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Road to Getting Laid - Part 2

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acgFork
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 17:29:54
October 03 2012 21:10 GMT
#1


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smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
October 03 2012 21:54 GMT
#2
Here's my advice to you, date another girl, or at the very least flirt with other girls. Women, in general, find men who are sought after by other women much more attractive. This will hopefully increase your chances with getting with this girl. I honestly think you're super friend-zoned with her at this point, and there may be no chance in recovery. Making it seem like other women are interested in you, may just get her to be more attracted to you.

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Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
October 03 2012 22:18 GMT
#3
IMHO it's not even about friend zone. It may be getting to the creep zone, which could ruin your chances for every single girl in the school. It's like impossible to redeem yourself if girls start thinking that you're a creep. Asshole is a compliment compared to that.

I like your honest and sincere way of writing, but really if what you write is even vaguely true you literally don't have a chance with this girl for a while. Girls want to act nice so they don't tell it straight up, but it's obvious she has zero interest in you, and is practically avoiding you. If she had interest you, or thought along the lines of 'I like him but he's just shy....' she would still actively try to talk to you, respond to you, hang out with you. She doesn't, she's avoiding you.

If you want to know what I think you absolutely should do to redeem some part of yourself at least, it's to forget your attraction to this girl. The next time you have a time to talk to her alone, just say that you know you've been acting weird, that you apologise and that you'll respect her and give her space. You don't have to sound like a boss while you do it, stutter all you want, just be sincere with your words and I guarantee you that she will respect you way more for it. If you guys really were friends, she'll be glad that the awkwardness is gone, and she'll probably forgive you over time. You may have a chance with her later, but right now you must give her space and grow up as a person before you attempt with her again, no matter how harsh that may sound. Sure, she 'may be the love of your life', but honestly all crushes are like that. If you accept that you cannot date her now and give her space, you'll notice that you can move on over time with relative ease.

Also, I know that getting laid feels like a big thing to you, and something you absolutely want to experience because everyone talks about it. In all honesty, you shouldn't be bothering with that.
What you should be concerned with is 'how can _I_ improve as a person, how can I be a stronger, more confident person around EVERYONE. A stronger, more charismatic version of myself without acting something I'm not.'
You will notice that if you strive to improve in these things without bothering so much about getting laid or dating hottest chicks in school, you will have a better time, get more friends, and overall enjoy life more as a whole. Because you're striving to be a better, stronger version of YOURSELF without trying to act something you are not, you will notice that you can eventually act and talk very casually to any girls and draw their attention naturally because of who you are. You will grow immensely as a person, and with that you get not only laid, but also a lot of male AND female friends. Don't just categorize everyone to 'do I want to sleep with her?'. Talk to everyone, be concerned about them for more than dating them.
I know that this may sound quite abstract to you, and as something 'easier said than done', but really, nobody should expect to turn into a player overnight, or be a loser one day, and a total baller the next. It doesn't happen. It happens over months and years that you look to improve on aspects you lack that you become a confident, sexy person.

I may sound harsh with this, but this I feel, is what you should be concerned about. Oh, and because I know, and everyone else here knows too from personal experience, forgetting about your crush wont be easy, but honestly, just forget about her. Believe me when I say that you lost your chance FOR NOW. If you turn into a total boss overnight, then yeah you could redeem yourself, but let's be real here, like I said, it won't happen overnight. Move on, grow as a person, and if she sees that you're really awesome at some point, you may have a chance with her again. For now though, Apologise and move on. You will at least save your face and a valuable friendship.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 03 2012 22:19 GMT
#4
lol

first of all you're over analyzing everything way too hard. you're making it hard on yourself for no reason other than really wanting to have a girl. you shouldn't be thinking so hard about shit. you shouldn't even care about her.

i may be wrong, but i'm probably not. you don't want to date this girl, you just want a girlfriend.

you don't ask a girl out like a job offer either. i'm over-simplifying this to a disgusting degree but whatever. you don't just ask a girl "hey wanna fuck?". first you establish a basic friendship. then you share common activities. idk go have lunch some place with common friends or some shit, go see a movie as friends, play video games fuck idk lol. solidify your bond and then start flirting with her casually. make her understand that though she's a friend of yours, you find her attractive. you have to find a certain harmony or some shit. you should be able to call her someone immensely offensive and have her laugh at it.

holy shit am i oversimplifying this, i hope you get the general gist of what i'm saying


it's also important to NOT be clingy. just don't care about the girl. you're constantly waiting to see what this girl is going to say to you. just don't care. don't be afraid to ignore her for no reason because nothing turns a girl on more than being ignored. you don't have to be dick about it, just don't say hi in hallways (unless she specifically says hi first), don't text back or something. if you're having a conversation, just find a way to excuse herself. "well nice talking to you, but i have to take care of my grandmother's cat's bath".

the girl will be like wow that guy's grandmother's cat is more important to him than i am. wtf i'm jealous how can that cat be cooler than me? which will indirectly lead her to try to get your attention.



tl;dr
just don't give a fuck
first be friends then good friends then flirt then couple
just don't give a fuck
pay attention to yourself

maru lover forever
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 03 2012 22:39 GMT
#5
He was friends first, then he went torpedo on that boat and sank it to the bottom of the sea. Besides, being friends really isn't a good idea.

