EPTWhy I think Im smart - Page 3
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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adwodon
United Kingdom592 Posts
On April 17 2012 19:08 Boblion wrote: Saying that "people" in general are smart enough to determine who deseverve to be called smart is very unsmart lol. To be smart means that you are able to dominate other people and to impose your ideas, opinions and will. That's the problem with most people, when they call someone smart it means "i like you" or "i acknowlege my own inferiority". However if they have ressentiment they will always try to deny it and instead they will try to despict the person as evil. Ultimately only dominant people can give a decent insight about who is really smart. My grand mother always thought i was clever as a children but when i started to challenge her religious beliefs i became "weird" because i had "dangerous ideas" haha. What?! Is this what people really think? Being intelligent does not make you oppressive, you concluded otherwise because of your experience with your grandma? I think the problem facing a lot of you is you simply have little experience with any sort of community which generally attracts those of 'intelligent' dispositions. You might be slightly above average intelligence, or not, but you sit there amongst people who aren't generally involved in intellectual discussion and you somehow conclude from that, that you are intelligent, that you are better than them. Nonsense. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
To be smart means that you are able to dominate other people and to impose your ideas, opinions and will. Actually, being smart is "Having or showing a quick-witted intelligence." Plenty of religious people fit that definition. I daresay there are a number of people watching Fox News who also fit that definition. EDIT Adwodon, I agree entirely. I used to think I was a clever chap until I joined a community online where nearly everyone participating in the Serious Discussion forum was more logical, more intelligent, and much better at debate than me. The ability to defeat thirteen year olds in debates at school and online does not make you smart, nor does defeating those who are not trained to think logically. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On April 17 2012 19:52 adwodon wrote: What?! Is this what people really think? Being intelligent does not make you oppressive, you concluded otherwise because of your experience with your grandma? You can be dominant without being perceived as oppressive... Having higher status doesn't mean that you have to behave like a slavedriver lol. | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
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arfyron
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
On April 17 2012 19:11 .Sic. wrote: thirdly, people will be more intelligent if they don't try to express all of their thoughts yes, very valid point here. Ive always seen ignorance as bliss. But then again, ignorance is not bliss if you already know about it and are then trying to ignore it, then it is anything but bliss! | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
Op is a clever, clever kid. Boblion : your definition of "being smart" does not fare well with situations where it is smart to be submissive, and seems way too close to the definition of "strenght". | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Oh and it is only smart to be submissive when you are trying to hide your real intentions lol. | ||
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deathly rat
United Kingdom911 Posts
On April 17 2012 21:57 Boblion wrote: Fck man didn't know that entrepreneurs and politicians are weightlifters. Oh and it is only smart to be submissive when you are trying to hide your real intentions lol. or you know, if you like that sort of thing | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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adwodon
United Kingdom592 Posts
On April 17 2012 20:09 Boblion wrote: You can be dominant without being perceived as oppressive... Having higher status doesn't mean that you have to behave like a slavedriver lol. Oh that's what you meant, then why did you say this? To be smart means that you are able to dominate other people and to impose your ideas, opinions and will. Unless you think that imposing your will on someone couldn't possibly be a form of oppression. I still don't understand what that has to do with intelligence, plenty of ignorant fools are 'dominant' personalities, and plenty of extremely smart people are introverts, they are not intertwined, a smart person doesn't necessarily want to control the people around him. A smart sociopath would, but its not the smart part of that which gives him those desires, it may well facilitate it, or it might not, he could be terrible with people, sometimes smart people have problems with social interaction too. What does status have to do with intelligence? Are physicists powerful people? A guy like David Beckham certainly has a lot of status, but he hardly seems bright. It seems like you've taken a very narrow, situational view of one application of intelligence, and decided that's the truest definition. Feel free to go around in circles though. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On April 17 2012 22:05 Boblion wrote: Yea, "i like to be submissive because i like it" seems like a good way of life to me lol. It's a choice of life, many people choose to be submissive because it fits them well. A good salary, little ethical concerns and a loving boss are enough for many people. Wether it's smart or not is debatable, because it can arguably be very good for them. Politicians are also a bad example, because their ability to get to the top doesn't rely on their intelligence only. Else Attali isn't as smart as Sarkozy because Sarkozy is the president, which is, again, debatable. It would also imply that Mitterand was smarter then Chirac when he was president, but became dumber when Chirac came to power, it makes no sense. The power of a politician does not come from his intelligence, but from his character, his collaborators and his tools. Wether you were born as a friend of the Rotschild family or climbed the social ladder isn't up to you, and it plays a large role in terms of power. | ||
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PetitCrabe
Canada410 Posts
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On April 17 2012 16:48 CecilSunkure wrote: There* I also think this is a good idea. i don't think your getting it | ||
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adwodon
United Kingdom592 Posts
On April 17 2012 22:28 PetitCrabe wrote: Woah I'm not sure if OP is trolling or not. In any case, this is a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Don't ever say you are smart, because you are never smart enough. Do what you have to do, and let the others judge whether you are smart or not. One of my favourite effects. You're* How do you know were not the ones who don't get it? | ||
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Nallen
United Kingdom134 Posts
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Zorkmid
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