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Savi[wOk]
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 01:54:32
September 07 2012 01:48 GMT
#1
*My opinions, please if you want to be critical that is fine, I think it is important to have a strong point of view, even if i disagree.

The formula of broodwar was amazing. It has 3 races with completely different ways of attacking. All kinds of units, which allowed for the game to become how it is today.
To be honest, no unit seems to have been downgraded in their graphics or design in broodwar.
Of course the Reaver and a few units have been weakened to make gameplay more fair, I say each unit in the game is well worth its weight, including the scout.

In sc2 a lot of units seem to be, 2 dimensional even though it is a 3-d game. How can that be? Look at the graphics, the game engine, the sounds and the interface. Well for one, units in the game have been weakened so much that they barely do any damage including splash and explosive damage. It's like the game developers in order to keep up with balancing the game had to make each and every unit pathetic and too simplistic, not realistic.

The original concept ideas of starcraft 2 where great. Although each and every unit was a bit too strong, you could see where it was going.

Look at the viking for example. It shoots 2 heavy rockets air to air and can land in order to fight. If we all look at it, we will all be able to tell that this amazing anti air unit should have been able to shoot faster missiles into a flurry, but instead it has been turned into a boring anti air unit that shoots 2 heavy rockets slowly in order to be balanced..

The banshee should have been able to shoot 2 units at once or do splash damage.

The thor was a mega unit, although a bit gimicky in my opinion, I thought that it was an amazing giant grandam robot that had a hard time turning around, making it more realistic.

Nukes are weaker, and don't show as much genocidal effects as they did in bw.

Siege tanks in my opinion should not have been put into sc2, terran could have been an air dominating race and be tactical on the ground, although immobile on the ground, the air units could have been the bread and butter.

Marines just seem to be lacking in this war game. Give them bayonets to attack melee zerglings, maybe allow them to throw 1 grenade into a ball of units before kneeling down to shoot their rifles.

The zergling, should be more vicious and look like a parasite taking over its host from a distant.

The once proud hydralisk is fat, ugly and shoots needles... I say make it faster, squirmier and have stomach acid shoot out as the needles launch, and give it a melee attack like the bw cinematics.

Ultralisk, stomp units into the dirt! and and and and!

Mutalisk, eh..Don't like em in sc2

Void ray, I have mixed feelings about this unit.

Mothership, Eh. invisible units...okay
Invisible base...wtf?

This SC2 review a bit late you say?
Well...your probably right.
I'll probably buy HotS and love it and then try to delete this post to take back what I said and not embarrass myself. Is it too late to do all this??
Maybe, maybe we can have a group remake sc2 in the campaign editor and balance it out that way instead of having blizzard do it for us.
Maybe I'm just a crying gamer nerd who is just alone and alone and alone...Maybe that is true...But you guys are awesome TL!

Edit:Give some marines an eye patch and some zealots 1 cyber blade, cmon! makes the mix look cooler!
And some starships that have grafitti


**
Lets play starcraft
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 07 2012 02:03 GMT
#2
Erm... what? I hope you're joking, here.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Savi[wOk]
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States81 Posts
September 07 2012 02:07 GMT
#3
I'm just saying sc2 could have gone in a completely different direction and still maintained some sort of balance.
Lets play starcraft
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
September 07 2012 03:22 GMT
#4
I agree BW > SC2 but I can't take this post seriously.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
September 07 2012 04:49 GMT
#5
nukes need to be buffed ^_^ imo
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
September 07 2012 05:06 GMT
#6
one of the strangest posts on this topic
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
September 07 2012 05:34 GMT
#7
5/5 totally agree with you
RIP KT.Violet
cosine
Profile Joined September 2011
313 Posts
September 07 2012 05:59 GMT
#8
straight up, are you drunk? be even and direct w/ me.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 07 2012 06:08 GMT
#9
lol, nice blog. While I agree BW is better in regards to unit design, some of your points are rather umm funny
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Savi[wOk]
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 07:11:05
September 07 2012 06:38 GMT
#10
I appreciate that guys.
Didn't know it was funny until after I read it.
Lets play starcraft
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 07 2012 12:38 GMT
#11
StarCraft 2 is most definitely not a 3D game... it just creates the illusion of 3D.

I'm having a very hard time wording a reply that isn't overly offensive. Let's put it this way, your solution to make StarCraft 2 more interesting is to make everything look cooler in the way that a 13 year old cod kiddy / michael bay fan would? Because overkill and more explosions and more weapons is always better? Instead of, I don't know, strategical and tactical depth? This is particularly confusing since you have made a BW blog so one would assume you have played BW and at least to a small extent are familiar with what was so good about it... I guess not.

