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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 13:30:10
October 25 2012 19:37 GMT
#1
(I'm posting this as a blog as I wasn't sure where else to put it.)

With so much going on recently regarding SlayerS and the confusion of people (and myself) about what happened when, I decided to put down a timeline of events involving or pertaining to SlayerS with links (where available). I then spent quite some time putting in all the puzzle-piece tidbits (in italic font) I could glean from the following pertinent threads of late (and elsewhere):

+ Show Spoiler [thread links] +
"Slayers to disband"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041
"The head of ESF steps down from his position"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376498
"Crank and MMA's accounts regarding SlayerS"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377311
"Razer's remarks on MMA personal sponsorship cutoff"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377665



DISCLAIMER: This is simply for informational purposes and probably not 100% accurate. Some events overlap, so keep that in mind. No warranty. Subject to change. If I missed anything important, let me know.



SLAYERS TIMELINE

2010-08-14

BoxeR starts playing SC2 under the ID "manofoneway"

November 2010

- SC2CON is formed by existing Korean SC2 teams

2010-11-03

BoxeR's name is removed from KeSPA's official progamer list

2010-11-05

Intel confirmed as personal sponsor for BoxeR + new team
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166525

2010-11-09

SlayerS is formed by BoxeR and Jessica
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=167476
(some sources say October 30, but November 9 is the date on their clan page)

2010-11-30

Initial SlayerS clan roster is announced
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173222

2010-12-09

SlayerS announce pro team recruitment phase
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176504
(note difference between clan and team)

2010-12-20

Initial SlayerS pro team lineup announced
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=178269

December 2010

- SC2CON request SlayerS join the organization

January/February 2011

- GanZi, still on Incredible Miracle, wants to join SlayerS
- Incredible Miracle request GSL suspension for GanZi from SC2CON
- SlayerS meet SC2CON coaches with GanZi and Mvp present to resolve issue
- GanZi is cleared of charges, joins SlayerS shortly before GSL March
- SlayerS is disillusioned by SC2CON, will not join the organization


2011-02-15

Razer sponsors SlayerS_BoxeR
http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/razer-sponsors-slayersboxer

2011-03-24

SlayerS win GSTL March
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204350

March 2011

- NASL Season 1 is announced, BoxeR and others prepare for it
- SC2CON chairman Coach Won asks SlayerS to boycott NASL over flights not paid
- preparations for SlayerS are already made and sponsor Intel offers to pay
- so SlayerS decline the request from SC2CON


2011-05-19

SlayerS win GSTL May
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=224591

2011-05-27

SlayerS Clan changes name to "Starcraft II Team SlayerS"
http://cafe.naver.com/CafeHistoryView.nhn?clubid=21777048

May/June 2011

- SlayerS players take part in NASL Season 1
- SC2CON teams start refusing to practice with SlayerS players


2011-06-14

Eve joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243800

2011-06-24

Long interview with Jessica about the beginnings of SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236783

July/August 2011

- NASL Season 2 is announced
- SC2CON teams plan to boycott NASL again, ask SlayerS to follow suit
- SlayerS agree to join the boycott this time to protest deposits
- Refusal by SC2CON teams to practice with SlayerS players continues


2011-08-09

YellOw joins SlayerS as honorary member
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252792

2011-08-12

SlayerS along with SC2CON teams withdraw from NASL Season 2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253750
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10804657

2011-08-17

CoCa joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255948

2011-08-20

Puzzle joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257035

2011-08-30

ThorZaiN stays at SlayerS team house until September 8
http://twitter.com/EGThorZaIN/status/108801054275153920

September/October 2011

- after ThorZaiN leaves, Coach Ryu joins SlayerS as a personal coach to MMA
- he is a personal friend of MMA's, later coaches other SlayerS players as well
- apparently there is a verbal contract between MMA and Coach Ryu payment-wise

- Crank joins SlayerS after finishing his military service


2011-09-24

SC2CON disbands
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268772

2011-10-21

SlayerS partner with Evil Geniuses
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=276296

2011-10-30

Sleep leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280556

2011-11-06

- players MMA, Ryung, Alicia, Puzzle, GanZi sign one-year contracts with SlayerS
- these contracts are described as necessary to attract new sponsors
- but there is also pressure on all Korean teams to bind their star players
- a prize money sharing clause is part of these contracts, but not enforced
- 9:1 ratio for under 1 million Won and 8:2 ratio for over 2 million Won


2011-11-12

SocceR (Ven) joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285058

2011-11-15

CoCa demoted to SlayerS B-Team
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285580

2011-11-19

Team Slayers: Something Special (MLG Providence Video Special)
http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/79206-team-slayers-something-special

