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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 06:52:58
March 10 2012 06:52 GMT
#1
hey everyone

i am just venting my anger on being banned from chat channels. I think it is the worst thing in the world when you cant express yourself, or even defend yourself because you cant speak anymore

I remember the first time i was banned in a chat, and that was for saying JP was a bad caster (this was on SOTG obviously)

I really think people should be allowed to say things like this, as it is their own personal opinion and i did not use any offensive language, so i can see the reason

but just now i have been banned from the KT vs ACE match chat channel. And for what? This person said he felt bad for flash losing, and i kept on stating that 'its not a big drama' and things like 'why do you feel sorry for him? because he only has an 88% winrate?'

Flash is by far and away my favorite player from SC1 or 2 (he was in the power rank once...) and i was just trying to explain even though he has lost 2 matches in a row, he is still the best player in the league, and if he retired today he would still be remembered as one of the greats.

And then i get this #$%^&* response :

firehand101 was kicked from #nanashin by NaN[AceLine] [Hey man, don't bury the lead. How does it feel to support manslaughter and covering it up with moneys?]

WHAT THE %^&*

i have read this over and over and it doesnt even make sense! wtf does this have to do with manslaughter? and covering up with moneys? you dont add an s at the end of moneys wtf?!

I was so frustrated and wanted to just say "why did you ban me?" but i cant do it because i cant type anymore!

Basically, having freedom of speech taken away sucks, it is literally one of the worst feelings i have experienced, and in my case it sucks so hard that i was banned by a guy who cant even use correct english.



far out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,imma just watch the rest without the chat comments i guess..... love TvT's,

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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
March 10 2012 06:55 GMT
#2
You do not have freedom of speech on private chat channels. Those chat channels belong to whoever is in charge of them, and they have every right to ban you for acting in a way they don't like. Chatting and interacting is a privilege, not a right.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
March 10 2012 06:57 GMT
#3
On March 10 2012 15:55 dabom88 wrote:
You do not have freedom of speech on private chat channels. Those chat channels belong to whoever is in charge of them, and they have every right to ban you for acting in a way they don't like. Chatting and interacting is a privilege, not a right.

Basically this dude, you dont have the right to use a chat channel its a privilege.
Whatever happens, happens
Buckeye Bob
Profile Joined June 2009
United States86 Posts
March 10 2012 06:58 GMT
#4
Spoilers?
They call me Mr. 30 APM.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 10 2012 06:58 GMT
#5
dont be a dick; you wont be banned.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
March 10 2012 06:58 GMT
#6
Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything
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Epoch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 07:00:13
March 10 2012 06:59 GMT
#7
@daboom Yup, well said. Couldn't have said it better myself. No freedom of speech in private chat channels.

Sorry OP, maybe a reality check for you. You are being kind of absurd!

firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
March 10 2012 07:00 GMT
#8
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
March 10 2012 07:01 GMT
#9
For fucks sake man, who cares, nanashins channel sucks anyways.
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
March 10 2012 07:03 GMT
#10
On March 10 2012 15:58 firehand101 wrote:
Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything

On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something


Getting to defend yourself from a ban isn't a right either. Daphreak said, don't act like a dick, don't do anything that might be interpreted as being controversial or antagonistic, and you wont get banned.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 10 2012 07:09 GMT
#11
look on the bright side. you can ban all of us from your blogs. try it. its fun!
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 07:13:54
March 10 2012 07:11 GMT
#12
Are you really complaining about getting banned off of a stream chat channel?

On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something


Why? Because you'll feel bad?

It's their channel, they are the op. There is no overarching regulatory body governing how ops manage their bans. Real life and, by extension, the internet, often times doesn't revolve around your personal needs, wants, and values. If you don't like it, you can leave; or get yourself banned.
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
March 10 2012 07:13 GMT
#13
it's not a right. Take the consequences of your actions. If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all type of deal.
LiquidDota Staff
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
March 10 2012 07:17 GMT
#14
you know all you had to do was refresh the stream right aha
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
March 10 2012 07:20 GMT
#15
On March 10 2012 16:03 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 15:58 firehand101 wrote:
Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something


Getting to defend yourself from a ban isn't a right either. Daphreak said, don't act like a dick, don't do anything that might be interpreted as being controversial or antagonistic, and you wont get banned.

