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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 01:13:56
July 21 2012 14:35 GMT
#1
So I was reading over all the stuff about TL KnowHow and all about the ideas of sharing things you know about or love, and it occurred to me that I very seldom talk about things that aren't related to videogames on my blog. Here's a post about something else I love that I think has shaped who I am a lot more than I really give it credit for, I hope you enjoy it.

Years ago, when I played capoeira every week, I felt as though I was always meeting people who hadn’t played in years, people trying to recover the strength and flexibility that they had worked so hard for in their adult lives.

I remember watching them, with their rusty movements and their stiff joints, the hips that won’t allow for wide rotation and core strength eroded too much to move as gracefully as once they would have. How could they have let this happen to them? In my arrogance, I remember telling myself, “I will never be those people.”




I love this game, especially the playfulness of it. Most of the games you see people play on YouTube seem to be really showy, standing miles apart, very little conversation between two players, but this is the sort of game I think I wish I could see more of.


I had played with grace and vitality; I had the flexibility a couple of years of taekwon do had lent me, and spent a year or so forcing myself not to fall into familiar movements, to follow the strange arcs of movements that felt odd and unbalanced, to break the rigidity of motion it had taken so long to cultivate.

There had been no conscious decision not to play anymore, just a gradual erosion, first by late classes during college, and then by a job that required I keep hours that weren’t condusive to attending classes. Neither should have stopped me playing, but both did. I spent the best part of six years “getting around to going back,” without ever quite managing to do it.

Six weeks ago a friend mentioned that he was attending a new class. The students were all new, the class was focussed on having solid understandings and good expression. I took the opportunity to follow along. We train hard, twice a week, the classes longer than I was ever used to, but it’s worth it for the way you feel after a month or so of hard work.

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This image is from The Little Capoeira Book, whose ink drawings really communicated a sense of the movement of the game to me in a time when I didn't have very much of a grounding in it. I think the little book was a big part of what made me enjoy capoeira as much as I've come to.


Before you know it, you’re standing outside the gym in the rain, the horizontal haze of it drifting in the evening breeze to head along back and shoulders, sliding down your arms along the shallow dips between muscles you didn’t have a couple of weeks ago, haven’t had in years, if you’ve had them before at all.

The rain is cool on skin so hot it doesn’t feel like it could be my own; a body shouldn’t be this hot. The chill of the night rain is welcome, so I walk home in a soaked-through tshirt, my jacket in one hand, my hair no wetter than it had been during practice, saturated with a slick of sweat, sustained exertion in too close a space. The truth is that, for all the slaps, the misses and the clumsiness, there’s no way I could do anything else and enjoy it this way.

I’ve loved it all, the twinges in my knees from a poorly balanced negativa, the stray kicks that cut in under a sloppy esquiva, and the blood blisters, picked up on varnished floors and carpets we should never have played on, but that the space demanded.



For anyone curious, here are another few games that are a lot of fun to watch.


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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 21 2012 14:45 GMT
#2
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 15:07:54
July 21 2012 15:07 GMT
#3
Mind blown, probe. Still looks like a ninja or wizard to me.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 15:42:45
July 21 2012 15:15 GMT
#4
How nice. My only "knowledge" of capoeira prior to reading this came from Tekken. I little appreciated the grace involved. There's a capoeira club down the road from me here; might just take a look next time I pass by.
Clip, clop, Camelot.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 21 2012 15:38 GMT
#5
On July 22 2012 00:07 Slayer91 wrote:
Mind blown, probe. Still looks like a ninja or wizard to me.

I thought he actually said himself that it was a ninja :o

Very interesting blog, SirJolt. Your blogs are always just fun and interesting to read no matter the subject material. And wow, didn't know capoeira could actually build muscle that quickly. Hm. Good read as always, cool how it was concise yet still very nice.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 21 2012 15:48 GMT
#6
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

I don't see it at all o.O

Someone draw me a picture?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 21 2012 15:50 GMT
#7
On July 22 2012 00:15 ohsea.toc wrote:
How nice. My only "knowledge" of capoeira prior to reading this came from Tekken. I little appreciated the grace involved. There's a capoeira club down the road from me here; might just take a look next time I pass by.

You absolutely should give it a try. In some ways it's very much like every other martial art. However the subtle form and refinement from other martial arts isn't as immediately appreciable as capoeira. It is "mobilis in mobili". The agility met with control in capoeira is, as written above, best described as grace.