2011-11-28

Clide joins SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=289674

November/December 2011

- Evil Geniuses players stay at the SlayerS team house
+ Show Spoiler +
HuK and IdrA interviewed by CSN while at SlayerS


December 2011

- Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung a.k.a. "Manager J" joins SlayerS
- formerly with sponsor Razer, he has accompanied the team since February 2011
- he is to handle sponsorships and international relations for SlayerS
- fluent in English, he will also operate the Facebook and Twitter accounts

+ Show Spoiler +
"Manager J" in SlayerS uniform translating for MMA in this Blizzard Cup CSN interview


2011-12-28

SlayerS team house moves from downtown Seoul (Yeouido) to Gimpo
http://twitter.com/chuljung/status/152291449424191488
("Manager J" tweeting at HuK about new team house after move)

2011-12-28

- Jessica meets with Coach Won, previously head of now disbanded SC2CON
- she addresses other teams refusing to practice with SlayerS players
- Coach Won: "it's cheap, but we plan to penalize SlayerS in at least this way"
- it's implied that this is all because SlayerS would not join SC2CON


January/February 2012

- SlayerS begin process to negotiate contract extensions with sponsors
- "Manager J" is put in charge of this by team management
- Jessica eventually receives reports of negotiations failing
- SlayerS attempt to continue without main sponsors Razer and Intel

- contracted players are ordered to deposit prize money share (~10 million Won)
- this money is to be used to pay for coaching staff (Cella, Ryu, "Manager J")
- leftovers are to be used on player benefits (winter unforms, recreational gear)


2012-01-16

Golden and Dragon leave SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303605

2012-01-19

Farewell letter from Golden to SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304430

2012-01-26

BoxeR appointed playing head coach of SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306443

February/March 2012

- NASL Season 3 is announced, former SC2CON teams still want to boycott
- SlayerS see no results to their boycotting of Season 2, take part in qualifiers
- 8 SlayerS players successfully qualify for NASL Season 3
- MVP Coach Choi calls Jessica to express his disappointment in SlayerS
- he asks that SlayerS players pull out like qualified FXO players did
- Jessica denies the request, SlayerS players will compete in NASL Season 3

- in a final appeal to stop other teams ostracizing SlayerS, Jessica calls Coach Won
- she says SlayerS players shouldn't suffer, so she would disband the team
- players would transfer but she'd hold the other teams liable for sponsor damages
- on March 27 Jessica receives an e-mail from Coach Won that the ban is lifted
- but SlayerS players later report that the ostracizing is still going on
- it's later revealed that an offical practice ban was in effect March 10 - 27
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16644199

- "Manager J" tells MMA of supposed personal sponsorship embezzlement
- this is a day before his Code S match versus aLive on February 15
- MMA is distraught and eventually confides in Crank asking for advice
- Crank suggests MMA talk to BoxeR, who when asked by MMA has no information
- throughout February team atmosphere seems to tank and strangely disorderly

- Jessica becomes suspicious of "Manager J"'s actions and starts to investigate
- apparently, "Manager J" has been telling sponsors and management different things
- in some instances he was not even in contact with sponsors or handling it poorly
- Jessica also finds out about "Manager J" telling MMA about personal sponsorship
- things point to "Manager J" trying to steal the players and create a new team
- Jessica is distraught that players would not tell her, no longer trusts MMA
- MMA first mentions intent to leave SlayerS for a foreign team


2012-02-28

Jessica tweets about betrayal of someone operating SlayerS Facebook/Twitter accounts
http://i.imgur.com/X8R75.png

2012-03-01

Statement to TL.net: SlayerS Facebook and Twitter no longer official
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=316657
(operated by Hui-Chul "Garfield" Jung a.k.a. "Manager J", previously of Razer)

2012-03-10

SlayerS announce team draft (March 12 - 16)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319224
(Arthur, Dark, KDY may have come from this)

March 2012

- Jessica and Boxer gather the players to apologize about "Manager J"
- "If there was a mistake made by us, it was bringing manager J into the team."
- Jessica asks players to revitalize the team, but the atmosphere stays bleak
- MMA is scapegoated by Jessica for the state the team is in, he confides in Crank

- at some point there is a row over contracts and prize money sharing to pay coaches
- previously collected contract-based prize money shares are returned to players
- Coach Ryu is told that he has to collect a share from players himself
- Jessica offers players to void contracts and release those who wish to leave
- only GanZi takes team management up on their offer and asks to be released
- TaeJa asks to leave as a non-contracted player


2012-03-13

GanZi and TaeJa leave SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320301

2012-03-17

Signs of Razer no longer sponsoring SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321294

2012-03-23

Interview with SlayerS coaches Cella and Ryu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=322951

2012-03-31

Jessica sues Korean netizen for cyber defamation in SlayerS chat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325019

