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ohsea.toc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia344 Posts
March 18 2012 17:05 GMT
#41
I'm not sure that I'd describe Pynchon's Lot 49 as "fairly accessible". I'm reading it at the moment, and though it's fascinating, it can be difficult at times. Rushdie's style comes to mind, though Pynchon seems a little more modest. Actually, I couldn't really think of two more polar authorial "personas".

Clip, clop, Camelot.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 18 2012 17:11 GMT
#42
It's accessible for a pynchon novel. I loved it when I was in high school.
shikata ga nai
ohsea.toc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 17:19:22
March 18 2012 17:17 GMT
#43
Speaking of access, where's my damned GOM coupon yo? Ha, I kid.

This is my first time with Pynchon, so I can't speak to his other works. His blank verse (The Courier's Tragedy) is wonderfully worked.
Clip, clop, Camelot.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 23:39:04
March 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#44
I've been reading a bit more of Hemingway, and it seems to have gotten better. Will continue to read!
I still have problems with pages like
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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 00:07:47
March 19 2012 00:07 GMT
#45
Do you know what the army zona di guerra postcards are? If you think about the language of the passage in reference to those it's very interesting.

We like to think about the late modern period (late nineteenth and early twentieth century) in terms of the "fracturing" of the subject. What about the language of the passage seems fractured to you? How is this different than the way you might expect a narrative to be told? What might that difference tell you about the way that the speaker understands himself and his relationship to the world that might be different than ours or different from the way things were at an earlier point in history?
shikata ga nai
ohsea.toc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia344 Posts
March 19 2012 02:31 GMT
#46
"The Austrian army was created to give Napoleon victories; any Napoleon."

I remember laughing out loud at this when I first read it.
Clip, clop, Camelot.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 19 2012 04:04 GMT
#47
lol.

Azera: the secret to understanding that page is to understand that it's supposed to be funny.

That actually is a great passage. "Everybody said the French were through. Rinaldi said that the French had mutinied and troops marched on Paris. I asked him what happened and he said, 'Oh, they stopped them.'"

It helps if you think about what a shattering event WW1 was for Western civilization.
shikata ga nai
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
March 19 2012 05:28 GMT
#48
ahh hmm, a small contribution i can hopefully make is that i found science fiction short stories pretty awesome to read. like the ones that get the nebulla awards or something lol. they are pretty relevent to contemporary, pretty easy to understand, and are pretty fun and not too long ^.^
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 19 2012 06:12 GMT
#49
On March 19 2012 14:28 jodogohoo wrote:
ahh hmm, a small contribution i can hopefully make is that i found science fiction short stories pretty awesome to read. like the ones that get the nebulla awards or something lol. they are pretty relevent to contemporary, pretty easy to understand, and are pretty fun and not too long ^.^


Hugo, Nebula, and Philip K. Dick award can be a pretty good reading list. Sometimes of mixed merit post about 1985 or so... some good stuff but also some more... vulgar material .
shikata ga nai
Warble
Profile Joined May 2011
137 Posts
March 19 2012 07:38 GMT
#50
It's good to hear that you've found that you like Hemingway.

You're doing fine if that's the only passage you struggle with. Tip: use a pointer to track your eyes across the page. You'll find that the sentences are easy once and it's just the lack of paragraphs that makes it look hard.

Let me know if you ever get around to reading The Colour of Magic.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
March 19 2012 08:34 GMT
#51
Yeah I guess I didn't really get the humour. Never learnt about Napoleon before T.T

I feel that one thing I can't get used to is the massive wall of text without any punctuation.
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missefficiency
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 09:29:26
March 19 2012 09:25 GMT
#52
On March 17 2012 14:03 Azera wrote:
Recently, I have decided to pick up reading again. A friend (Yay!!!) and I ventured to the public library near to our school yesterday. He picked out 2 books for me,

-A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway
-The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke

I started to read 'A Farewell to Arms' first, but I found that it is rather hard to read. I'am just starting Chapter 3 and I just can not imagine the scene that he describes. I don't know if this is because of my lack of reading or my poor imagination, because all I see are just words. Also, Hemingway writes in a style (in this book I guess) that doesn't use much punctuation. I'm not used to this and it sort of breaks up the flow of my reading.