It's both very serious and very fun. It's fantastic exercise and immediately gratifying. I grew up close to a naturalized Brazilian and with him he brought his mothers awesome recipes and his homeland-cultivated love for capoeira. It was one of the coolest parts of growing up to see and play war dances. So that's a resounding Yes! Give it a shot, you may love it.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
July 21 2012 20:50 GMT
#8
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
July 21 2012 21:18 GMT
#9
Would someone here mind explaining to me the point of capoeira? I know it's a great work out and an awesome martial art, so I'm not bashing it. Rather, what is the goal of a game of capoeira?
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
iseefor
Profile Joined September 2010
United States162 Posts
July 21 2012 21:26 GMT
#10
i spent along time taking kenpo classes and this is what we did to warm up, capoeira is what really keep me going everyday.

its just so much fun
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iseefor
Profile Joined September 2010
United States162 Posts
July 21 2012 21:31 GMT
#11
On July 22 2012 06:18 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Would someone here mind explaining to me the point of capoeira? I know it's a great work out and an awesome martial art, so I'm not bashing it. Rather, what is the goal of a game of capoeira?


think of it as more of a dance then two people fighting. when ever i played it was just go till someone falls or messes up but its not like the other guy is trying to make this happen, we just had a lot of people waiting there turn.

at least that's how i learned.
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FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 22:37:01
July 21 2012 22:36 GMT
#12
I never got into playing but I have a few friends who to this day still practice and or teach Capoeira I love the song/music/dance/ aspect of it....

Only the Strong !!! Came out while I was in High School

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107750/

thanks SirJolt!!
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FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 23:11:13
July 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#13
On July 22 2012 06:18 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Would someone here mind explaining to me the point of capoeira? I know it's a great work out and an awesome martial art, so I'm not bashing it. Rather, what is the goal of a game of capoeira?



http://www.capoeira.htmlplanet.com/capoeira_hist.htm/

Edit:

I think nowadays the point is to be fit, have fun, and build and grow a like minded community. As in all things we gravitate to things we enjoy and enjoying them with others makes it even more fun. IMO Lazer tag owns thanks NPH and my daughter<3
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
July 21 2012 22:48 GMT
#14
Just don't get too injured that you can't keep casting, K?
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Dr. Steve Brule
Profile Joined January 2012
Wales152 Posts
July 21 2012 23:11 GMT
#15



The only thing i though of through out this blog.
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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4014 Posts
July 22 2012 01:18 GMT
#16
On July 22 2012 06:18 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Would someone here mind explaining to me the point of capoeira? I know it's a great work out and an awesome martial art, so I'm not bashing it. Rather, what is the goal of a game of capoeira?


For me it's the same as the goal of having a conversation with some friends or dancing with someone; you have a vocabulary of different movements that you know and enjoy, as well as challenging yourself to learn new movements. You and the other player are in a conversation, they kick, you dodge (esquiva). The aim isn't to win or to lose, but it is often to outthink the other person by understanding the way they're moving and putting them into tricky positions. In more aggressive games, that can change, but the strategic element is what I enjoy the idea of.

I'm not sure if that helps at all, but I've added another video to the post at the top that shows a few games that are a little faster
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 23 2012 00:36 GMT
#17
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

[image loading]
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 01:22:31
July 23 2012 01:21 GMT
#18
On July 23 2012 09:36 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

[image loading]

I see it!

I have been trying to figure it out for the longest time and now that you guys pointed it out, it makes a lot of sense.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
VenomBRA
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
July 23 2012 13:50 GMT
#19
Nice writeup! As a Brazilian, I approve of this
"We got a lot of nothing to say"
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
July 23 2012 15:47 GMT
#20
On July 23 2012 10:21 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 09:36 ComaDose wrote:
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

[image loading]

I see it!

I have been trying to figure it out for the longest time and now that you guys pointed it out, it makes a lot of sense.



[image loading]

Moderator<:3-/-<
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
July 23 2012 16:13 GMT
#21
On July 24 2012 00:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 10:21 Dubzex wrote:
On July 23 2012 09:36 ComaDose wrote:
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

[image loading]

I see it!

I have been trying to figure it out for the longest time and now that you guys pointed it out, it makes a lot of sense.



[image loading]



WHAT NOWAY OMGGG

The secret has been revealed!!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#22
ITT is the greatest
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
July 24 2012 01:50 GMT
#23
On July 22 2012 10:18 SirJolt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:18 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Would someone here mind explaining to me the point of capoeira? I know it's a great work out and an awesome martial art, so I'm not bashing it. Rather, what is the goal of a game of capoeira?


