extensions with sponsors
- "Manager J" is put in charge of this by team management
- Jessica eventually receives reports of negotiations failing
- SlayerS attempt to continue without main sponsors Razer and Intel

- contracted players are ordered to deposit prize money share (~10 million Won)
- this money is to be used to pay for coaching staff (Cella, Ryu, "Manager J")
- leftovers are to be used on player benefits (winter unforms, recreational gear)

2012-01-16

Golden and Dragon leave SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303605

2012-01-19

Farewell letter from Golden to SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304430

2012-01-26

BoxeR appointed playing head coach of SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306443

February/March 2012

- NASL Season 3 is announced, former SC2CON teams still want to boycott
- SlayerS see no results to their boycotting of Season 2, take part in qualifiers
- 8 SlayerS players successfully qualify for NASL Season 3
- MVP Coach Choi calls Jessica to express his disappointment in SlayerS
- he asks that SlayerS players pull out like qualified FXO players did
- Jessica denies the request, SlayerS players will compete in NASL Season 3

- in a final appeal to stop other teams ostracizing SlayerS, Jessica calls Coach Won
- she says SlayerS players shouldn't suffer, so she would disband the team
- players would transfer but she'd hold the other teams liable for sponsor damages
- on March 27 Jessica receives an e-mail from Coach Won that the ban is lifted
- but SlayerS players later report that the ostracizing is still going on
- it's later revealed that an offical practice ban was in effect March 10 - 27
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16644199

- "Manager J" tells MMA of supposed personal sponsorship embezzlement
- this is a day before his Code S match versus aLive on February 15
- MMA is distraught and eventually confides in Crank asking for advice
- Crank suggests MMA talk to BoxeR, who when asked by MMA has no information
- throughout February team atmosphere seems to tank and strangely disorderly

- Jessica becomes suspicious of "Manager J"'s actions and starts to investigate
- apparently, "Manager J" has been telling sponsors and management different things
- in some instances he was not even in contact with sponsors or handling it poorly
- Jessica also finds out about "Manager J" telling MMA about personal sponsorship
- things point to "Manager J" trying to steal the players and create a new team
- Jessica is distraught that players would not tell her, no longer trusts MMA
- MMA first mentions intent to leave SlayerS for a foreign team

2012-02-28

Jessica tweets about betrayal of someone operating SlayerS Facebook/Twitter accounts
http://i.imgur.com/X8R75.png

2012-03-01

Statement to TL.net: SlayerS Facebook and Twitter no longer official
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=316657
(operated by Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung a.k.a. "Manager J", previously of Razer)

2012-03-10

SlayerS announce team draft (March 12 - 16)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319224
(Arthur, Dark, KDY may have come from this)

March 2012

- Jessica and Boxer gather the players to apologize about "Manager J"
- "If there was a mistake made by us, it was bringing manager J into the team."
- Jessica asks players to revitalize the team, but the atmosphere stays bleak
- MMA is scapegoated by Jessica for the state the team is in, he confides in Crank

- at some point there is a row over contracts and prize money sharing to pay coaches
- previously collected contract-based prize money shares are returned to players
- Coach Ryu is told that he has to collect a share from players himself
- Jessica offers players to void contracts and release those who wish to leave
- only GanZi takes team management up on their offer and asks to be released
- TaeJa asks to leave as a non-contracted player

2012-03-13

GanZi and TaeJa leave SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320301

2012-03-17

Signs of Razer no longer sponsoring SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321294

2012-03-23

Interview with SlayerS coaches Cella and Ryu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322951

2012-03-31

Jessica sues Korean netizen for cyber defamation in SlayerS chat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325019

2012-04-03

SlayerS Open House Day in new Gimpo location (announced March 23)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323002

2012-04-16

BoxeR forfeits Code A match to go into rehabilation for shoulder problems
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329531

2012-04-30

"e-Sports Federation" (ESF) is formed by SC2 teams without SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324843
(this is in anticipation of the eSports Transition Conference)

2012-05-02

StarCraft II eSports Transition Conference
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333959

2012-05-18

Coach Ryu leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=338451

May/June 2012

- Crank repeatedly complains to team management about stressful team atmosphere
- Jessica asks BoxeR who is in rehabilation to go back and stay at the team house
- despite Crank even driving players to their matches, the atmosphere remains bad
- after a while, Crank asks to be sent home to rest because of neck problems
- through social media Crank makes it clear that he does not want to play in GSTL
- eventually, Cella tells Jessica that Crank had told him he plans to quit SC2