Any suggestions/advice?


It's Hemingway. I didn't like him either, his style was too much of tryhard naturalism for my taste, and I couldn't escape "The old man and the sea" since I had to read it in class and my teacher loved Hemingway as though he was her grandfather.

My advice is to go to a bookstore, explain to the bookseller what genre you like, let him give you about five books, sit down and read a chapter of each book. Then pick those you like. Same thing goes for library and librarians, they actually go crazy with happiness if you ask them for advice

Edit: Read the page you posted. I remember wanting to throw my copy of Hemingway against the wall *blushes* I guess
I just really don't like him.
Are you reading the book because it's a "classic" or because your friend picked it out for you?
“If you want to support others you have to stay upright yourself.” ― Peter Høeg
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
March 19 2012 10:37 GMT
#53
On March 19 2012 18:25 missefficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 14:03 Azera wrote:
Recently, I have decided to pick up reading again. A friend (Yay!!!) and I ventured to the public library near to our school yesterday. He picked out 2 books for me,

-A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway
-The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke

I started to read 'A Farewell to Arms' first, but I found that it is rather hard to read. I'am just starting Chapter 3 and I just can not imagine the scene that he describes. I don't know if this is because of my lack of reading or my poor imagination, because all I see are just words. Also, Hemingway writes in a style (in this book I guess) that doesn't use much punctuation. I'm not used to this and it sort of breaks up the flow of my reading.

Any suggestions/advice?


It's Hemingway. I didn't like him either, his style was too much of tryhard naturalism for my taste, and I couldn't escape "The old man and the sea" since I had to read it in class and my teacher loved Hemingway as though he was her grandfather.

My advice is to go to a bookstore, explain to the bookseller what genre you like, let him give you about five books, sit down and read a chapter of each book. Then pick those you like. Same thing goes for library and librarians, they actually go crazy with happiness if you ask them for advice

Edit: Read the page you posted. I remember wanting to throw my copy of Hemingway against the wall *blushes* I guess
I just really don't like him.
Are you reading the book because it's a "classic" or because your friend picked it out for you?


Reading it for pleasure and maybe to learn something about the human condition I guess
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 19 2012 15:14 GMT
#54
On March 19 2012 19:37 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:25 missefficiency wrote:
On March 17 2012 14:03 Azera wrote:
Recently, I have decided to pick up reading again. A friend (Yay!!!) and I ventured to the public library near to our school yesterday. He picked out 2 books for me,

-A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway
-The Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke

I started to read 'A Farewell to Arms' first, but I found that it is rather hard to read. I'am just starting Chapter 3 and I just can not imagine the scene that he describes. I don't know if this is because of my lack of reading or my poor imagination, because all I see are just words. Also, Hemingway writes in a style (in this book I guess) that doesn't use much punctuation. I'm not used to this and it sort of breaks up the flow of my reading.

Any suggestions/advice?


It's Hemingway. I didn't like him either, his style was too much of tryhard naturalism for my taste, and I couldn't escape "The old man and the sea" since I had to read it in class and my teacher loved Hemingway as though he was her grandfather.

My advice is to go to a bookstore, explain to the bookseller what genre you like, let him give you about five books, sit down and read a chapter of each book. Then pick those you like. Same thing goes for library and librarians, they actually go crazy with happiness if you ask them for advice

Edit: Read the page you posted. I remember wanting to throw my copy of Hemingway against the wall *blushes* I guess
I just really don't like him.
Are you reading the book because it's a "classic" or because your friend picked it out for you?


Reading it for pleasure and maybe to learn something about the human condition I guess


How cute! ^.^

you don't have to go looking for the human condition. It finds you on its own just fine.
shikata ga nai
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