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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
August 29 2012 09:57 GMT
#21
nkr:
Acting nice never got me anywhere, and it has never changed anyones attitude from my experience. I guess I just lost faith.


It's called empathy, the whole point the OP is making is that humanity sucks because people lack empathy.


Presenting these side by side, it seems to me you want change and improvement, but don't want to commit to being part of the solution. To be completely real with you - get more consistency between what you want and what you do. a.k.a. Practice what you preach.

Are you satisfied with how things are, right now? Sure doesn't seem like it. Seeking to only really serve yourself trains you to only respond to a specific type of satisfaction - the type of guilty pleasure you get from only looking out for yourself, serving yourself and doing what's best for you, regardless of how other people feel. That's exactly how the angry kids on the internet do it. Neither of you are satisfied. Here's an idea then: try something else!


If you believe people should be better, and know that is a worthy and true task, fight for it! Be part of the change! Yes I know it's hard and challenging. Denying yourself, surely, saccrificing your own pleasure and time, for the sake of serving others, is most definately not gratifying and 'pleasureable'. But that's the point. But if you stick to it, and actually try hard enough rather than giving up before the seeds you've planted have grown to bear fruit, you'll get a type of satisfaction that is completely different than the 'pleasure-for-me' I was describing. This, is actual satisfaction. And only IT is worth it. That other stuff is a lie, a fake, a hack, and a joke compared to the serenity and assurance generated from doing the right thing. Try it. And try it again. You will be properly satisfied, I promise.
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 29 2012 10:08 GMT
#22
Acting nice never got me anywhere, and it has never changed anyones attitude from my experience. I guess I just lost faith.

Eh,how about maybe actually be nice and not act?
Sure some people are genuine douche bags but a lot of people will appreciate if you are kind to them.
Cackle™
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 10:11:43
August 29 2012 10:10 GMT
#23
On August 29 2012 18:57 bITt.mAN wrote:
nkr:
Show nested quote +
Acting nice never got me anywhere, and it has never changed anyones attitude from my experience. I guess I just lost faith.


Show nested quote +
It's called empathy, the whole point the OP is making is that humanity sucks because people lack empathy.


Presenting these side by side, it seems to me you want change and improvement, but don't want to commit to being part of the solution. To be completely real with you - get more consistency between what you want and what you do. a.k.a. Practice what you preach.

Are you satisfied with how things are, right now? Sure doesn't seem like it. Seeking to only really serve yourself trains you to only respond to a specific type of satisfaction - the type of guilty pleasure you get from only looking out for yourself, serving yourself and doing what's best for you, regardless of how other people feel. That's exactly how the angry kids on the internet do it. Neither of you are satisfied. Here's an idea then: try something else!


If you believe people should be better, and know that is a worthy and true task, fight for it! Be part of the change! Yes I know it's hard and challenging. Denying yourself, surely, saccrificing your own pleasure and time, for the sake of serving others, is most definately not gratifying and 'pleasureable'. But that's the point. But if you stick to it, and actually try hard enough rather than giving up before the seeds you've planted have grown to bear fruit, you'll get a type of satisfaction that is completely different than the 'pleasure-for-me' I was describing. This, is actual satisfaction. And only IT is worth it. That other stuff is a lie, a fake, a hack, and a joke compared to the serenity and assurance generated from doing the right thing. Try it. And try it again. You will be properly satisfied, I promise.


I actually didn't write that. Don't take someone elses interpretation and judge me by it. I'm not asking people to change, I doubt it's even possible, I just stated my own frustration and sadness over what I observe.

Edit: by "lost faith" I mean that I used to believe people were good, but now I don't.
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 29 2012 10:12 GMT
#24
On August 29 2012 19:08 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
Acting nice never got me anywhere, and it has never changed anyones attitude from my experience. I guess I just lost faith.

Eh,how about maybe actually be nice and not act?
Sure some people are genuine douche bags but a lot of people will appreciate if you are kind to them.


