• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:32
CET 05:32
KST 13:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea Soulkey's decision to leave C9
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Darkest Dungeon Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2598 users

Step 1 of a Long Road: Bronze to Silver

Blogs > Schaudenfraud
Post a Reply
Schaudenfraud
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 10:31:19
April 26 2012 10:29 GMT
#1
So I've read the "suggested strategy threads" thread to get my zerg fix. I asked simple questions in the "ask a simple question" thread. I must say that teamliquid and the starcraft community is one of the best communities out there period. Day 9's videos have been helping me tremendously. BTW I love Day 9's banter, that guy is just one of the funniest people ever. Period.

Now it's time to hit the battlefield. What I wanted to do was test my macro in a real life situation against people. The first time was pretty tough. I lost all 5 of my placement matches and was sent straight to bronze. I was recommended by many on the interwebs to work on that macro. I went from 15 APM and a bunch of accidental clicks while trying to memorize my hotkeys to around 50-60 APM and I now have a much smoother macro experience. I have hit a wall though at top bronze though. What do I have to do next?

What I did was open up a spreadsheet with the following columns: Win, Loss, Vs Race, Map, and Notes. I did what I felt for me was a large sample of games. My initial goal was to get around 10 games but I went for 15. I recommend this for anyone trying to get good at any game. What I noticed was that I was totally missing evolution chambers with my tier 1 buildings. I was missing upgrades. There was no timing. Even though I'm building a lot more stuff than my opponent, I'm not finishing anyone off.

A common bronze player symptom is bad turtling. I am getting beat by bad turtling. Why do I feel that it's "bad?" It's bad because a lot of these players aren't even going for expansions and I'm effectively blocking them off. I initially planned to starve my opponents. So I have the "big picture" down, but why aren't I winning even if they are starved??

Here are some reasons: I'm not scouting correctly. I've lost twice because I didn't scout for a command center in the far corners of the map. I should suicide scout with my overlord inside at 7:00ish just to see what they're up to. Even though I was busy killing my opponent's expo, I didn't scout a second or third time at their base when I very easily could since I'm twice as fast as my opponents in APM and probably macro (I have more food and supply then them but I STILL lose).The next reason is lack of game knowledge and execution. I generally do not make many banelings but I will start doing it. I should also Hotkey my zlings and banes (DO NOT FORGET BLING SPEED!) to separate hotkeys because my banes are sometimes at a choke and my zlings aren't polite enough to move aside. Lastly, I need to work on my timing. It's time to watch pros use the builds I'm using and I should take note of what they do. I'm very sloppy after /40ish supply.

Anyways, that's my post for this week. Every Thursday, I'll try to post on my progress. Hopefully you enjoyed this little blog post. I'm going to make my adjustments and i'll let you all know what's up.

aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
April 26 2012 10:39 GMT
#2
On April 26 2012 19:29 Schaudenfraud wrote:
I went from 15 APM and a bunch of accidental clicks while trying to memorize my hotkeys to around 50-60 APM and I now have a much smoother macro experience. I have hit a wall though at top bronze though. What do I have to do next?

Post a replay of you getting into the midgame in all matchups, regardless of whether or not you lose, and ask for macro advice to continue doing exactly what you are trying for, except 10 times better.
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
April 26 2012 11:19 GMT
#3
What I did was open up a spreadsheet with the following columns: Win, Loss, Vs Race, Map, and Notes. I did what I felt for me was a large sample of games. My initial goal was to get around 10 games but I went for 15. I recommend this for anyone trying to get good at any game. What I noticed was that I was totally missing evolution chambers with my tier 1 buildings. I was missing upgrades. There was no timing. Even though I'm building a lot more stuff than my opponent, I'm not finishing anyone off.


You should add a column for drone count. If you are Zerg and focusing on macro it is essential to know how well you are doing with droning.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
April 26 2012 12:35 GMT
#4
Get in the habit of sending an overlord to every expansion location on the map, and then stay 1 base ahead of P and T. Maintain control of watch towers (easy if they are turtling).
No logo (logo)
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
April 26 2012 13:44 GMT
#5
Park a zergling behind the minerals of the natural. Easiest way to see if the opponent is turtling. If he expands, park one at the third. Beyond the 8 minute mark, leave lings patrolling around the outer expansions for ninja expos. Bronze players LOVE to do this. Stay on 1, maybe 2 bases ahead of him. If you expand too greedily, you will have zero army when he moves out, and promptly get roflstomped.

Most importantly, DON'T try to bust a turtle. Running into sieged tanks is the quickest way to lose an army. Camp an army outside his choke, pre-spread to kill him when he comes. If he keeps on turtling, stay at ~180 supply, tech to broodlords and siege his position. You might need to convert a few drones to spines or throw away some units to do this.
=Þ
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Korean StarCraft League #87
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
18:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #18
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 124
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 5791
GuemChi 5550
yabsab 19
Noble 17
ZergMaN 10
Icarus 8
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 655
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv3486
Stewie2K662
Other Games
summit1g8319
WinterStarcraft401
C9.Mang0305
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV118
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 71
• practicex 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra599
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
7h 28m
Big Brain Bouts
12h 28m
Fjant vs SortOf
YoungYakov vs Krystianer
Reynor vs HeRoMaRinE
RSL Revival
1d 5h
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
1d 7h
Platinum Heroes Events
1d 10h
BSL
1d 15h
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
2 days
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.