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nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 16:26:42
May 28 2012 16:25 GMT
#1
while praccing macro in custom games vs no opponent i noticed that unlike a completed creep tumor, a building creep tumor blocks unit movement.

+ Show Spoiler [zerglings running over completed tumor] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [zerglings blocked by building tumor] +
[image loading]


upon doing further research i found that it also blocks mineral walking workers and burrowed moving units. in regards to unit movement the building creep tumor acts like a building.

+ Show Spoiler [burrowed infestor blocked by building…] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [mineral walking workers blocked by bui…] +
[image loading]


besides strategically placing tumor batteries to set up instant walls to restrict movement and neutralizing high priority targets in the heat of battle, this property of the building creep tumor doesn't seem to have much use in competetive games.

+ Show Spoiler [strategically placed tumor battery] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [fully deployed tumor wall] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [neutralized high priority target] +
[image loading]


maybe in combination with sim city and a pair of fancy pants it could be used to block a zergling or hellion runby.

***
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
May 28 2012 16:32 GMT
#2
I don't understand how putting any effort into this would do you any good considering it's only a very slight delay for any oncoming attack. And if anything, concentrating on actually spreading creep will help you out more than saving a grid of them in your base for this use.
topschutter
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands93 Posts
May 28 2012 16:42 GMT
#3
Maybe someone in bronze would be thorwn off his game so much that he leaves. Other than that I totally agree with jacosajh!
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 16:49:49
May 28 2012 16:49 GMT
#4
It'd probably only turn out to be useful for zergling runbys in very small chokes since everything else would straight-up kill the building tumors too quickly. In that case, one has to wonder why you'd leave a hole in the first place that you couldn't defend normally.

Though surrounding the baneling is pretty hilarious.

EDIT: Still, nice find, if only for personal amusement.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 16:53:52
May 28 2012 16:53 GMT
#5
ok guys, but when the metagame shifts, and all your hellions and lings are being stopped by the tumor walls, and all your ghosts and hts are being neutralized by the tumor prisons, don't come crying to me unless you want an "i told you so" to the face.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
May 28 2012 17:01 GMT
#6
On May 29 2012 01:53 nunez wrote:
ok guys, but when the metagame shifts, and all your hellions and lings are being stopped by the tumor walls, and all your ghosts and hts are being neutralized by the tumor prisons, don't come crying to me unless you want an "i told you so" to the face.

Nobody really has the APM to do this stuff, don't act like you just discovered some gamechanging thing. That said it's a nice find that might come in handy some day.
chaosfreak11
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore367 Posts
May 28 2012 17:16 GMT
#7
Unfortunately, they die instantly
DawN883
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden558 Posts
May 28 2012 17:22 GMT
#8
Haha Really nice find! :D
If the dead are not raised, Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
May 28 2012 17:59 GMT
#9
On May 29 2012 02:01 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 01:53 nunez wrote:
ok guys, but when the metagame shifts, and all your hellions and lings are being stopped by the tumor walls, and all your ghosts and hts are being neutralized by the tumor prisons, don't come crying to me unless you want an "i told you so" to the face.

Nobody really has the APM to do this stuff, don't act like you just discovered some gamechanging thing. That said it's a nice find that might come in handy some day.


Hahahahahaha! I thought the comment was great nunez. And coke's sarcasm fail only makes it better. Neat find.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
May 28 2012 18:32 GMT
#10
On May 29 2012 01:53 nunez wrote:
ok guys, but when the metagame shifts, and all your hellions and lings are being stopped by the tumor walls, and all your ghosts and hts are being neutralized by the tumor prisons, don't come crying to me unless you want an "i told you so" to the face.

lol, that's the spirit.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 28 2012 18:52 GMT
#11
LOL those are some very cute pictures/captions
Interesting find, perhaps one day someone MIGHT use it much like larva blocking chokes was used in BW
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2634 Posts
May 29 2012 01:20 GMT
#12
I would say, just stick with changelings and infested Terran eggs.
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Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
May 29 2012 01:45 GMT
#13
Very interesting to know, but for the most part utterly useless, don't try and work this into your game play what so ever, but still an interesting find.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
May 29 2012 02:04 GMT
#14
On May 29 2012 01:53 nunez wrote:
ok guys, but when the metagame shifts, and all your hellions and lings are being stopped by the tumor walls, and all your ghosts and hts are being neutralized by the tumor prisons, don't come crying to me unless you want an "i told you so" to the face.


ahahaha when I mess around in team games we actually do this inside the other peoples base if we can. it's fantastic ^^
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Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
May 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#15
This is pretty cool to know, thanks.
Lousy!
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada73 Posts
May 29 2012 06:52 GMT
#16
The problem with trying to stop runbys with this is if they were a-moving, then your creep tumours could die pretty quickly.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 07:07:03
May 29 2012 07:04 GMT
#17
On May 29 2012 02:16 chaosfreak11 wrote:
Unfortunately, they die instantly


hts, infestors, banes all cannot break out without using energy and/or damaging themselves. In addition if you are quick enough you can cancel them just prior to completion and rewall immediately to effectively trap a ht/infestor/bane all game.

I take my hat of in honor of the OP. This is a discovery about as significant as the idea of a macro hatch, or maynarding workers. It should be spotlighted in the strategy section.

EDIT: BTW is it possible to wall-in hellions and cancel the tumors before the hellion fire animation, and then rewall them again? Sort of like with warp prism-immortal or medivac-tank micro vs slow shooting units like stalkers. If so that would be awesome.
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