• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:18
CEST 15:18
KST 22:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists3[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail0MaNa leaves Team Liquid18$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy5GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (Mar 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow BW General Discussion ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group B [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2091 users

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy (ADOVG) - Page 2

Blogs > DRTnOOber
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
June 13 2012 09:22 GMT
#21
On June 13 2012 17:10 Sauwelios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 08:07 DRTnOOber wrote:
@Sauwelios wow! That's amazing, I had no idea there was a competitive multiplayer community around this game! I admit that a friend and I did play quite a few 1v1 battles but one of us worked out that if you jumped backwards casting drain and force lightning alternately, you just couldn't be beaten. Well, we couldn't work out a way anyway, so we stopped playing. Thanks for your awesome reply though! The battles on those videos look intense!

Yeah the competitive scene used to be quite vibrant, mostly centered around the ESL, but it also had a very vibrant American branch with the BWN league (not sure if that one exists anymore though, been a while). The thing is that all competitive play, with minor exceptions, was done without force settings and with only the saber enabled. The reason for this can be easily inferred from your own observations: Force is a terribly imbalanced, unrefined and quite frankly boring aspect of the game. So yeah, except for the rare full-force fun tournament on the ESL, it was quite a no-go - which is great, if you ask me, because sabering is fantastic.

Would this mean that force jump was disabled as well? Since afaik a certain level of jump was necessary for certain moves.
What a player
GERMasta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany212 Posts
June 13 2012 09:39 GMT
#22
Jump, attack and defense were kept maxed out at all times. I'm not even sure if you can disable them via the ingame menu - you can probably disable force jump somehow via the console, but if you set your server settings to 'disable force powers' via the menu, it will automatically disable everything except for jump, attack and defense.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
June 13 2012 11:00 GMT
#23
Oh my seeing how you guys say force was all screwed up in JK3 brings tears to my eyes bcos in JK2 force brought SO MUCH depth to the game and skill. Force was 70% skill, saber 20%, and 10% being fast around the map and using it stategically. Ill post a video later when im home so you guys can see what it is all about.
sorry for dem one liners
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
June 13 2012 11:16 GMT
#24
I used to play Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast online until everybody started wallhacking/aimhacking. Was fun for the 8~ years it lasted! Never enjoyed Academy like Outcast tho, but the Single Player was cool!
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
June 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#25
Wallhack is part of the game Everyone has it, cant play without it. I know it sounds stupid but wallhack also brought a lot of depth and skill to the game. Its like force seeing only it doesnt require you to push a button every now and then.

Aimbots on the other hand are anoying but dont help that much to a player using them; if you are better then him, you are still going to win vs him evey time.
sorry for dem one liners
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
June 13 2012 12:13 GMT
#26
On June 13 2012 11:11 blade55555 wrote:
I wish they would make a new one. I can only imagine how much fun a jedi knight game would be with today's graphics lol.

Hmm. The same?
En Taro Violet
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 14:04:12
June 13 2012 14:01 GMT
#27
On June 13 2012 20:24 NukeD wrote:
Wallhack is part of the game Everyone has it, cant play without it. I know it sounds stupid but wallhack also brought a lot of depth and skill to the game. Its like force seeing only it doesnt require you to push a button every now and then.

Aimbots on the other hand are anoying but dont help that much to a player using them; if you are better then him, you are still going to win vs him evey time.


I played patch 1.4 JK2 with Force on, meaning that with aimbot, every saber throw hit... Couldn't block it since it hit a blind spot every time. Not so fun imo

And wallhack was very abusive for those who tried to play legit, didn't add any depth and skill to the "scene" I was playing in It actually took away alot of skill and depth cuz you couldnt trick your opponent with a roll around the corner and quick blue saber style duck attack, or simply try to run away by juking and tricking your opponent. Like force push away fake high jump to mid jump rolling away etc. You get the point
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 17:32:45
June 13 2012 14:43 GMT
#28
Both released patches ruined the game drastically and people playing on those versions play no force all the time cos force is unplayable. Noone who plays te game 2+ years even plays those versions, I dont even know why you would put your self through that torture. If you downloaded the game now you would see that all servers run the vannila MP version ( btw its tricky too find that version if you want to download it, but its avalable for sure).

