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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On June 19 2012 13:31 askTeivospy wrote: hi she has a bf O_O, you've known her for 2 weeks you're a scumbag if you go after her, she's a scumbag if she accepts imo i have nothing more to add. this whole go for it winning stuff is only relevant if she's available. you're a douche if you try to fuck that up. especially when she's only going to be there for a teeny while. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On June 19 2012 14:58 Angel_ wrote: i have nothing more to add. this whole go for it winning stuff is only relevant if she's available. you're a douche if you try to fuck that up. especially when she's only going to be there for a teeny while. When they have sex, she's available. When they don't, she isn't. Being all high and mighty isn't always the way to go. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
Let her know you like her, then it's up to her to make a move. You're a douche if you can't respect that she's in a relationship. | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
But to answer your question. Just do it, don't worry too much. Consequences are never nearly as bad as people like to think. You'll most likely still get along well, even if she rejects you. But at least you can stop getting your hopes up afterwards :D | ||
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Azera
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
There's no point blaming or condemning anyone there, that's just how evolution works. =P | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
On June 19 2012 21:03 r.Evo wrote: If she decides to have sex with the OP instead of being "faithful" (stupid word) to her bf, then apparently her relationship didn't matter all that much to her and apparently she was more attracted to the OP than to her bf. There's no point blaming or condemning anyone there, that's just how evolution works. =P I can see you have read into some pick up theory stuff. And while you are right, it does lead situations which all 3 parties may end up being hurt. Just stick to girls who are available. There's more than enough of them. Don't try to justify your actions when you know it's only going to lead to drama one way or another. | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
 Moral standards, including Monogamy, aren't an invention of the curch, but a product of evolution. Couples who took care and protected each other and their offspring had better chances of survival than those who abandoned each other :D | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On June 19 2012 21:27 lefix wrote: I can see you have read into some pick up theory stuff. And while you are right, it does lead situations which all 3 parties may end up being hurt. Just stick to girls who are available. There's more than enough of them. Don't try to justify your actions when you know it's only going to lead to drama one way or another. In case you didn't notice I recommended for him not to go for it based on how he comes off in his decisionmaking. However, "lol ur a dick if you go for someone elses girl!!!11" just isn't appropriate. If you're more attractive in every way than her "boyfriend" (hell, we don't even know what that is exactly that she has with him) then getting together is completely fine. Edit: Also, your evolution reasoning is wrong Moral standards, including Monogamy, aren't an invention of the curch, but a product of evolution. Couples who took care and protected each other and their offspring had better chances of survival than those who abandoned each other :D Please cite sources on that. The entire issue is highly debatable and you can turn it pretty much any way you want, I'm just choosing the point of view which actually makes sense in your daily life. e.g. in your case where a couple cares and protects each other, you know who has the best chance of survival? The guy who impregnates the woman in said couple without her "husband" noticing. | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On June 19 2012 22:04 Arcanefrost wrote: Well, you simply are a dick if you go for someone else's girl. And a massive one. If I start hanging out with a friend of yours and that friend decides I'm cooler than you and stops hanging out with you so that he can hang out more with me... am I a dick, too? | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
On June 19 2012 22:07 r.Evo wrote: If I start hanging out with a friend of yours and that friend decides I'm cooler than you and stops hanging out with you so that he can hang out more with me... am I a dick, too? No, you're not because she's just a friend. If I would start hanging out with your girlfriend, have sex with her and then proceed to never talk to her again, would you consider me a dick? | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On June 19 2012 22:51 Arcanefrost wrote: No, you're not because she's just a friend. If I would start hanging out with your girlfriend, have sex with her and then proceed to never talk to her again, would you consider me a dick? No. In that spot I would have fucked up and you just ceased your chance. How can I blame her when I'm less attractive than some other dude? Edit: Also how can I blame you in that situation and be mad? I'd do the same. The real question is: Why would my gf want to sex with some other random guy when she's happy with me? | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:36 lefix wrote: Because usually, when your girlfriend fucks your friend, you get hurt. And your friend and girlfriend, who know this, do it anyway, which makes it wrong. Satisfied, attracted girlfriends who are happy in their relationship rarely fuck random other guys. >_> | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
but she may as well return home eventually and end up getting married and having children with that guy, if you don't fuck it up. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 20 2012 00:04 lefix wrote: relationships have their ups and downs, there are times when a girl maybe be emotionally vulnerable, for example when she has been in a fight with her bf, or an ocean between them. but she may as well return home eventually and end up getting married and having children with that guy, if you don't fuck it up. Only if the world doesn't end in a fiery apocalypse of biblical proportions first. The reality is, if she's open to screwing around while she's gone, it's first come first served. And if the relationship is that fragile, what are the odds he's not cheating too? | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
On June 19 2012 23:07 r.Evo wrote: No. In that spot I would have fucked up and you just ceased your chance. How can I blame her when I'm less attractive than some other dude? Edit: Also how can I blame you in that situation and be mad? I'd do the same. The real question is: Why would my gf want to sex with some other random guy when she's happy with me? Are you in a relationship? All relationships have ups and downs, how can you just be ok with some guy stealing her during a down/ vulnerable moment/... I just don't get it. If you you love the girl you should want to murder that guy, not go all "Hey, nice job taking my gf dude. I'm totally fine because you're so attractive." I really do not get this. | ||
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