Don't read it so literally. By acting nice I meant actually being nice.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 10:14:03
August 29 2012 10:13 GMT
#25
On August 29 2012 19:10 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 18:57 bITt.mAN wrote:
nkr:
Acting nice never got me anywhere, and it has never changed anyones attitude from my experience. I guess I just lost faith.


It's called empathy, the whole point the OP is making is that humanity sucks because people lack empathy.


Presenting these side by side, it seems to me you want change and improvement, but don't want to commit to being part of the solution. To be completely real with you - get more consistency between what you want and what you do. a.k.a. Practice what you preach.

Are you satisfied with how things are, right now? Sure doesn't seem like it. Seeking to only really serve yourself trains you to only respond to a specific type of satisfaction - the type of guilty pleasure you get from only looking out for yourself, serving yourself and doing what's best for you, regardless of how other people feel. That's exactly how the angry kids on the internet do it. Neither of you are satisfied. Here's an idea then: try something else!


If you believe people should be better, and know that is a worthy and true task, fight for it! Be part of the change! Yes I know it's hard and challenging. Denying yourself, surely, saccrificing your own pleasure and time, for the sake of serving others, is most definately not gratifying and 'pleasureable'. But that's the point. But if you stick to it, and actually try hard enough rather than giving up before the seeds you've planted have grown to bear fruit, you'll get a type of satisfaction that is completely different than the 'pleasure-for-me' I was describing. This, is actual satisfaction. And only IT is worth it. That other stuff is a lie, a fake, a hack, and a joke compared to the serenity and assurance generated from doing the right thing. Try it. And try it again. You will be properly satisfied, I promise.


I actually didn't write that. Don't take someone elses interpretation and judge me by it. I'm not asking people to change, I doubt it's even possible, I just stated my own frustration and sadness over what I observe.

Edit: by "lost faith" I mean that I used to believe people were good, but now I don't.

You're more or less saying "People suck because they lack empathy. And I do too."

The fact is, tons of people are egoistical douchebags, but tons of people aren't. Unfortunately, you seem to have a problem with the first group, while being part of it.
Pro gamer registerin
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
August 29 2012 10:13 GMT
#26
i, as 1/7 000 000 of humanity , want to be judged based on my action , not on action of some other 1/7 000 000 .

Look at yourself. Hatefull people made you hate people.I did nothing wrong to you and you hate me. Are you any better?



cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
August 29 2012 10:13 GMT
#27
you can decide for yourself what is real.
the people you meet in your rl or the trolls (which exist in great numbers in the internet, thats because they use it as emotional trashcan) in the internet.
answer should be obvious for everyone that still has a connection to reality.
hint:
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Live and let live
cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
August 29 2012 10:15 GMT
#28
On August 29 2012 19:13 Pro gamer registerin wrote:
i, as 1/7 000 000 of humanity , want to be judged based on my action , not on action of some other 1/7 000 000 .

Look at yourself. Hatefull people made you hate people.I did nothing wrong to you and you hate me. Are you any better?


sorry to be an asshole (as the op would propably see it), but you got it a bit wrong with the zeros..
Live and let live
Pro gamer registerin
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
August 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#29
On August 29 2012 19:15 cari-kira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 19:13 Pro gamer registerin wrote:
i, as 1/7 000 000 of humanity , want to be judged based on my action , not on action of some other 1/7 000 000 .

Look at yourself. Hatefull people made you hate people.I did nothing wrong to you and you hate me. Are you any better?


sorry to be an asshole (as the op would propably see it), but you got it a bit wrong with the zeros..


The Destructor of Points!
cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
August 29 2012 10:21 GMT
#30
im so sorry >
Live and let live
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
August 29 2012 10:22 GMT
#31
And yet here you are, posting on a forum on the internet how much you hate everyone.

