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[Letting off Steam] I hate zerg

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dronefarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States260 Posts
April 10 2012 18:10 GMT
#1
ZvP more specifically. I try, and I try and I try, but you just have to go fucking broodlords. I hate broodlords. I play zerg because I want to make a ton of shit and drop and swarm in on people, but the protoss fucking makes 2 robos and you just can't do anything without broodlords. I try ultra/baneling, roaches, lings, everything, and I can't fucking do anything if the protoss knows how to macro. I play zerg, not terran, I shouldn't have to make a slow ass seige unit and crawl my ass across the map. FUCK. Give me a 1 supply unit please! I want to be able to do something with a unit that isn't boring and overpowered as shit.

Sad panda out

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If you can chill, chill
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 18:35:35
April 10 2012 18:30 GMT
#2
Isn't the new meta switching to infestor, ling, Ultras? Try that out.


You should be posting replys when you're complaing like this because: how are you marcoing, how are you scouting, how are you engaging the fights, are you just 1a2a3a and crying because everything dies, are you doing run bys when he leaves the base, try overlord bane drops on the mineral lines. Are you gold, diamond, plat, masters? Give some more information. TL is a place to discuss strategy and work on becoming a better player.

EDIT: Upon checking your history I see your posting replys and using the strategy form, I am sorry for bashing you there (if you took it that way). But please be more constructive in the blog section, there is a letting off steam thread if you just want to mindlessly rant there.
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
April 10 2012 18:43 GMT
#3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324733

I always recommend this thread for my Zerg friends that are having trouble ZvP. It's design is around a 12 minute max 200 supply so you'll definitely get that "swarming" feeling you want. If you practice builds like these over and over and over eventually you get so good at them that the match up becomes a lot easier and more enjoyable.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 10 2012 18:43 GMT
#4
On April 11 2012 03:30 Shelke14 wrote:
Isn't the new meta switching to infestor, ling, Ultras? Try that out.

In ZvP? No way. The gameplan prefered at the moment, at most levels, is 3 hatch -> maxed on roach -> ling/infestor/broodlord. This is because 3hatch roach is EXTREMELY strong vs FFE, but if the toss survives, they will get a deathball and broodlords are the only units which work against deathballs, which is why protoss are always going mothership/archon, it's the only composition which can fight ling/infestor/broodlord.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
April 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#5
On April 11 2012 03:43 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 03:30 Shelke14 wrote:
Isn't the new meta switching to infestor, ling, Ultras? Try that out.

In ZvP? No way. The gameplan prefered at the moment, at most levels, is 3 hatch -> maxed on roach -> ling/infestor/broodlord. This is because 3hatch roach is EXTREMELY strong vs FFE, but if the toss survives, they will get a deathball and broodlords are the only units which work against deathballs, which is why protoss are always going mothership/archon, it's the only composition which can fight ling/infestor/broodlord.


Ah ok, I haven't played in a while but watching IPL4 I thought some zergs were using teh Ultra,ling, infestor style.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
April 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#6
Maybe that was only verus terran though, fair enough.
dronefarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States260 Posts
April 10 2012 19:02 GMT
#7
On April 11 2012 03:30 Shelke14 wrote:
Isn't the new meta switching to infestor, ling, Ultras? Try that out.


You should be posting replys when you're complaing like this because: how are you marcoing, how are you scouting, how are you engaging the fights, are you just 1a2a3a and crying because everything dies, are you doing run bys when he leaves the base, try overlord bane drops on the mineral lines. Are you gold, diamond, plat, masters? Give some more information. TL is a place to discuss strategy and work on becoming a better player.

EDIT: Upon checking your history I see your posting replys and using the strategy form, I am sorry for bashing you there (if you took it that way). But please be more constructive in the blog section, there is a letting off steam thread if you just want to mindlessly rant there.