If this is a troll then good job, you got me. ._.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
September 07 2012 16:58 GMT
#12
On September 07 2012 21:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
StarCraft 2 is most definitely not a 3D game... it just creates the illusion of 3D.

I'm having a very hard time wording a reply that isn't overly offensive. Let's put it this way, your solution to make StarCraft 2 more interesting is to make everything look cooler in the way that a 13 year old cod kiddy / michael bay fan would? Because overkill and more explosions and more weapons is always better? Instead of, I don't know, strategical and tactical depth? This is particularly confusing since you have made a BW blog so one would assume you have played BW and at least to a small extent are familiar with what was so good about it... I guess not.

If this is a troll then good job, you got me. ._.


Why do you have to be so Romanian?
RIP KT.Violet
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 17:15:11
September 07 2012 17:03 GMT
#13
On September 08 2012 01:58 qtiehunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 21:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
StarCraft 2 is most definitely not a 3D game... it just creates the illusion of 3D.

I'm having a very hard time wording a reply that isn't overly offensive. Let's put it this way, your solution to make StarCraft 2 more interesting is to make everything look cooler in the way that a 13 year old cod kiddy / michael bay fan would? Because overkill and more explosions and more weapons is always better? Instead of, I don't know, strategical and tactical depth? This is particularly confusing since you have made a BW blog so one would assume you have played BW and at least to a small extent are familiar with what was so good about it... I guess not.

If this is a troll then good job, you got me. ._.


Why do you have to be so Romanian?


Lol I'm not gonna take this from someone with 1/4 my post count.

Also when you come into contact with as many stupid people as I do you begin to question what's genuine and what's not (trolling). ~_~
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
September 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#14
On September 08 2012 02:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 01:58 qtiehunter wrote:
On September 07 2012 21:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
StarCraft 2 is most definitely not a 3D game... it just creates the illusion of 3D.

I'm having a very hard time wording a reply that isn't overly offensive. Let's put it this way, your solution to make StarCraft 2 more interesting is to make everything look cooler in the way that a 13 year old cod kiddy / michael bay fan would? Because overkill and more explosions and more weapons is always better? Instead of, I don't know, strategical and tactical depth? This is particularly confusing since you have made a BW blog so one would assume you have played BW and at least to a small extent are familiar with what was so good about it... I guess not.

If this is a troll then good job, you got me. ._.


Why do you have to be so Romanian?


Lol I'm not gonna take this from someone with 1/4 my post count.

Also when you come into contact with as many stupid people as I do you begin to question what's genuine and what's not (trolling). ~_~


There is so much wrong about your post lol
RIP KT.Violet
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 08 2012 05:31 GMT
#15
On September 08 2012 02:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 01:58 qtiehunter wrote:
On September 07 2012 21:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
StarCraft 2 is most definitely not a 3D game... it just creates the illusion of 3D.

I'm having a very hard time wording a reply that isn't overly offensive. Let's put it this way, your solution to make StarCraft 2 more interesting is to make everything look cooler in the way that a 13 year old cod kiddy / michael bay fan would? Because overkill and more explosions and more weapons is always better? Instead of, I don't know, strategical and tactical depth? This is particularly confusing since you have made a BW blog so one would assume you have played BW and at least to a small extent are familiar with what was so good about it... I guess not.

If this is a troll then good job, you got me. ._.


Why do you have to be so Romanian?


Lol I'm not gonna take this from someone with 1/4 my post count.

Also when you come into contact with as many stupid people as I do you begin to question what's genuine and what's not (trolling). ~_~


My brother Charlie works in Romania. He trains dragons.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 08 2012 07:35 GMT
#16
On September 08 2012 02:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 01:58 qtiehunter wrote:
On September 07 2012 21:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
StarCraft 2 is most definitely not a 3D game... it just creates the illusion of 3D.

I'm having a very hard time wording a reply that isn't overly offensive. Let's put it this way, your solution to make StarCraft 2 more interesting is to make everything look cooler in the way that a 13 year old cod kiddy / michael bay fan would? Because overkill and more explosions and more weapons is always better? Instead of, I don't know, strategical and tactical depth? This is particularly confusing since you have made a BW blog so one would assume you have played BW and at least to a small extent are familiar with what was so good about it... I guess not.

If this is a troll then good job, you got me. ._.


Why do you have to be so Romanian?


Lol I'm not gonna take this from someone with 1/4 my post count.

Also when you come into contact with as many stupid people as I do you begin to question what's genuine and what's not (trolling). ~_~


I can't let you respond to him that way as someone with only 1/3 of my post count.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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