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Homophobia leads to a four year old's death

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Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
June 13 2012 05:29 GMT
#1
In short a crazed homophobic nut killed a four year old because he thought the child was gay. He then proceeded to kill a woman who was a potential witness.



"Peter Lucas Moses, the leader of a Durham, N.C. polygamist group, has admitted to killing his ex-girlfriend and a 4-year-old boy...According to WRAL news, prosecutors say Moses shot the boy because he thought he was gay and then killed McKoy because he feared she would tell police. Their bodies were buried in plastic bags behind a Durham house."


This is crazy!

How much longer can we in America tolerate people espousing homophobic beliefs? Maybe we wouldn't have been able to save this child in case but maybe others can be rescued. As someone who self identifies as a cynical depressing bastard with a bleak outlook on life the amount of hatred towards gays in my homeland still manages to shock me every now and then.

Things like this remind me that every chance we get we need to be taking action for equality and defending the marginalized.

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[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 13 2012 05:34 GMT
#2
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
imjorman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States580 Posts
June 13 2012 05:37 GMT
#3
Yeah I'm not sure if we can chalk this up to homophobia being the true issue. Yeah it's silly to be homophobic, but there is something a little more wrong with the guy than his fear of gays.
People who want power shouldn't have it.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 13 2012 05:39 GMT
#4
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.


You know TL has a habit of first replies either being really stupid, or exactly what needs to be said.

This has nothing to do with homophobia
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
June 13 2012 06:03 GMT
#5
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.


I tried to give this an upvote, then I realized I'm not on reddit. What has happened to me?
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
June 13 2012 06:21 GMT
#6
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.

Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
June 13 2012 06:22 GMT
#7
Is there some sort of article, is this new news, why is the first I'm hearing of this, I would think media would be all over this...
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 13 2012 06:34 GMT
#8
On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.

Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.


It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things.

Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
June 13 2012 06:58 GMT
#9
On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.

Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.


It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things.

Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa


So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.
EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 07:07:24
June 13 2012 07:07 GMT
#10
On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:
On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.

Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.


It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things.

Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa


So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.

Exactly my point. We are in this era where liberalism is taking over the world by a storm, and it's really not as black and white as you think. It's wrong for a person to kill homosexuals because they are homophobes, just as it is wrong for a person to kill homophobe because they are homosexuals. Treating people differently based on who they are happens all the fucking time, from things like physical appearance, race, personality, gender, etc. This is no different.
I have a simple philosophy: Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches. Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 13 2012 07:07 GMT
#11
On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:
On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.

Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.


It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things.

Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa


So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.


Your choice of basketball team is not the same as someone's sexuality.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
June 13 2012 07:08 GMT
#12
If homophobia didn't exist he would have killed the boy because he thought he was possessed by demons. Homophobia didn't "lead" to anything, craziness did.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 13 2012 07:12 GMT
#13
On June 13 2012 16:07 EienShinwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:
On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:
On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.

Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.


It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things.

Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa


So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.

Exactly my point. We are in this era where liberalism is taking over the world by a storm, and it's really not as black and white as you think. It's wrong for a person to kill homosexuals because they are homophobes, just as it is wrong for a person to kill homophobe because they are homosexuals. Treating people differently based on who they are happens all the fucking time, from things like physical appearance, race, personality, gender, etc. This is no different.


I repeat illegal =/= wrong or visa versa.

I disagree that in a modern society we should accept people being treated based on their gender, race or sexual preference. These things are predominantly biologically driven and so the individual has limited choice in changing them. Just because people treat them differently doesn't mean we should be indifferent about it.

Since when has apathy become the new black?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
June 13 2012 07:17 GMT
#14
Well shit. I'm pretty sure you can't even tell a person's sexuality for sure when they're four.
Logic is Overrated
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 13 2012 07:26 GMT
#15
What the fuck this happened in Durham? Shit that's close. Used to live there too.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
June 13 2012 07:27 GMT
#16
On June 13 2012 15:58 AngryFarmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 15:34 Probulous wrote:
On June 13 2012 15:21 EienShinwa wrote:
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
The problem is not that he is homophobic, the problem is that he killed 2 people. Crazy people kill people.

Being homophobic isn't a crime or something that is wrong, just like how being homosexual isn't a crime. It's exactly as T.O.P. said it, the problem is he killed two people. People who denounce homophobes are on the same level as them and vice versa.


It depends on what society considers reasonable. I would suggest that treating people differently based on who they are attracted to is discriminatory and reasonable to denounce. For example we denounce hate speech even though those that spout it claim they are just voicing their views. Sometimes there is a right and wrong way to approach things.

Also wrong =/= illegal or visa versa


So if i'm a Laker's fan it's not okay to discriminate you or denounce you if you're a Celtics fan? I feel like humans are just overly sensitive when it comes to "controversial" topic. It's unfair how I can freely say I hate the Celtics but can't freely say I hate gays because it's not politically acceptable.


It's unfair how I can freely say I hate Celtics fans but can't freely say I hate black people because it's not politically acceptable. Damn being politically acceptable is unreasonable.

-_-...
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
June 13 2012 07:48 GMT
#17
Yea, I'm gonna call bullshit on some of these analogies people in here are throwing around. Homophobia and NBA teams? Come on now.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
June 13 2012 08:04 GMT
#18
On June 13 2012 16:48 TOloseGT wrote:
Yea, I'm gonna call bullshit on some of these analogies people in here are throwing around. Homophobia and NBA teams? Come on now.


You're probably just ignorant to the fact that sports team affiliation is biologically predetermed.
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
June 13 2012 08:07 GMT
#19
On June 13 2012 14:34 T.O.P. wrote:
Crazy people kill people.

Well said. Couldn't agree more.

It looks like an attempt to get an insanity plea to me.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 13 2012 08:13 GMT
#20
This guy sounds like he is insane to be honest and he just wanted an excuse to kill someone.
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