You are part of the problem, OP.
Pro gamer registerin
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
August 29 2012 10:23 GMT
#32
On August 29 2012 19:21 cari-kira wrote:
im so sorry >


you know..i am really nice guy , i would never hurt a fly ,full of emphaty and understanding, but i am going to kill for this.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 29 2012 10:28 GMT
#33
On August 29 2012 19:13 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 19:10 nkr wrote:
On August 29 2012 18:57 bITt.mAN wrote:
nkr:
Acting nice never got me anywhere, and it has never changed anyones attitude from my experience. I guess I just lost faith.


It's called empathy, the whole point the OP is making is that humanity sucks because people lack empathy.


Presenting these side by side, it seems to me you want change and improvement, but don't want to commit to being part of the solution. To be completely real with you - get more consistency between what you want and what you do. a.k.a. Practice what you preach.

Are you satisfied with how things are, right now? Sure doesn't seem like it. Seeking to only really serve yourself trains you to only respond to a specific type of satisfaction - the type of guilty pleasure you get from only looking out for yourself, serving yourself and doing what's best for you, regardless of how other people feel. That's exactly how the angry kids on the internet do it. Neither of you are satisfied. Here's an idea then: try something else!


If you believe people should be better, and know that is a worthy and true task, fight for it! Be part of the change! Yes I know it's hard and challenging. Denying yourself, surely, saccrificing your own pleasure and time, for the sake of serving others, is most definately not gratifying and 'pleasureable'. But that's the point. But if you stick to it, and actually try hard enough rather than giving up before the seeds you've planted have grown to bear fruit, you'll get a type of satisfaction that is completely different than the 'pleasure-for-me' I was describing. This, is actual satisfaction. And only IT is worth it. That other stuff is a lie, a fake, a hack, and a joke compared to the serenity and assurance generated from doing the right thing. Try it. And try it again. You will be properly satisfied, I promise.


I actually didn't write that. Don't take someone elses interpretation and judge me by it. I'm not asking people to change, I doubt it's even possible, I just stated my own frustration and sadness over what I observe.

Edit: by "lost faith" I mean that I used to believe people were good, but now I don't.

You're more or less saying "People suck because they lack empathy. And I do too."

The fact is, tons of people are egoistical douchebags, but tons of people aren't. Unfortunately, you seem to have a problem with the first group, while being part of it.


I believe people have empathy when it benefits them. I guess it comes down to how you define empathy
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 29 2012 10:29 GMT
#34
On August 29 2012 19:13 Pro gamer registerin wrote:
i, as 1/7 000 000 of humanity , want to be judged based on my action , not on action of some other 1/7 000 000 .

Look at yourself. Hatefull people made you hate people.I did nothing wrong to you and you hate me. Are you any better?





No, I never claimed to be any better. I am a person as any other. I have a dark side like anyone else, but I don't dislike it any less.
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 29 2012 10:32 GMT
#35
On August 29 2012 19:22 Jinsho wrote:
And yet here you are, posting on a forum on the internet how much you hate everyone.

You are part of the problem, OP.


I never claimed to be the saviour of humanity or some saint. I am a part of humanity, and humanity is the problem in my eyes. Of course I am a part of the problem.
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cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
August 29 2012 10:33 GMT
#36
On August 29 2012 19:23 Pro gamer registerin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 19:21 cari-kira wrote:
im so sorry >


you know..i am really nice guy , i would never hurt a fly ,full of emphaty and understanding, but i am going to kill for this.


thats exactly what i intended with this:p

Live and let live
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 29 2012 10:34 GMT
#37
On August 29 2012 19:28 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 19:13 Tobberoth wrote:
On August 29 2012 19:10 nkr wrote:
On August 29 2012 18:57 bITt.mAN wrote:
nkr:
Acting nice never got me anywhere, and it has never changed anyones attitude from my experience. I guess I just lost faith.


It's called empathy, the whole point the OP is making is that humanity sucks because people lack empathy.


Presenting these side by side, it seems to me you want change and improvement, but don't want to commit to being part of the solution. To be completely real with you - get more consistency between what you want and what you do. a.k.a. Practice what you preach.