2012-06-19

Razer confirms they no longer sponsor SlayerS
http://nogamenotalk.com/2012/06/19/starcraft-ii-razer-confirms-slayers-linda-liao-sponsorships-dropped/

2012-06-26

Genius joins SlayerS, Crank leaves SlayerS temporarily
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355813
Clide leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355849

July/August 2012

- Alicia complains about not getting car rides and recognition for results abroad
- he is subsequently sent home to practice alone as he also abstains from GSTL

- Crank starts streaming playing on NA server, mentions neck problems
- eventually says on stream that he is looking for a foreign team
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356290

- Jessica feels betrayed in that Crank left for the wrong reasons
- team atmosphere is at its low point despite the team making the GSTL finals
- Jessica and BoxeR decide to permanently release Crank and demote MMA in absentia
- they also talk to Ryung explaining to him that MMA had become "a cancer to the team"
- Ryung is to go home and practice away from the bad team atmosphere

- when MMA returns to the team house he hears about the demotion from Ryung
- when BoxeR then makes it official to him, MMA says he wants to leave the team
- BoxeR tells him that he is still under SlayerS contract for some time
- this leads to MMA being emotional and calling it a "slave contract"

2012-07-17

MMA demoted to SlayerS B-Team and sent home
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353505

2012-07-28

SlayerS lose to an FXO all-kill in the GSTL finals
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355667
Alicia decides to leave SlayerS after talking to BoxeR
http://esfiworld.com/news/alicia-slayers-disbanding-looking-foreign-team

2012-08-08

KeSPA and ESF agree on trade lock until October 2013
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359009
http://esfiworld.com/news/kespa-esports-fed-agree-trade-lock-until-oct-2013
(ESFI article mentions SlayerS is part of the deal)

August 2012

- negotiations with undisclosed foreign teams are held to possibly transfer MMA
- talks break down over Jessica asking for an incredibly large transfer fee
- MMA is later offered to other teams such as Liquid for no transfer fee at all

- on August 10 Crank has a long phone call with Jessica and BoxeR which is recorded
- in the phone call emotions run high ending in Crank being disrespectful to BoxeR
- BoxeR is shocked that after all the investments his own players turned against him
- losing his passion, Jessica suggests BoxeR take a coaching position at SKT

2012-08-16

BoxeR leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=360913

2012-09-01

SlayerS and Evil Geniuses end partnership
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365237

2012-09-21

Puzzle withdraws from NASL and GSL
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370443

2012-10-17

Jessica announces that SlayerS will disband early November
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041

2012-10-19

ESF apologize to SlayerS, Coach Won steps down as Head of ESF
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376498

2012-11-03

Last GSTL match of SlayerS, team to disband after

2012-11-06

one-year contracts for SlayerS players MMA, Ryung, Alicia, Puzzle, and GanZi end
(GanZi and reportedly Alicia have already been released from contract)

***

nooboon

2602 Posts

October 25 2012 20:10 GMT

Such a sad turn of events for one of the most popular teams in SC2

Thanks for putting this together Proseat

heartlxp

United States1258 Posts

October 25 2012 20:14 GMT

good work, very sad indeed, but it seems like a good learning exp for the young players (don't trust anyone).

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

October 25 2012 20:15 GMT

this is quite an impressive collection.

Poor SlayerS, I'll miss them.

TheEmulator

28089 Posts

October 25 2012 20:16 GMT

wow, that is a lot of stuff.

Kenny_oro

Germany368 Posts

October 25 2012 20:18 GMT

Thanks for doing this - Must have been a lot of work to get this all together.

Ragnarork

France9034 Posts

October 25 2012 20:45 GMT

Very good recap !

I feel a bit less lost...

Very sad, Slayers was great as a team (well, not "internally" apparently)....

Fenrax

United States5018 Posts

October 25 2012 20:56 GMT

Was the beginning of the refusal of other teams to practice with Slayers really already at the end of 2011? I thought this only started with the NASL argument. But if so, then why was there already a practice ban in 2011?

Masamune

Canada3401 Posts

October 25 2012 21:42 GMT

5 stars just cuz ur proseat

I still have to finish my pm! Next time we should make it 20 x 10^-1 questions

Sonter

Sweden35 Posts

October 25 2012 23:41 GMT

#10

SlayerS is gone but BoxeR lives on.
Good writeup.

Whatson

United States5356 Posts

October 25 2012 23:46 GMT

#11

Thank god all this has kinda died down...
Now instead of bitching about who was at fault, we can actually think about the memories SlayerS gave us.