People should be honest about their intentions. Don't befriend people who's only interest you have in them is romantic. Don't give me that white-knight "I love her for her person" nonesense, everyone knows when you want someone as a friend, and when you want someone as a romantic partner, neither excludes being interested in a person's person.


The truth is, this girl isn't going to go for you. First you might have appeared to her as friend, now you appear to her as a creep. You aren't going to get a chance to redeem yourself.

Distance yourself from her, try to make new friends and see if there are any other girls that you feel attracted to. Don't try to be their best friend, be nice, in the way you would be to a romantic partner, not your next door neighbour at a BBQ.


Maybe if you distance yourself from this girl, you give time to let your reputation recover, and when next you meet, she might think very differently of you. Trying to build bridges isn't getting you anywhere, you just seem like a bigger creep for trying to befriend her again, whilst she knows exactly what you want. Dishonesty isn't a turn on for anyone.


There are no tricks. You can't get with every girl in the world. You screwed it up, the gates are closed. Move on to the next castle.
Smoot
Profile Joined April 2011
United States128 Posts
October 03 2012 23:29 GMT
#6
So anyhow, you sound like you have an itch that needs scratched. You don't really care about the girl you are going after, or at least you don't show that in what you are writing. All you are worried about is getting your dick wet. Women don't work that way man. Their "first time" thoughts revolve around a romantic atmosphere and being with that someone special.

The best thing you can do is hook up with a loose girl and get rid of your anxiety. Well, correction, the best thing you can do, is realize that a real relationship isn't about sex.

But seriously, just hook up with a girl that knows exactly what your intentions are, and she has the same intentions as you. After you realize that it isn't all that it is cracked up to be, then you can start working on a real relationship with someone.
acgFork
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada397 Posts
October 03 2012 23:50 GMT
#7
Thanks bros. I wrote this blog really fast and should've done a better job, but I'm glad you guys were still able to give me feedback.
acgFork 208
xedric
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3 Posts
October 04 2012 00:38 GMT
#8
You're stinking of desperation right now and that can cause you to not only be friend zoned but creep zoned to your whole school. Give her some space and don't act so desperate.

On October 04 2012 06:10 acgFork wrote:
Here's Part 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=372450

Hey guys,

Everything that could have possibly went wrong, went wrong.

In the text I sent her about how I respect her stance, I also told her that I was making pita chips at work at that moment.

So, when I ended my last blog post, she hadn't replied to that. She has now though.

Went a little something like this: "Thanks for respecting my stance. Pita chips are good."
That was it.

So, I could see that she didn't really want to talk or anything, but I told myself, I'll just talk to her on Monday and it'll be okay. It turned out that it wasn't okay.

Monday, Tuesday and today, she's been looking really kinda expressionless at school. In each class, she's just grey. Between classes today (wednesday), we were at our lockers and I said "So you like pita chips?".. I don't know what I was saying, it just came out and I felt like talking to her so I said that. Now that I think of it, I should've said something like "We should really talk. Want to get coffee?". It could've been that simple, but I shit myself.

First time I ask, she didn't hear/listen, so I say her name and get her attention, she looks at me emotionless. I ask again, smiling, and she replies with: "Uhhh... yeah, I guess.."

I had no idea how to respond to this, so I just walked away. I felt like a retard. I had it all planned out, but I just couldn't execute.

My chances with this girl, that I've like for over 2 years, are probably floating around 0.01 and 0.02% right now.

meteorskunk
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 13:11:35
October 04 2012 13:01 GMT
#9
hahaha is not it funny how COMPLETELY obvious women have to be to finally show us young guys we have ZERO chance. I can turn any small gesture into a good sign. I am impressed by how cold a tone she is taking.

OP to use the card game analogy, you had a bad hand and you played it wrong too.Its a hard truth but it will grow your soul to realize that other people have needs and desires that sometimes you just cannot satisfy.

The best thing you can do (if you're me) is to read an incredibly uplifting book, smoke some weed with friends and lastly enjoy the role of the white knight.

"I respect all creatures of the earth...i tried to fly south to your heat.. but now think of me .. as a wild duck flying backward." <--me trying to rip off my favourite writer. In other words, i think you need to relish the role of good guy greg and seriously FUCK OFF. she will say that eventually if you keep thinking you can fix things. You might be able to be her friend but probably not. give her space..give yourself space.. stay away.. then you'll get laid.

also it helps to kind of "get above" someone. Like if she is shallow... realize she is still just an average victim of the hollywood culture
Girl Blog Credentials: Comfortable talking to some women. Tried the sex once
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32139 Posts
October 04 2012 13:53 GMT
#10
practice until you got this down



and watch the panties drop

seal gets bitches yo
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ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 04 2012 14:26 GMT
#11
On October 04 2012 22:53 QuanticHawk wrote:
practice until you got this down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ateQQc-AgEM

and watch the panties drop

seal gets bitches yo

this guy knows the answer to life too
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SilverWolfe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada173 Posts
October 04 2012 15:24 GMT
#12
You should probably back off her for a while and just try to be friends with her. She pretty clearly isn't interested in you.

