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Knap4life
Slovenia333 Posts
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
IMO, it's really hard to judge how smart or dumb people are. I guess if someone consistently comes up with great ideas or finds solutions to problems you thought about and couldn't solve then they are probably smart. But just because they believe some dumb stuff doesn't mean they're dumb. | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On April 17 2012 22:47 adwodon wrote: One of my favourite effects. You're* How do you know were not the ones who don't get it? your just going to have to trust me that you're understanding of the situation at hand is not wear it needs to be | ||
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PenguinWithNuke
250 Posts
BTW OP, your sentences are really awkward. A great writer you are... | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On April 17 2012 22:22 adwodon wrote: Oh that's what you meant, then why did you say this? Unless you think that imposing your will on someone couldn't possibly be a form of oppression. Dude YOU are the one narrowing my views. I don't know why you are still thinking that imposing your will, ideas, opinions equate physical domination and oppression. For example Politicians nowadays usually don't force people to agree with them (otherwise they would be dictators boo hoo) so they are using other means, they are seducing people with clever rhetoric and by manipulating their feelings. Being dominant is not about fitting the "alpha male stereotype" lol. Women can be dominant too... On April 17 2012 22:22 adwodon wrote: ... Feel free to go around in circles though. You are the one babbling because you were offended when i said that being called smart by dumb people doesn't mean shit. In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed is king. But if you are called smart by someone who is winning at life then you should take it as compliment. On April 17 2012 22:24 Kukaracha wrote: It's a choice of life, many people choose to be submissive because it fits them well. A good salary, little ethical concerns and a loving boss are enough for many people. Wether it's smart or not is debatable, because it can arguably be very good for them. Politicians are also a bad example, because their ability to get to the top doesn't rely on their intelligence only. Else Attali isn't as smart as Sarkozy because Sarkozy is the president, which is, again, debatable. It would also imply that Mitterand was smarter then Chirac when he was president, but became dumber when Chirac came to power, it makes no sense. LOL i'm always amazed by your posts. All i'm saying is that you will find smarter people among politicians than idk... among garbage men ? No offense to garbage men, i still like them. Boo hoo i'm so politically incorrect. Also you have no idea about what being submissive means. Having a good job, being well paid and having little ethical concerns is actually closer of the opposite lol. I will take an obvious example. When a woman get beat by her husband and she doesn't try to call the cops and to divorce she is being submissive. You understand ? Being submissive is bad. On April 17 2012 22:24 Kukaracha wrote: The power of a politician does not come from his intelligence, but from his character, his collaborators and his tools. Wether you were born as a friend of the Rotschild family or climbed the social ladder isn't up to you, and it plays a large role in terms of power. Good to see that you are finally admitting that we are not born equals. Now you will maybe admit that we don't get the same education ? Dude i'm using the same concepts than your favourite leftist pseudothinkers, we are discussing Bourdieu material for fuck sake, why are you even trying to argue. Being intelligent doesn't mean shit if you are still a bum. You have to achieve things ( social position, inventions, whatever ). You are not born smart, you just have a potential. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
This hypothetical man obeys to two persons for evey decision in his life, and yet he can be happy. You can arguably say that he's smart to chose what's best for him. Let's get things straight, because you seem to use a very peculiar definition of "smart". smart (smärt) adj. smart·er, smart·est 1. a. Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright. See Synonyms at intelligent. b. Amusingly clever; witty: a smart quip; a lively, smart conversation. c. Impertinent; insolent: That's enough of your smart talk. 2. Energetic or quick in movement: a smart pace. 3. Canny and shrewd in dealings with others: a smart negotiator. 4. Fashionable; elegant: a smart suit; a smart restaurant; the smart set. See Synonyms at fashionable. 5. a. Capable of making adjustments that resemble human decisions, especially in response to changing circumstances: smart missiles. b. Manufactured to regulate the amount of light transmitted in response to varying light conditions or to an electronic sensor or control unit: smart windows. 6. New England & Southern U.S. Accomplished; talented: He's a right smart ball player. And no Bourdieu is not my god, don't get so mad! I simply follow his Distinction as it's a very interesting analysis of the artistic phenomenon, but that's about it. Of course, I agree that our education differs in many points and that we are not all born equals, although nurture is what composes the biggest part of our being. And yes, my posts are amazing, because I'm an amazing person. | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
Them being stupid != You being smart. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