Al Bundy

7257 Posts

October 26 2012 00:22 GMT

#12

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

Temerarious Trout

174 Posts

October 26 2012 00:26 GMT

#13

Great work man~

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

October 26 2012 00:30 GMT

#14

Thanks, guys!

And yeah, it was a lot of work, took me two days to look everything up...

On October 26 2012 05:56 Fenrax wrote:
Was the beginning of the refusal of other teams to practice with Slayers really already at the end of 2011? I thought this only started with the NASL argument. But if so, then why was there already a practice ban in 2011?

This is where Jessica was a bit imprecise and ambiguous in her various interviews. She said the following in her reply to the preliminary response from ESF in this thread:

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4190932&search=3&search_pos=&q=

[...omitted...]

It was temporary?

The NASL Season 3 Finals were in July. [Note: She may mean Season 1 or Season 2, given the other dates in the post]

The penalty on our team started after the preliminaries [Note: she may mean regular season] were over, so it must have began at latest by June?
Maybe even before then, but I forget the exact date when the preliminaries ended.

I knew that it was refusal to practice, but I didn't think it would be so severe.
I decided that I couldn't just let it be, and went to talk to coach Won about the serious ostracizing problem in December of last year (we moved the team house on Dec 28th, and I met him in Yeo-ui-Do where our team house was then).
There, I first informed him of our team's stance.
You told me without shame, that it's cheap of you to do so, but you would resort to it to sanction SlayerS.
I couldn't get you to remove the ban, and I continued to appeal it after we moved our team house.

In February, Ryung needed to prepare for a TvT, but I heard that he couldn't find any Terrans. (At the time, Genius had practiced with MMA for the semi-finals, but when Ryung asked MVP players for practice in TvT, he couldn't get help).
Our team's Terrans had a lot of different things on the schedule, so I told him to practice with his friends on other teams, but I learned that we were still being ostracized and banned from practice.

I gave final notice to Mr. Won who as at tournament in the USA at that time, and I finally received an email on March 27th that it had been lifted.
Temporary? That's at least 10 months by rudimentary calculation.

Do you want me to reveal the truth?
Head Coach Won.
I told you clearly, it was something that a Startale player told one of our players very recently.
For whatever reason, acting like a bully can't be forgiven.

So she's actually saying that there was ostracizing even last year (also in February 2012) all the way back to NASL Season 1. She guesses it started at the latest by June 2011, which fits with her later count of 10 months (June, July, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, March) until allegedly lifted on March 27. Reasons are the same: SlayerS broke boycott of NASL (S1, S3-) and did not join SC2CON/ESF. Also rough start with the GanZi incident in the beginning.

On October 26 2012 06:42 Masamune wrote:
5 stars just cuz ur proseat

I still have to finish my pm! Next time we should make it 20 x 10^-1 questions

Hehe. Yeah, you should.

EienShinwa

United States655 Posts

October 26 2012 00:39 GMT

#15

Is there an audio version of the phone call between Crank, Jessica, and Boxer?

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

October 26 2012 00:55 GMT

#16

On October 26 2012 09:39 EienShinwa wrote:
Is there an audio version of the phone call between Crank, Jessica, and Boxer?

Jessica said this in her interview in response to Crank's statement:

Q: Are you thinking about releasing the audio file if needed?

A: If I need to sue him on the court, I may need to release it.

http://esfiworld.com/news/jessica-my-reputation-line-i-will-end-cranks-apology

Zocat

Germany2229 Posts

October 26 2012 01:10 GMT

#17

Good job overall, but you might want to add a reference to this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377665&currentpage=22#428
basically Manager J trying to get IPL 4 money, but you should watch the short segment yourself.

Aerisky

United States12129 Posts

October 26 2012 02:30 GMT

#18

Oh my god, this timeline reads like a tragedy T__T

Thanks for it though, I've been really confused by all the drama and disagreement over all the events

sorrowptoss

Canada1431 Posts

October 26 2012 02:46 GMT

#19

GG SlayerS, thanks for the memories.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States44327 Posts

October 26 2012 06:25 GMT

#20

That is quite the timeline! Well done

Thanks for the memories, SlayerS ♥

Popkiller

3415 Posts

October 26 2012 20:44 GMT

#21

what can happen in a year...

Hryul

Austria2609 Posts

October 26 2012 21:29 GMT

#22

great work man. really like it.

Presented in this way it just looks . . . cold. Despite emotions running high.