2012-04-03

SlayerS Open House Day in new Gimpo location (announced March 23)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323002

2012-04-16

BoxeR forfeits Code A match to go into rehabilation for shoulder problems
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329531

2012-04-30

"e-Sports Federation" (ESF) is formed by SC2 teams without SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324843
(this is in anticipation of the eSports Transition Conference)

2012-05-02

StarCraft II eSports Transition Conference
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333959

2012-05-18

Coach Ryu leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=338451

May/June 2012

- Crank repeatedly complains to team management about stressful team atmosphere
- Jessica asks BoxeR who is in rehabilation to go back and stay at the team house
- despite Crank even driving players to their matches, the atmosphere remains bad
- after a while, Crank asks to be sent home to rest because of neck problems
- through social media Crank makes it clear that he does not want to play in GSTL
- eventually, Cella tells Jessica that Crank had told him he plans to quit SC2


2012-06-19

Razer confirms they no longer sponsor SlayerS
http://nogamenotalk.com/2012/06/19/starcraft-ii-razer-confirms-slayers-linda-liao-sponsorships-dropped/

2012-06-26

Genius joins SlayerS, Crank leaves SlayerS temporarily
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355813
Clide leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355849

July/August 2012

- Alicia complains about not getting car rides and recognition for results abroad
- he is subsequently sent home to practice alone as he also abstains from GSTL

- Crank starts streaming playing on NA server, mentions neck problems
- eventually says on stream that he is looking for a foreign team
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=356290

- Jessica feels betrayed in that Crank left for the wrong reasons
- team atmosphere is at its low point despite the team making the GSTL finals
- Jessica and BoxeR decide to permanently release Crank and demote MMA in absentia
- they also talk to Ryung explaining to him that MMA had become "a cancer to the team"
- Ryung is to go home and practice away from the bad team atmosphere

- when MMA returns to the team house he hears about the demotion from Ryung
- when BoxeR then makes it official to him, MMA says he wants to leave the team
- BoxeR tells him that he is still under SlayerS contract for some time
- this leads to MMA being emotional and calling it a "slave contract"


2012-07-17

MMA demoted to SlayerS B-Team and sent home
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353505

2012-07-28

SlayerS lose to an FXO all-kill in the GSTL finals
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355667
Alicia decides to leave SlayerS after talking to BoxeR
http://esfiworld.com/news/alicia-slayers-disbanding-looking-foreign-team

2012-08-08

KeSPA and ESF agree on trade lock until October 2013
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359009
http://esfiworld.com/news/kespa-esports-fed-agree-trade-lock-until-oct-2013
(ESFI article mentions SlayerS is part of the deal)

August 2012

- negotiations with undisclosed foreign teams are held to possibly transfer MMA
- talks break down over Jessica asking for an incredibly large transfer fee
- MMA is later offered to other teams such as Liquid for no transfer fee at all

- on August 10 Crank has a long phone call with Jessica and BoxeR which is recorded
- in the phone call emotions run high ending in Crank being disrespectful to BoxeR
- BoxeR is shocked that after all the investments his own players turned against him
- losing his passion, Jessica suggests BoxeR take a coaching position at SKT


2012-08-16

BoxeR leaves SlayerS
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=360913

2012-09-01

SlayerS and Evil Geniuses end partnership
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365237

2012-09-21

Puzzle withdraws from NASL and GSL
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370443

2012-10-17

Jessica announces that SlayerS will disband early November
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376041

2012-10-19

ESF apologize to SlayerS, Coach Won steps down as Head of ESF
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376498

2012-11-03

Last GSTL match of SlayerS, team to disband after

2012-11-06

one-year contracts for SlayerS players MMA, Ryung, Alicia, Puzzle, and GanZi end
(GanZi and reportedly Alicia have already been released from contract)

***


****
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
October 25 2012 20:10 GMT
#2
Such a sad turn of events for one of the most popular teams in SC2 Thanks for putting this together Proseat
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
October 25 2012 20:14 GMT
#3
good work, very sad indeed, but it seems like a good learning exp for the young players (don't trust anyone).
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 25 2012 20:15 GMT
#4
this is quite an impressive collection.

Poor SlayerS, I'll miss them.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28085 Posts
October 25 2012 20:16 GMT
#5
wow, that is a lot of stuff.
Administrator
Kenny_oro
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany368 Posts
October 25 2012 20:18 GMT
#6
Thanks for doing this - Must have been a lot of work to get this all together.
HerO | TaeJa | Sea | Polt | CranK Fighting!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 25 2012 20:45 GMT
#7
Very good recap !

I feel a bit less lost...

