• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:37
CEST 19:37
KST 02:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon8[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues23LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris76
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away [G] How to watch Korean progamer Streams.
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ alas... i aint gon' lie to u bruh... BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro16 Group A [ASL20] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread The PlayStation 5 General RTS Discussion Thread Iron Harvest: 1920+ Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Laptop on Rent in Delhi – Smart Choice for Student
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1449 users

Hand Problems

Blogs > LaM
Post a Reply
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
May 10 2012 21:32 GMT
#1
Hi. I have always had hand/wrist pain while playing SC2. Every couple months I will come back to it but within a week or two I have to go on another extended break. I started playing again about a week ago after not playing for ~2 months. I have been wearing wrist braces at night, have elevated my chair, and stretch my hands 3 times throughout the day. It just doesn't seem to work.

The symptoms vary and can be in either hand:

-Pain in my fingers usually happens in both hands, but on the pinky side and sporadically.

-My wrists also frequently have pain/numbness, but like with my fingers, it comes and goes. Numbness occasionally goes down my whole arm to my elbows from my wrists.

-However, the most consistent problem is numbness/weakness in my right (mouse) palm. My index and thumb finger seem to be the center of the condition, there is some muscle/tendon/? that runs from my index finger into my palm that seems swollen and I can feel numbness running down the back of my arm from my thumb/index finger on my right hand.

It is extremely frustrating and every time I begin playing seriously and try to get into Top 8 Masters I get rebuffed by the pain/numbness. I know the usual suggestion is to go the doctor, but I am in my senior year of high school and my parents don't have the greatest health insurance. We could go if I needed to for something, but if I am having hand problems from a videogame the solution is 100% to stop playing the game in their mind. I have brought it up before :D

I know you guys aren't doctors, but if anybody has had something similar and worked it out I would love to hear. Don't know where to go for advice. Thank you.

*
Anything is Possible
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 21:41:00
May 10 2012 21:38 GMT
#2
Don't know where to go for advice


A doctor. People can tell you some anecdotal stuff, but at best they're just going to reinforce what you already know; something is wrong.

Other than that take more breaks and possibly provide other information about your computer use habits. I, for example, switched my mousing hand from left to right while at work so my day is split between which hand is using the mouse (home is still right handed). I'm left handed/practically ambi-dexterous so it was easy, your milage may vary, but office work doesn't require gosu mouse skills. It helped to lessen the strain on me a bit, but I only had minor discomfort at worst.
Logo
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
May 10 2012 21:40 GMT
#3
On May 11 2012 06:32 LaM wrote: know the usual suggestion is to go the doctor, but I am in my senior year of high school and my parents don't have the greatest health insurance. We could go if I needed to for something, but if I am having hand problems from a videogame the solution is 100% to stop playing the game in their mind. I have brought it up before :D


On May 11 2012 06:38 Logo wrote:
A doctor. People can tell you some anecdotal stuff, but at best they're just going to reinforce what you already know; something is wrong.
Anything is Possible
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 10 2012 21:47 GMT
#4
How do you hold your mouse?
Hello
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 10 2012 21:47 GMT
#5
Doesn't really change the situation at all though. If you can't go to a doctor and figure out what's wrong then doing anything that might ruin your wrist is a terrible idea. At the very least you probably want to limit yourself to a very moderate amount of playing.
Logo
rogzardo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
610 Posts
May 10 2012 21:49 GMT
#6
Hate to say it, but usually the only way to avoid pain like this is to stop doing whatever causes it ----> playing sc2. You can stretch, have good posture, do yoga, get acupuncture, see a doctor, get physical therapy.... but it won't really do shit.

Speaking as someone who deals with this and works with many others who deal with it. Computers + hands = ow.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 21:53:53
May 10 2012 21:51 GMT
#7
On May 11 2012 06:47 PH wrote:
How do you hold your mouse?


Thumb on the left, index on mb1, middle finger on mb2, two other fingers on the right side with the pinky on the desk. My hand is angled upwards with the fleshy part at the bottom of my hand on the edge of the desk. My arm is still below the desk angled up even with the higher chair. I grip the mouse pretty far back (aka, grip it closer to me than I do towards the screen), my hand isn't really on top of the mouse as it is angled off it/curved on the back of the mouse.
Anything is Possible
SpeCtor
Profile Joined August 2010
233 Posts
May 10 2012 21:54 GMT
#8
On May 11 2012 06:51 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 06:47 PH wrote:
How do you hold your mouse?


Thumb on the left, index on mb1, middle finger on mb2, two other fingers on the right side with the pinky on the desk. My hand is angled upwards with the fleshy part at the bottom of my hand on the edge of the desk. My arm is still below the desk angled up even with the higher chair. I grip the mouse pretty far back (aka, grip it closer to me than I do towards the screen), my hand isn't really on top of the mouse as it is angled off it/curved on the back of the mouse.


doesn't sound very comfortable >.<
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
May 10 2012 22:08 GMT
#9
On May 11 2012 06:49 rogzardo wrote:
Hate to say it, but usually the only way to avoid pain like this is to stop doing whatever causes it ----> playing sc2. You can stretch, have good posture, do yoga, get acupuncture, see a doctor, get physical therapy.... but it won't really do shit.

This is not true at all. Depending on what you have and what stage the condition is in, you can improve it by taking care of it (which of course should be based on the problems source)

However, only a doctor can tell for sure what it is. So the best advice to give over the internet is to watch your posture very carefully, try to keep both wrists straight, and reduce other activities on the pc (only play sc2 when using the pc)

Mabye this video can help as well: link
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 10 2012 22:10 GMT
#10
On May 11 2012 06:51 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 06:47 PH wrote:
How do you hold your mouse?