Chaggi

Korea (South)1936 Posts

October 27 2012 11:00 GMT

#23

this is so sad T____T

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts

October 28 2012 07:22 GMT

#24

5/5 sick sick work...

Waxangel

United States33388 Posts

October 28 2012 09:56 GMT

#25

if you watch vids and look at sponsor patches, you can tell within a week or so when Intel and Razer dropped them

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

October 28 2012 17:47 GMT

#26

On October 28 2012 18:56 Waxangel wrote:
if you watch vids and look at sponsor patches, you can tell within a week or so when Intel and Razer dropped them

Yeah, I guess it's pretty clear that the Razer contract lasted for a year, so until February 15, 2012. What I find curious is that it was said to be a personal sponsorship for BoxeR, yet the entire team (all the players) also wore Razer patches, shirts, and hats etc. Maybe there was a team clause with the personal sponsorship just like with Intel.

On October 28 2012 16:22 SeeKeR wrote:
5/5 sick sick work...

Thanks, buddy!

I wondered when you'd see this as a former (now FXO?

) SlayerS fan showing the team icon and all, hehe.

Pucca

Taiwan1280 Posts

November 01 2012 14:29 GMT

#27

SlayerS you will always be my favorite team, looking forward to your last GSTL match!

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

November 03 2012 07:41 GMT

#28

So after 1.5 years of being with SlayerS, Eve finally came out to play for the team in their final GSTL match today.

IMPrime

United States715 Posts

November 03 2012 09:19 GMT

#29

thanks for the timeline

it really helps clear up all the drama that happened and why slayers went down

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

November 03 2012 09:24 GMT

#30

On November 03 2012 18:19 IMPrime wrote:
thanks for the timeline

it really helps clear up all the drama that happened and why slayers went down

My pleasure.

It also helped me understand things better.

*** FAREWELL SLAYERS! ***

MasterKang

United States1373 Posts

November 03 2012 19:20 GMT

#31

it just turns into a shitfest towards the end.. 2011 slayers was so epic

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

November 04 2012 18:28 GMT

#32

clarification, nobody was boycotting NASL in season 1, the boycott was only season 2

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

November 04 2012 22:13 GMT

#33

On November 05 2012 03:28 Xeris wrote:
clarification, nobody was boycotting NASL in season 1, the boycott was only season 2

True. SC2CON wanted to boycott NASL S1, but for one reason or another didn't follow through with it eventually. They did ask SlayerS to not take part, but main sponsor Intel had already paid for flights.

pdd

Australia9933 Posts

November 09 2012 12:46 GMT

#34

I'm confused about the Season 1 NASL thing. Didn't Startale players also participate in it? Squirtle in fact made it to offline finals if I'm correct.

EDIT: Oh wait, didn't read follow up posts.

Iron_

United States389 Posts

November 10 2012 06:06 GMT

#35

Great post, thanks for this recap. What a dramatic situation.

Dr.Sin

Canada1126 Posts

November 10 2012 23:26 GMT

#36

This is an excellent recap. Thank you for putting this together.

yawnoC

United States3704 Posts

November 16 2012 04:49 GMT

#37

Reading this made me wonder ... what happened to Soccer/Ven ... loved him in Wc3 and it's like he just disappeared

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

November 16 2012 05:10 GMT

#38

On November 16 2012 13:49 yawnoC wrote:
Reading this made me wonder ... what happened to Soccer/Ven ... loved him in Wc3 and it's like he just disappeared

according to LP: unknown/retired

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

November 19 2012 21:22 GMT

#39

On November 16 2012 13:49 yawnoC wrote:
Reading this made me wonder ... what happened to Soccer/Ven ... loved him in Wc3 and it's like he just disappeared

I've been wondering that myself. I guess he just slowly faded from the public eye.

Last we heard from him was when he was interviewed after having successfully qualified for Code A for Season 2, only to be dropped to Code B again on April 17 this year. He tried to go through the Code A qualifiers again for Season 3 and Season 4, but did not make it beyond Ro4 and Ro8, respectively.

.Aar

2177 Posts

November 20 2012 22:21 GMT

#40

Thank you for putting this together. As someone who's been out of the loop for a couple months (Clide joined SlayerS!?), this was very helpful.

Sad, though.. ]:

jcroisdale

United States1543 Posts

November 21 2012 01:34 GMT

#41

Wow this was very helpful, read through it and it helps put things in order.

What did Alicia do that would require legal action?