Very sad, Slayers was great as a team (well, not "internally" apparently)....
LiquipediaWanderer
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 25 2012 20:56 GMT
#8
Was the beginning of the refusal of other teams to practice with Slayers really already at the end of 2011? I thought this only started with the NASL argument. But if so, then why was there already a practice ban in 2011?
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
October 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#9
5 stars just cuz ur proseat

I still have to finish my pm! Next time we should make it 20 x 10^-1 questions
Sonter
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden35 Posts
October 25 2012 23:41 GMT
#10
SlayerS is gone but BoxeR lives on.
Good writeup.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
October 25 2012 23:46 GMT
#11
Thank god all this has kinda died down...
Now instead of bitching about who was at fault, we can actually think about the memories SlayerS gave us.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 26 2012 00:22 GMT
#12
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
o choro é livre
Temerarious Trout
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
174 Posts
October 26 2012 00:26 GMT
#13
Great work man~
Feel it first, think about it later
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 01:06:13
October 26 2012 00:30 GMT
#14
Thanks, guys! And yeah, it was a lot of work, took me two days to look everything up...

On October 26 2012 05:56 Fenrax wrote:
Was the beginning of the refusal of other teams to practice with Slayers really already at the end of 2011? I thought this only started with the NASL argument. But if so, then why was there already a practice ban in 2011?

This is where Jessica was a bit imprecise and ambiguous in her various interviews. She said the following in her reply to the preliminary response from ESF in this thread:

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4190932&search=3&search_pos=&q=

[...omitted...]

It was temporary?

The NASL Season 3 Finals were in July. [Note: She may mean Season 1 or Season 2, given the other dates in the post]

The penalty on our team started after the preliminaries [Note: she may mean regular season] were over, so it must have began at latest by June?
Maybe even before then, but I forget the exact date when the preliminaries ended.


I knew that it was refusal to practice, but I didn't think it would be so severe.
I decided that I couldn't just let it be, and went to talk to coach Won about the serious ostracizing problem in December of last year (we moved the team house on Dec 28th, and I met him in Yeo-ui-Do where our team house was then).
There, I first informed him of our team's stance.
You told me without shame, that it's cheap of you to do so, but you would resort to it to sanction SlayerS.
I couldn't get you to remove the ban, and I continued to appeal it after we moved our team house.

In February, Ryung needed to prepare for a TvT, but I heard that he couldn't find any Terrans. (At the time, Genius had practiced with MMA for the semi-finals, but when Ryung asked MVP players for practice in TvT, he couldn't get help).
Our team's Terrans had a lot of different things on the schedule, so I told him to practice with his friends on other teams, but I learned that we were still being ostracized and banned from practice.

I gave final notice to Mr. Won who as at tournament in the USA at that time, and I finally received an email on March 27th that it had been lifted.
Temporary? That's at least 10 months by rudimentary calculation.

Do you want me to reveal the truth?
Head Coach Won.
I told you clearly, it was something that a Startale player told one of our players very recently.
For whatever reason, acting like a bully can't be forgiven.

So she's actually saying that there was ostracizing even last year (also in February 2012) all the way back to NASL Season 1. She guesses it started at the latest by June 2011, which fits with her later count of 10 months (June, July, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, March) until allegedly lifted on March 27. Reasons are the same: SlayerS broke boycott of NASL (S1, S3-) and did not join SC2CON/ESF. Also rough start with the GanZi incident in the beginning.


On October 26 2012 06:42 Masamune wrote:
5 stars just cuz ur proseat

I still have to finish my pm! Next time we should make it 20 x 10^-1 questions

Hehe. Yeah, you should.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
October 26 2012 00:39 GMT
#15
Is there an audio version of the phone call between Crank, Jessica, and Boxer?
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 00:55:33
October 26 2012 00:55 GMT
#16
On October 26 2012 09:39 EienShinwa wrote:
Is there an audio version of the phone call between Crank, Jessica, and Boxer?

Jessica said this in her interview in response to Crank's statement:
Q: Are you thinking about releasing the audio file if needed?

A: If I need to sue him on the court, I may need to release it.

http://esfiworld.com/news/jessica-my-reputation-line-i-will-end-cranks-apology

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 26 2012 01:10 GMT
#17
Good job overall, but you might want to add a reference to this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377665&currentpage=22#428
basically Manager J trying to get IPL 4 money, but you should watch the short segment yourself.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
October 26 2012 02:30 GMT
#18
Oh my god, this timeline reads like a tragedy T__T

Thanks for it though, I've been really confused by all the drama and disagreement over all the events
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
October 26 2012 02:46 GMT
#19
GG SlayerS, thanks for the memories.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44076 Posts
October 26 2012 06:25 GMT
#20
That is quite the timeline! Well done

Thanks for the memories, SlayerS ♥
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