Saber throw is used to finish people off because its a useless power in any other scenario, put 3 points in saber defense and it deflects the saber automatically. Other than that you can kinda use it when fighting an absorb abusing light side user, put then you use it with forcepull which in turn gives him more force so its not a very smart strategy, but if you are good in push/pull fights you can pull it off most of the time. But there are more popular and smarter strategies against "absorb whores", as we like to call them, like just trying to kick or backstab them until their force runs out when you continue to use drain force power so you drain their force and prevent them from putting their absorb shield up again ( spamming drain in such fashion is called "drain whoring").

On the wallhack thing; I can see your concern but trust me it really adds in to the game. The problem you describe as it takes away the option to just run behind a corner is in my opinion a very good thing and the game would be unplayable without it. Problem is that it is indeed incredibly easy to just hide from your opponent by turning a few corners, and because running around the map escaping your opponent is a huge part of the game, people have gotten incredible at doing it and it would make killing your opponent nearly impossible. Now if you have wallhack you can see where your opponent is running but he can still outrun you and escape and thus reset the battle. Thats why i say this cat and mouse mechanic is a huge part of the game and is a skill on its own. If you want id love to get in more details how and why this dynamic exists, and what important role force powers drain ( if two dark side users are fighting) and absorb ( wgether its 2 light users, or light vs dark user) have in it. No wallhack would straight up kill this amazing part of the game.

I will post a few videos later, hoping you will understand and appreciate what people in the video are actually doing ( because its very hard to do so if you dont play the game) and how amazing some of the players are ( I will post it tonight).

Also, I would love to play with you if you have the will to do so and I would train you if you'd like. Just to avoid confusion; this post is regarding JK2 and not JK3 Jedi Academy which the OP talks about.

EDIT: Videos.







Basically all 3 videos show off ADBS skills ( with the last one showing how its done). ADBS= Air double backstab. Its very hard to do, you need to have lighning fast fingers, and its also hard to hit. There isnt much videos unfortunatelly showing other skills like push/pull, grip tricks, lame or any of the other stuff unfortunatelly.
sorry for dem one liners
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
June 13 2012 16:29 GMT
#29
On June 13 2012 21:13 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 11:11 blade55555 wrote:
I wish they would make a new one. I can only imagine how much fun a jedi knight game would be with today's graphics lol.

Hmm. The same?

JKA uses the same game engine as Quake 3 did. It's an old engine that, despite how much many improvements have been made to it, has a lot of limitations compared to today's engines.

Graphics aside, imagine how cool a star wars game could be if it had "realistic" physics? It would be awesome if everything in the game world reacted realistically to lightsaber cuts, force blasts etc.
What a player
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
June 13 2012 18:30 GMT
#30
That would probably make for a pretty shitty "cool" game.
En Taro Violet
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
June 14 2012 09:29 GMT
#31
there's a mod as well for those interested, it at least increased the longevity of the game for me and my friend
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 14 2012 10:49 GMT
#32
Woa cant believe it came out 2003, feels like yesterday that i played it.
We used to play it on our small private lans duking it out in FFA lightsabre fights, it was really awesomel.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
June 14 2012 13:43 GMT
#33
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2012 23:43 NukeD wrote:
Both released patches ruined the game drastically and people playing on those versions play no force all the time cos force is unplayable. Noone who plays te game 2+ years even plays those versions, I dont even know why you would put your self through that torture. If you downloaded the game now you would see that all servers run the vannila MP version ( btw its tricky too find that version if you want to download it, but its avalable for sure).