Thumb on the left, index on mb1, middle finger on mb2, two other fingers on the right side with the pinky on the desk. My hand is angled upwards with the fleshy part at the bottom of my hand on the edge of the desk. My arm is still below the desk angled up even with the higher chair. I grip the mouse pretty far back (aka, grip it closer to me than I do towards the screen), my hand isn't really on top of the mouse as it is angled off it/curved on the back of the mouse.

I would hiiiighly recommend figuring something out so your arm isn't angled up to reach your mouse.

Also, I'm not entirely sure from your description, but does the back of your hand contact your mouse? Or is it just your fingers? How do your fingers click the mouse buttons? Do you press down with the tips of your fingers like you would a piano?

The claw grip (largely fingers only touching the mouse) will work wonders for you, I think, if you're not using it already. Hitting the buttons with the tips of your fingers will also improve your discomfort by quite a bit.

Also, in general, try to make a conscious effort not to tense up your arm and hand too much while playing. Try to very easily click the buttons, and don't grip the mouse too hard. That should help at least a little bit. It's tough to do while playing games, but yeah.

If you need more than this rudimentary advice, then you really should go to a doctor. :x

Hope this helps.
Hello
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
May 10 2012 22:16 GMT
#11
You have 2 options, go to the doctors or stop playing sc2, preferably both until your hands get better.
Your right hand problems sound sort of like carpal tunnel, i have it right now in my left hand from too much typing, and the main problem is in my index finger and thumb, although my whole hand is slightly numb.

I looked at some stuff about carpal tunnel online, and i did the stretches the internet told me to for a few days. When i was done with my appointment, i was given a set of completely different stretches that I know work, so depending on what stretches you do, you can either help or hurt your hands.

tl;dr
Go to a doctor, TL is no substitute.
In Mushi we trust
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
May 10 2012 22:22 GMT
#12
Sounds like a problem that I had, best thing to do is to go and see your doctor who will tell you the best way to sort it out ^.^
For the moment though just stop playing SC2 or don't play for as long
Some times you just gotta wish...
KSKaleido
Profile Joined December 2011
United States16 Posts
May 10 2012 22:33 GMT
#13
This is the exact same problem I have. Carpal tunnel is a bitch...

Something I found helps a LOT is getting better peripherals.. I got a 4000DPI laser mouse and a mechanical keyboard, and that took away a lot of the strain compared to when I used to 'wrestle' with an optical mouse and a mushy membrane keyboard.. Obviously, this only helps, and will not heal anything. I still get pain if I play more than 2 hours, but it's more of a numb pain in my extremities, not the sharp wrist pain I used to have.

I also wrap my wrists with cloth (I spent over $300 on the peripherals I was talking about, but I'm too cheap to buy wrist guards... my priorities are fucked... ) whenever my wrists -really- start to hurt, to prevent lateral movement and aggravating it...

Make sure, when you're playing, your hands are as parallel to your forearm as possible. You don't want your wrists to be at any kind of angle, sitting too high or too low will dramatically aggravate this problem. Play with your wrist braces on, if possible. This may force you to rethink and remap some hotkeys for comfort, but once you remap those and find a basic way to play without moving your wrists laterally too much, you'll be able to play without wrist guards again and it should be al ot better...

Obviously all this advice is sidelined by the fact that you should ABSOLUTELY see a doctor as well...
VATO_Gandair
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States232 Posts
May 10 2012 23:21 GMT
#14
Get evaluated by a doctor. I have problems with my cubital tunnel and caught it early. With stretches, breaks, and better arm/hand/wrist posture I can play pretty much like I used to. However if I had waited longer it would have gotten much worse and I'd not be able to perform like I can now.

Earlier is better, talk to a doctor(s).
I like the purple bags of skittles.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 11 2012 04:40 GMT
#15
if you are not going to goto a doctor, i suggest you stop playing and start performing stretches and stengthening exercises. the numbness is a bad sign related to carpal tunnel. I deal with it every day because i was too stupid to listen to what my body was telling me. Shitty part is i cannot make a decent living without using a computer...
dude bro.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 497
BRAT_OK 87
UpATreeSC 85
Codebar 42
MindelVK 31
JuggernautJason17
ProTech12
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4721
Rain 1595
Bisu 1231
Shuttle 1140
Mini 864
EffOrt 478
Stork 451
BeSt 253
sSak 220
firebathero 202
[ Show more ]
hero 148
Soulkey 139
Dewaltoss 135
ggaemo 131
Mong 91
Sharp 77
TY 55
Mind 45
Rush 43
Aegong 21
Terrorterran 17
soO 16
Dota 2
The International98381
Gorgc9493
PGG 35
League of Legends
Reynor58
Counter-Strike
fl0m616
flusha12
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 65
Other Games
Grubby2070
Mlord538
Beastyqt445
B2W.Neo346
Lowko273
KnowMe212
RotterdaM189
Hui .181
ArmadaUGS143
C9.Mang085
ToD61
QueenE60
SortOf40
Chillindude39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1307
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 2
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1425
• Ler73
League of Legends
• TFBlade734
Other Games
• imaqtpie354
• Shiphtur338
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
16h 23m
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
18h 23m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 23m
BSL Team Wars
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
Maestros of the Game
1d 20h
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
1d 22h
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Wardi Open
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
LiuLi Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.