I don't mean to burst your bubble but it's in your best interest to find a new girl to chase after. I've seen a lot of guys get depressed after some girl who they have been into for months/years doesn't show interest, and it doesn't make sense. There's a whole world of women out there, just because one doesn't like you doesn't mean it's hopeless.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 04 2012 16:10 GMT
#13
Considering your blog is called, "Road to Getting Laid", you're approaching this in the worst way possible. Stop looking for a girlfriend. Sure, there's a girl you have a huge crush on, but if you're in such a shitty outlook, you're not going to be attractive to her, and right now, everything says you're not attractive to her at all. Honestly, you sound extremely desperate, or an asshole. Kind of both. I get that you're being sincere since it's your blog, but stop thinking thinking about getting laid so much. It's a horrible outlook.

She doesn't like you in the same way you like her, and it's already really debatable whether you actually like her or you just find her hot or you just want a girlfriend. If her initial stance is already 'eh, not really interested', there was never a chance, especially after 2 years of nothing. It's not going to become something overnight unless one of you two have some ridiculous transformation. Being at 0.01% is generous. 0% is realistic.

Next, you never confess your insecurities, ever, if you want to not ruin a chance with a new girl. Sure, you will have some really good girl friends who you can talk to about pretty bad shit going on in your life, but that's why they're friends. Do you know how attractive you look the second you start being needy, or start being insecure? Man up. And she's not being emotionless, she's avoiding you. You don't talk to someone normally when they confess their feelings for you when you have no interest in being with them since you thought you were just a friend the whole time. It makes the entire friendship seem like a lie. Give her some space.

Apologize, then pick yourself up and move on. You're only in high school, focus on improving yourself please, instead of getting laid. Listen to Ahzz.
There is no one like you in the universe.
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 16:51:54
October 04 2012 16:48 GMT
#14
On October 04 2012 07:19 Incognoto wrote:
lol

first of all you're over analyzing everything way too hard. you're making it hard on yourself for no reason other than really wanting to have a girl. you shouldn't be thinking so hard about shit. you shouldn't even care about her.

i may be wrong, but i'm probably not. you don't want to date this girl, you just want a girlfriend.

you don't ask a girl out like a job offer either. i'm over-simplifying this to a disgusting degree but whatever. you don't just ask a girl "hey wanna fuck?". first you establish a basic friendship. then you share common activities. idk go have lunch some place with common friends or some shit, go see a movie as friends, play video games fuck idk lol. solidify your bond and then start flirting with her casually. make her understand that though she's a friend of yours, you find her attractive. you have to find a certain harmony or some shit. you should be able to call her someone immensely offensive and have her laugh at it.

holy shit am i oversimplifying this, i hope you get the general gist of what i'm saying


it's also important to NOT be clingy. just don't care about the girl. you're constantly waiting to see what this girl is going to say to you. just don't care. don't be afraid to ignore her for no reason because nothing turns a girl on more than being ignored. you don't have to be dick about it, just don't say hi in hallways (unless she specifically says hi first), don't text back or something. if you're having a conversation, just find a way to excuse herself. "well nice talking to you, but i have to take care of my grandmother's cat's bath".

the girl will be like wow that guy's grandmother's cat is more important to him than i am. wtf i'm jealous how can that cat be cooler than me? which will indirectly lead her to try to get your attention.



tl;dr
just don't give a fuck
first be friends then good friends then flirt then couple
just don't give a fuck
pay attention to yourself



There's two extremes of behavior that lots of men use when it comes to women. On one hand, they choose to act egotistical and emotionally unavailable, or the asshole - which only attracts other emotionally unavailable and insecure girls. And on the other hand, you have the suck up or the nice guy, who caters to every need the woman has, and ends up getting friend zoned or whatever you want to call it.

Both of these behaviors just scream insecurity. Treating a girl differently because you want to fuck her just shows that you don't have the self confidence to get her with who you really are. It's not easy, but try being yourself AROUND EVERYONE AT ALL TIMES (someone touched on that in an earlier post). Work on being confident, and just work on yourself. Just by helping yourself and becoming a better person, you will attract people like a magnet without even having the intentions (like you do now). Like I said, it's not easy and everyone is insecure or secure to a greater or lesser extent. What's important is that you fake it till you make it; set some personal goals for yourself and how you can accomplish them, and then set out with swift action.
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 04 2012 22:57 GMT
#15
it's not being emotionally unavailable or whatever it is you're trying to describe. the girl just needs to understand that she isn't the center of your world. that you have other shit in your life more interesting than she is. you aren't supposed to attempt to interact with her at every single possible moment, on the contrary
maru lover forever
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