Saber throw is used to finish people off because its a useless power in any other scenario, put 3 points in saber defense and it deflects the saber automatically. Other than that you can kinda use it when fighting an absorb abusing light side user, put then you use it with forcepull which in turn gives him more force so its not a very smart strategy, but if you are good in push/pull fights you can pull it off most of the time. But there are more popular and smarter strategies against "absorb whores", as we like to call them, like just trying to kick or backstab them until their force runs out when you continue to use drain force power so you drain their force and prevent them from putting their absorb shield up again ( spamming drain in such fashion is called "drain whoring").

On the wallhack thing; I can see your concern but trust me it really adds in to the game. The problem you describe as it takes away the option to just run behind a corner is in my opinion a very good thing and the game would be unplayable without it. Problem is that it is indeed incredibly easy to just hide from your opponent by turning a few corners, and because running around the map escaping your opponent is a huge part of the game, people have gotten incredible at doing it and it would make killing your opponent nearly impossible. Now if you have wallhack you can see where your opponent is running but he can still outrun you and escape and thus reset the battle. Thats why i say this cat and mouse mechanic is a huge part of the game and is a skill on its own. If you want id love to get in more details how and why this dynamic exists, and what important role force powers drain ( if two dark side users are fighting) and absorb ( wgether its 2 light users, or light vs dark user) have in it. No wallhack would straight up kill this amazing part of the game.

I will post a few videos later, hoping you will understand and appreciate what people in the video are actually doing ( because its very hard to do so if you dont play the game) and how amazing some of the players are ( I will post it tonight).

Also, I would love to play with you if you have the will to do so and I would train you if you'd like. Just to avoid confusion; this post is regarding JK2 and not JK3 Jedi Academy which the OP talks about.

EDIT: Videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j5mKraBTqg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxJaSKDj8CU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zo6-SEY9Io&feature=related

Basically all 3 videos show off ADBS skills ( with the last one showing how its done). ADBS= Air double backstab. Its very hard to do, you need to have lighning fast fingers, and its also hard to hit. There isnt much videos unfortunatelly showing other skills like push/pull, grip tricks, lame or any of the other stuff unfortunatelly.


I guess we played in entirely different scenes then. You could say I was a "casual". Didn't enjoy that miedium saber style double back slash gameplay so I stuck with what I enjoyed, 1.4 force play.
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
12:00
GSL CK #3: Rogue vs SHIN
CranKy Ducklings SOOP67
herO (Afreeca)39
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group B
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
Afreeca ASL 16781
StarCastTV_EN441
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 189
herO (Afreeca) 39
Codebar 34
Rex 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 52413
Calm 12407
Bisu 7431
Jaedong 2984
Horang2 2022
BeSt 1479
Mini 807
EffOrt 770
Hyuk 480
Pusan 412
[ Show more ]
Stork 399
actioN 346
ZerO 268
Light 254
firebathero 221
Leta 154
Larva 132
Hyun 115
Soma 96
ToSsGirL 62
Killer 61
Rush 56
Sharp 55
Aegong 46
Free 35
[sc1f]eonzerg 33
Sacsri 30
Backho 29
Hm[arnc] 26
soO 21
Shinee 19
Nal_rA 18
HiyA 16
Terrorterran 15
IntoTheRainbow 13
Movie 10
GoRush 8
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5581
qojqva1316
Counter-Strike
olofmeister3500
fl0m1230
zeus530
x6flipin297
byalli268
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King119
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1168
B2W.Neo912
hiko508
Mlord309
XaKoH 281
Lowko254
DeMusliM136
QueenE98
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 339
Other Games
BasetradeTV329
Counter-Strike
PGL205
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 73
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota233
League of Legends
• Nemesis1747
• TFBlade1647
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
10h 43m
CranKy Ducklings
19h 43m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 43m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
The PondCast
1d 20h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
IPSL
4 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
5 days
IPSL
5 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.