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T.O.P.
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The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.
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Yeah I'm not sure if we can chalk this up to homophobia being the true issue. Yeah it's silly to be homophobic, but there is something a little more wrong with the guy than his fear of gays.
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On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.
You know TL has a habit of first replies either being really stupid, or exactly what needs to be said.
This has nothing to do with homophobia
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On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.
I tried to give this an upvote, then I realized I'm not on reddit. What has happened to me?
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On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.
Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.
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Is there some sort of article, is this new news, why is the first I'm hearing of this, I would think media would be all over this...
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On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people. Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.
It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things.
Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa
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On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people. Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa. It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things. Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa
So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.
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On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people. Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa. It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things. Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.
Exactly my point. We are in this era where liberalism is taking over the world by a storm, and it's really not as black and white as you think. It's wrong for a person to kill homosexuals because they are homophobes, just as it is wrong for a person to kill homophobe because they are homosexuals. Treating people differently based on who they are happens all the fucking time, from things like physical appearance, race, personality, gender, etc. This is no different.
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On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people. Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa. It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things. Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.
Your choice of basketball team is not the same as someone's sexuality.
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If homophobia didn't exist he would have killed the boy because he thought he was possessed by demons. Homophobia didn't "lead" to anything, craziness did.
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On June 13 2012 16:07 EienShinwa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people. Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa. It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things. Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable. Exactly my point. We are in this era where liberalism is taking over the world by a storm, and it's really not as black and white as you think. It's wrong for a person to kill homosexuals because they are homophobes, just as it is wrong for a person to kill homophobe because they are homosexuals. Treating people differently based on who they are happens all the fucking time, from things like physical appearance, race, personality, gender, etc. This is no different.
I repeat illegal =/= wrong or visa versa.
I disagree that in a modern society we should accept people being treated based on their gender, race or sexual preference. These things are predominantly biologically driven and so the individual has limited choice in changing them. Just because people treat them differently doesn't mean we should be indifferent about it.
Since when has apathy become the new black?
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Well shit. I'm pretty sure you can't even tell a person's sexuality for sure when they're four.
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What the fuck this happened in Durham? Shit that's close. Used to live there too.
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On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people. Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa. It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things. Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.
It's unfair how I can freely say I hate Celtics fans but can't freely say I hate black people because it's not politically acceptable. Damn being politically acceptable is unreasonable.
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Yea, I'm gonna call bullshit on some of these analogies people in here are throwing around. Homophobia and NBA teams? Come on now.
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On June 13 2012 16:48 TOloseGT wrote:
Yea, I'm gonna call bullshit on some of these analogies people in here are throwing around. Homophobia and NBA teams? Come on now.
You're probably just ignorant to the fact that sports team affiliation is biologically predetermed. 
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On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
Crazy people kill people.
Well said. Couldn't agree more.
It looks like an attempt to get an insanity plea to me.
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This guy sounds like he is insane to be honest and he just wanted an excuse to kill someone.
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