If I want to let off steam in a BLOG, then I will. I'm not claiming any imbalance, I'm frustrated and I wrote a personal entry expressing that, which is completely within my right. Please stop being a condescending little git in the blog section.
If you can chill, chill
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
April 10 2012 19:14 GMT
#8
On April 11 2012 03:10 dronefarm wrote:
ZvP more specifically. I try, and I try and I try, but you just have to go fucking broodlords. I hate broodlords. I play zerg because I want to make a ton of shit and drop and swarm in on people, but the protoss fucking makes 2 robos and you just can't do anything without broodlords. I try ultra/baneling, roaches, lings, everything, and I can't fucking do anything if the protoss knows how to macro. I play zerg, not terran, I shouldn't have to make a slow ass seige unit and crawl my ass across the map. FUCK. Give me a 1 supply unit please! I want to be able to do something with a unit that isn't boring and overpowered as shit.

Sad panda out


Play Terran. Low cost unit that you can swarm with = marine.

Try hard or don't try at all.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
April 10 2012 19:20 GMT
#9
I kind of agree with him.. high masters zerg..

Getting sick of having to go infestors brood to beat protoss..... makes every other unit useless, honestly..it seriously ruins the game.. theres only one end game comp you can go for that even touches protoss.. and god forbid they dont have some voids/storm/mothership...
from the days of: TheMarine [NC]...YellOw [H.O.T.]-Forever99 OgOgO [_MuMyung_] ChRh PlayGrrrr.... SlayerS_`BoxeR` [Oops]Reach [ReD]NaDa [DF]zergboy..!! Pusan[S.G] Nal_rA GARIMTO SSamJJang ChoJJa JinSu Silent_Control iloveoov H_PauL_WII JulyZerg [DaK]JoYo
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
April 10 2012 19:28 GMT
#10
Just an idea. If you make a few mutas then a lot of P will completely abandon robo in favour of blink stalkers or templar, which is easier to deal with if you're massing units on lair tech.
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Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 19:35:21
April 10 2012 19:33 GMT
#11
On April 11 2012 04:28 deathly rat wrote:
Just an idea. If you make a few mutas then a lot of P will completely abandon robo in favour of blink stalkers or templar, which is easier to deal with if you're massing units on lair tech.



But both of those units counter tier3 broods.. this isnt much of a tip.. considering you may or may not kill protoss off lair tech..
if you dont kill him you will eventually have to go to brood/infestors -.-

edit: you dont even need broods to purely kill robo tech.. its basically any protoss deathball
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
April 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#12
And this is why im excited for HOTS
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
April 10 2012 21:03 GMT
#13
On April 11 2012 04:33 Th1rdEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2012 04:28 deathly rat wrote:
Just an idea. If you make a few mutas then a lot of P will completely abandon robo in favour of blink stalkers or templar, which is easier to deal with if you're massing units on lair tech.



But both of those units counter tier3 broods.. this isnt much of a tip.. considering you may or may not kill protoss off lair tech..
if you dont kill him you will eventually have to go to brood/infestors -.-

edit: you dont even need broods to purely kill robo tech.. its basically any protoss deathball


I'm not about to theory craft with you if you're completely set in your belief that getting to broods is the only way to play. What I know is that if you just go purely roach/ling/hydra/infestor then every protoss with a brain with make immortals and colossi. If you make a spire, if you see them making robo tech you can make mutas, if you see them making gateway/twilight council units you can make roaches/lings. If they don't account for your mutas at all and keep making robo units you make 15 more and make their life a misery.

Pile on the pressure before they have a chance to get that mothership and believe me, you actually have a game worth playing. IDC if you believe me or not.

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UmiNotsuki
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States633 Posts
April 10 2012 21:11 GMT
#14
Wait, why not mutas? Mutas rape overcommited robo play because their only counter is gonna be stalkers, who aren't gonna be able to focus their attention on the mutas when you've got a zillion lings all over the place (as you should if you're going for a lot of mutas.)

Try it sometime, it's fun (Gotta roach switch or something else if they go HT/Archon through.)
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