Wow. Fucking grats. If smart was level 80 you just thought about buying the game. Don't talk about how easy the last boss is just yet. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On April 18 2012 02:10 Kukaracha wrote: No, that woman is being submissive to her husband. There is no "absolute" submission, you always submit to somebody or something. You're submissive in comparison to someone else's attitude. You can have a good job, have a nice salary and still be your boss' bitch. You're thus submissive to your boss, and everyone above him. You could also be submissive to your wife, simply because you feel it makes your life easier. Hierarchy doesn't go up like a ladder, it's more complex than that when you leave the small context of a certain well-defined group. This hypothetical man obeys to two persons for evey decision in his life, and yet he can be happy. You can arguably say that he's smart to chose what's best for him. Lol i just used it as an obvious example. I have never talked about an "absolute" wtf. It is so annoying to discuss with you. You are always trying to put words in my mouth. Also let's be clear once for all. If you have a "good job" with a "nice salary" it means that you are enjoying it and it is good for you which is completly different than taking a beating and suffering ! Now if your boss is a complete jerk it means that your job isn't "good" anymore and you should do something about it. If you stay and you become the bitch then yea you are submissive. It is a matter of CHOICES and of WILL. I can't believe you don't understand stuff like this. You are always trying to make things more complicated than they really are. On April 18 2012 02:10 Kukaracha wrote: Let's get things straight, because you seem to use a very peculiar definition of "smart". Words for words ! Smart is being clever ! Smart is being witty ! Smart is being bright ! But what is being clever ? What is being witty ? What is being bright ? On April 18 2012 02:10 Kukaracha wrote: And no Bourdieu is not my god, don't get so mad! I simply follow his Distinction as it's a very interesting analysis of the artistic phenomenon, but that's about it. Of course, I agree that our education differs in many points and that we are not all born equals, although nurture is what composes the biggest part of our being. And yes, my posts are amazing, because I'm an amazing person. I'm just laughing at your "arguments" sigh. All you have done is trying to derail the thread and putting words in my mouth. | ||
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
Smart is what smart is done !! | ||
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beachbeachy
United States509 Posts
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
Most of what we think of as "intelligence" is in fact just "education." edit: I would also encourage you to read the Bible and not dismiss it just because some people take it literally. It is a great work of literature (some parts are better than others, it's not really a coherent book. Even within books parts were composed across very long span of time.) | ||
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adwodon
United Kingdom592 Posts
On April 18 2012 01:17 Boblion wrote: Dude YOU are the one narrowing my views. I don't know why you are still thinking that imposing your will, ideas, opinions equate physical domination and oppression. For example Politicians nowadays usually don't force people to agree with them (otherwise they would be dictators boo hoo) so they are using other means, they are seducing people with clever rhetoric and by manipulating their feelings. Being dominant is not about fitting the "alpha male stereotype" lol. Women can be dominant too... Why does oppression have to be physical? Your choice of words is poor, if you mean influence, say influence, if you mean impose say impose, they have very different meanings and connotations that you don't seem to be understanding. A politician doesn't impose his will on people, he tries his best to influence them, or pander to them. Even within the world of politics itself, being so bold as to try and impose yourself on people will get you shut out of the game pretty fast. I think that's what you're trying to say, but you're using all the wrong words. English is a complicated language though, and maybe not your first so your meaning could be getting lost in translation. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
Even within the world of politics itself, being so bold as to try and impose yourself on people will get you shut out of the game pretty fast. Yes, so if you acted in this way, the will to power would not be fulfilled - you would not be able to dominate them. Domination here is context dependent. The tension between the will to power and oppression is of course troubling. I'm not a nietzsche scholar so I can't really comment on how to resolve this tension on his terms. (I'm not necessarily arguing this position just trying to clarify) | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On April 18 2012 02:10 Kukaracha wrote: And no Bourdieu is not my god, don't get so mad! I simply follow his Distinction as it's a very interesting analysis of the artistic phenomenon, but that's about it. Of course, I agree that our education differs in many points and that we are not all born equals, although nurture is what composes the biggest part of our being. And yes, my posts are amazing, because I'm an amazing person. <3 you kukaracha | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
Congratulations, you're an atheist liberal. Smarter'n everyone else 'round here... | ||
Chill
Calgary25977 Posts
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On April 18 2012 03:35 Chill wrote: If you're so smart why were you banned from the strategy forum? ololol lol btw op you know there are a shitton of accomplished scientists who are incredibly strong christians? I know of 4 incredibly accomplished men (one an award winning geneticist) from my church alone who are some of the strongest christians I know. so that kinda fucks up your first point and your second point is that fox news is sensationalist. news flash: you're not the only one aware most of us are aware of the things you mentioned, except one thing valued MORE than intelligence in this world is HUMILITY. so get over yourself. edit: oops got trolled, fuck it | ||
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BenBuford
Denmark307 Posts
To me, religion is the same as believing in santa claus or ghosts. I would wager, that believing in religious scriptures shows signs of inability to think things through. I would in the same arrogant view as OP find people believing in religion at least misguided if not directly less intelligent. There are of course great thinkers within the scholastic tradition as well, researching religion and believing in some deity. I wouldn't call these people stupid. They obviously have great analytic skills and vast mental ressources to dig into. But in general, I would say that religious people are less inclined to be intelligent. Same goes for FOX news viewers, which I believe has already been proven, if "level of education" among the viewer base can be considered a meaningful way of measuring. I don't think OP is as far off, as most readers here seem to think. | ||
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