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Germany5113 Posts

November 21 2012 19:12 GMT

#42

On November 21 2012 10:34 jcroisdale wrote:
Wow this was very helpful, read through it and it helps put things in order.

What did Alicia do that would require legal action?

It was never made public so far. Jessica only hinted at something that may or may not come out in the future.

We also still haven't heard where Alicia will be going, even though it was said he had found a new "overseas team".

yuriwalker

Indonesia4 Posts

December 16 2012 01:35 GMT

#43

- this leads to MMA being emotional and calling it a "slave contract"

such a sad news, RIP SlayerS.

Grettin

42381 Posts

December 16 2012 01:47 GMT

#44

Well, you surely spent a lot of time doing this. Amazing work! Really sad that SlayerS disbanded so early.

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Germany5113 Posts

December 17 2012 07:52 GMT

#45

On December 16 2012 10:47 Grettin wrote:
Well, you surely spent a lot of time doing this. Amazing work! Really sad that SlayerS disbanded so early.

Thanks! A lot of the SlayerS players are now on foreign teams, three of them in Axiom alone. So I guess the legacy lives on.

casualman

United States1198 Posts

December 17 2012 07:59 GMT

#46

Sad. Slayers was an integral part of starcraft 2 history--actually, one of the defining moments of the nascent sc2 scene in korea. Had Intel not decided to sponsor a team for Boxer, I don't think starcraft would have gotten as big as it did in korea, even though it is still comparatively small. Actually, I don't even think starcraft would have survived if it wasn't for slayers. I don't have much evidence for this claim--in fact, there's a decent amount of evidence to the contrary--but as a fan of boxer and the mystique surrounding him, I like to believe as such. Slayers fighting!

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Germany5113 Posts

December 18 2012 21:36 GMT

#47

On December 17 2012 16:59 casualman wrote:
Sad. Slayers was an integral part of starcraft 2 history--actually, one of the defining moments of the nascent sc2 scene in korea. Had Intel not decided to sponsor a team for Boxer, I don't think starcraft would have gotten as big as it did in korea, even though it is still comparatively small. Actually, I don't even think starcraft would have survived if it wasn't for slayers. I don't have much evidence for this claim--in fact, there's a decent amount of evidence to the contrary--but as a fan of boxer and the mystique surrounding him, I like to believe as such. Slayers fighting!

I believe you're talking about SC2 when you say "starcraft". Well, BoxeR was actually one of the most influential people to even establish RTS e-sports in Korea in the first place. He helped the competitive Broodwar scene to flourish for over a decade there (even (Wiki)

Air Force ACE was created because of him). Fortunately, he isn't gone. He has just returned to the team he created many years before SlayerS: (Wiki)

SK Telecom T1 (which now also plays SC2).

His much criticized decision to give up his KeSPA progamer license in late 2010 to create a new SC2 team certainly helped the new GOM leagues on the way in terms of popularity (primarily with foreign fans), especially GSTL which SlayerS won twice in 2011. But they weren't the only team. In fact, most of the now well-known non-KeSPA teams had already been established when SlayerS came into being. Nonetheless, you're correct in saying that BoxeR has done a lot for competitive RTS gaming. And I am glad he is still around, even though he may not play as a progamer himself anymore.

Bagration

United States18282 Posts

January 05 2013 04:34 GMT

#48

This rollercoaster of emotions to read. It started off so nostalgic and informative, but got more and more sad as I went on. So sad

Tobblish

Sweden6404 Posts

January 05 2013 05:48 GMT

#49

Thanks for doing this Proseat didn't find out about this until I saw a link in the quote of a posts of yours.
If you don't mind I'll add it to my as well.

T.O.P

469 Posts

January 07 2013 09:27 GMT

#50

Team SlayerS Forever! Thank you

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Germany5113 Posts

January 08 2013 06:36 GMT

#51

On January 05 2013 14:48 Tobblish wrote:
Thanks for doing this Proseat didn't find out about this until I saw a link in the quote of a posts of yours.
If you don't mind I'll add it to my as well.

Be my guest.

Thanks. SlayerS hwaiting!

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Germany5113 Posts

January 27 2013 09:56 GMT

#52

Everyone check out the latest issue of Pony Tails (#7), this SlayerS timeline is featured in it:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395084

TheMagicianSC2

France74 Posts

June 04 2013 20:59 GMT

#53

i will never understand why the bes tsc2 team with best atmosphere and staff ( cella boxer ... ) did not survive to these " mis understandments"

Like this, memories...

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