Are you satisfied with how things are, right now? Sure doesn't seem like it. Seeking to only really serve yourself trains you to only respond to a specific type of satisfaction - the type of guilty pleasure you get from only looking out for yourself, serving yourself and doing what's best for you, regardless of how other people feel. That's exactly how the angry kids on the internet do it. Neither of you are satisfied. Here's an idea then: try something else!


If you believe people should be better, and know that is a worthy and true task, fight for it! Be part of the change! Yes I know it's hard and challenging. Denying yourself, surely, saccrificing your own pleasure and time, for the sake of serving others, is most definately not gratifying and 'pleasureable'. But that's the point. But if you stick to it, and actually try hard enough rather than giving up before the seeds you've planted have grown to bear fruit, you'll get a type of satisfaction that is completely different than the 'pleasure-for-me' I was describing. This, is actual satisfaction. And only IT is worth it. That other stuff is a lie, a fake, a hack, and a joke compared to the serenity and assurance generated from doing the right thing. Try it. And try it again. You will be properly satisfied, I promise.


I actually didn't write that. Don't take someone elses interpretation and judge me by it. I'm not asking people to change, I doubt it's even possible, I just stated my own frustration and sadness over what I observe.

Edit: by "lost faith" I mean that I used to believe people were good, but now I don't.

You're more or less saying "People suck because they lack empathy. And I do too."

The fact is, tons of people are egoistical douchebags, but tons of people aren't. Unfortunately, you seem to have a problem with the first group, while being part of it.


I believe people have empathy when it benefits them. I guess it comes down to how you define empathy

People might very well be egoistical by nature, but it doesn't matter if you do nice things because of egoistical reasons, because you still did a nice thing. Let's say you fall on your ass when walking on some ice. I see you fall, come over and help you up. Does it really matter if I did it to feel proud about how nice I am, or because I want to hear you say thank you? No, it's irrelevant, it still helps you, my reasons for helping you don't affect you negatively.

Some people actively act nice, all the time, because they have noticed great benefits from it (which is egoistical), and these also happen to be awesome people.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
August 29 2012 10:40 GMT
#38
On August 29 2012 19:32 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 19:22 Jinsho wrote:
And yet here you are, posting on a forum on the internet how much you hate everyone.

You are part of the problem, OP.


I never claimed to be the saviour of humanity or some saint. I am a part of humanity, and humanity is the problem in my eyes. Of course I am a part of the problem.


To be harsh: ok, I can understand its frustrating, and some times you just need to vent. But there's more you can do about it than just complain, you CAN do something about it, but for that you'd have do work at something that doesn't directly serve yourself, if you can handle that hardcore-mode-empathy.
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 29 2012 10:56 GMT
#39
On August 29 2012 19:40 bITt.mAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 19:32 nkr wrote:
On August 29 2012 19:22 Jinsho wrote:
And yet here you are, posting on a forum on the internet how much you hate everyone.

You are part of the problem, OP.


I never claimed to be the saviour of humanity or some saint. I am a part of humanity, and humanity is the problem in my eyes. Of course I am a part of the problem.


To be harsh: ok, I can understand its frustrating, and some times you just need to vent. But there's more you can do about it than just complain, you CAN do something about it, but for that you'd have do work at something that doesn't directly serve yourself, if you can handle that hardcore-mode-empathy.


Do you believe that you can change how people function? I am not so sure it's possible, and even if it were, how? The obvious starting point is one self, but even if you stop yourself from the behaviour you despise, are you actually changing yourself? Or are you rather just choosing a different action at that point in time to make yourself bigger in your own eyes?
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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
August 29 2012 10:56 GMT
#40
Welcome to the club OP.

I dont understand why some people consider it to be perfectly fine to basically harass and abuse complete strangers as much as they want. I dont understand why people find joy in scarring others.

I wish I was a creepy stalker so I'd find out where every single immature teenager/ punk / asshole who acts like this lives. Then I'd kick him in his balls. Not because ranting and immature namecalling gets to me, because It doesnt, but because these assholes cant act like decent human beings and deserve some kicking in the crotch.
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