For me it's the same as the goal of having a conversation with some friends or dancing with someone; you have a vocabulary of different movements that you know and enjoy, as well as challenging yourself to learn new movements. You and the other player are in a conversation, they kick, you dodge (esquiva). The aim isn't to win or to lose, but it is often to outthink the other person by understanding the way they're moving and putting them into tricky positions. In more aggressive games, that can change, but the strategic element is what I enjoy the idea of.

I'm not sure if that helps at all, but I've added another video to the post at the top that shows a few games that are a little faster


Haha i'd probably go insane doing this. I'd be constantly trying to win without trying to win T_T
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 24 2012 02:24 GMT
#24
On July 24 2012 00:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 10:21 Dubzex wrote:
On July 23 2012 09:36 ComaDose wrote:
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

[image loading]

I see it!

I have been trying to figure it out for the longest time and now that you guys pointed it out, it makes a lot of sense.



[image loading]



But of course
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Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
July 24 2012 02:37 GMT
#25
^Wow, that can't be unseen.
really?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 24 2012 03:22 GMT
#26
+ Show Spoiler +
Jul 23 16:15:37 <JangbiProbe> your opinions are all WRONG
Jul 23 16:15:49 <SirJolt> Wow
Jul 23 16:16:00 <SirJolt> This is why Probe1 is revered
Jul 23 16:16:03 <SirJolt> master of his art
Jul 23 16:16:08 <SirJolt> GM Shitposter :D

Forgive me for this M. I liked your blog but I think I tainted the responses.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 01:20:35
July 25 2012 01:20 GMT
#27
On July 23 2012 10:21 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 09:36 ComaDose wrote:
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

[image loading]

I see it!

I have been trying to figure it out for the longest time and now that you guys pointed it out, it makes a lot of sense.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33091

Scrubs.



I've always wanted to try capoeira, but there's never a school/gym/dojo in my area
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Galfi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil56 Posts
July 25 2012 17:17 GMT
#28
love this post

i used to do capoeira when i was little, enjoyed every moment of it, it's like you said, a conversation, you dont need to talk, you just express yourself throught the movements you know, and it's a very special feeling when all of your friends are singing in a circle around you watching you game, you just feel like home, that's your family right there.

for those who ask, capoeira was created by the slaves in Brasil around 1600 a.c. so they could defend themselvs against the "capatazes" (i dont know how u call it english, but they were the ones hired by the land lords to watch the slaves work and if any didnt work, they woud beat and whip them to bleed), but, as the landlords couldn't know that they developed this fighting technique to fight against their employees (otherwise they would get punished/killed) they disguised it as a dance

it's still a very efficient fighting technique and can be used to hurt a lot (like this cute example here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQGxr7UokF0), but it is obviously wayyyy more a beautifull way to exercise and express yourself than a meaning to hurt others

i do like capoeira, dunno why i don't get back to it, maybe will

thx for the post probe

"I'm not young enough to know everything"
Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
July 25 2012 17:28 GMT
#29
You're awesome Jolt, I love you.
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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4014 Posts
July 25 2012 22:02 GMT
#30
On July 26 2012 02:17 Galfi wrote:
love this post


So glad to hear it; there's always a sense of background discomfort when I'm writing about a culture so far from my own
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VenomBRA
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
July 26 2012 09:15 GMT
#31
On July 26 2012 07:02 SirJolt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 02:17 Galfi wrote:
love this post


So glad to hear it; there's always a sense of background discomfort when I'm writing about a culture so far from my own


It's really nice to read it from a foreigner's point of view. I've always found it strange how some people were so fascinated about capoeira and the culture around it when I had just moved to the Netherlands. I had heard it was somewhat popular in some other countries than Brazil, but didn't really get how the groups abroad worked.

I had a Dutch colleague who was very experienced in it. Even though he had not practiced it already for a couple of years, he could still do some of the most complicated moves in a way that seemed so easy. He even brought his berimbau to the office one day. And he played it much better than I ever did. And he had the funniest capoeira apelido (nickname) ever: Fala Fina (something like high-pitched voice).
"We got a lot of nothing to say"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 26 2012 18:49 GMT
#32
On July 24 2012 11:24 Jragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 00:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
On July 23 2012 10:21 Dubzex wrote:
On July 23 2012 09:36 ComaDose wrote:
On July 21 2012 23:45 Probe1 wrote:
In all seriousness, it really is a goat smoking a pipe wearing a wizard hat.

[image loading]

I see it!

I have been trying to figure it out for the longest time and now that you guys pointed it out, it makes a lot of sense.



[image loading]



But of course


Perfection. I'll never see it any other way ever again.
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