IE say nothing interesting and be boring
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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
March 10 2012 07:20 GMT
#16
On March 10 2012 16:17 Plutonik wrote:
you know all you had to do was refresh the stream right aha

lol
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fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 08:10:30
March 10 2012 08:08 GMT
#17
On the ban list now there's only 20 people and all 20 of them deserve it (people who just continue to spam hate messages about bw, streamer, other people). With that said, you're not even banned, just kicked. You're welcome to chat as long as you're not persistant in being a dick to others (I don't know if you were).
t.t
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
March 10 2012 08:16 GMT
#18
Uh, you didn't even get banned, you got kicked. You can just type "/j #nanashin" and rejoin the room at any time.

lol, you're literally getting worked up over nothing
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
March 10 2012 08:32 GMT
#19
On March 10 2012 17:08 fold wrote:
On the ban list now there's only 20 people and all 20 of them deserve it (people who just continue to spam hate messages about bw, streamer, other people). With that said, you're not even banned, just kicked. You're welcome to chat as long as you're not persistant in being a dick to others (I don't know if you were).

woop i never realised. I wasnt even being a dick! i was sticking up for my favourite player of all time!
But i will be more cautious in the future
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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
March 10 2012 08:37 GMT
#20
im not too sure... Telling JP is a bad caster in his OWN show. You'll get the same treatment in all streams, you just weren't being smart about where you were saying your things...
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 10 2012 09:12 GMT
#21
On March 10 2012 17:37 RogerX wrote:
im not too sure... Telling JP is a bad caster in his OWN show. You'll get the same treatment in all streams, you just weren't being smart about where you were saying your things...

Basically this.
There is a time and a place for almost everything. Criticizing the host of the chat channel you´re in while he is busy doing something(doing his show) is maybe not the wisest thing to do.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Alacast
Profile Joined December 2011
United States205 Posts
March 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#22
On March 10 2012 16:20 firehand101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 16:03 dabom88 wrote:
On March 10 2012 15:58 firehand101 wrote:
Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything

On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something


Getting to defend yourself from a ban isn't a right either. Daphreak said, don't act like a dick, don't do anything that might be interpreted as being controversial or antagonistic, and you wont get banned.

IE say nothing interesting and be boring


You don't have to say everything that comes into your head and those thoughts rolling around inside your head can still make you an interesting person.
Let us not rail about justice as long as we have arms and the freedom to use them. -Frank Herbert
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 11:54:09
March 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#23
oh by the way, we hate sones and NaN really really loves YG and all their groups.

Especially 2NE1
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
NietzscheanKant
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland92 Posts
March 10 2012 11:54 GMT
#24
On March 10 2012 15:52 firehand101 wrote:
firehand101 was kicked from #nanashin by NaN[AceLine] [Hey man, don't bury the lead. How does it feel to support manslaughter and covering it up with moneys?]

Dude... you got kicked, not banned.

Just re-join the channel (and as general advice, take heed of whatever was given as the reason of your kick).
"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." - Socrates
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
March 10 2012 12:03 GMT
#25
Your kick was a reference to one of Big Bang's member hitting a man with his car and having no repercussions.
BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
March 10 2012 12:33 GMT
#26
I'm totally with you on this one firehand101, I once got banned for typing something similar.
I never watched that stream again. Just ditch those guys. If they keep up those strict policies, they'll turn into something I/You do not wish to be a part of.
BenBuford on twitter.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
March 10 2012 12:43 GMT
#27
+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck you
for spoiling todays games.
Please try to be a bit considerate, god damnit now im more sad than anything. PUT IN SPOILER to avoid this happening to others!!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
March 10 2012 13:12 GMT
#28
On March 10 2012 15:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
dont be a dick; you wont be banned.


So simple, yet so hard to understand for many
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
March 10 2012 14:18 GMT
#29
Spoilers

Goddamnit
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 02:14:07
March 11 2012 02:13 GMT
#30
On March 10 2012 21:33 BenBuford wrote:
I'm totally with you on this one firehand101, I once got banned for typing something similar.
I never watched that stream again. Just ditch those guys. If they keep up those strict policies, they'll turn into something I/You do not wish to be a part of.

But it is so fun! i guess i will try to keep my mouth shut


On March 10 2012 16:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
look on the bright side. you can ban all of us from your blogs. try it. its fun!

aha yeah i did it to they guy who said 'fuck you' at me for spoiling a game. It is my blog and i dont give a %^&! aha feels so good

THE POWER IS MINE! MWAHAHAHA

it feels pretty cool actually haha. It is like i own this little niche of TL, and it is mine and mine alone!
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 11 2012 02:30 GMT
#31
People rarely ever even get banned from #nanashin anyways.

(unless you go to CMU but that is another story)

If you get kicked then oh well, it's no big deal. Rejoin or do something else. I don't see why people make such a big deal about it instead of relaxing it.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
March 11 2012 02:33 GMT
#32
On March 11 2012 11:30 Harem wrote:
People rarely ever even get banned from #nanashin anyways.

(unless you go to CMU but that is another story)


If you get kicked then oh well, it's no big deal. Rejoin or do something else. I don't see why people make such a big deal about it instead of relaxing it.

hahaha

but seriously, if you haven't figured out that most stream channels are just the streamer and his friends modded, and they just kick people either because a) the person being kicked is a douche, or b) because they're bored and feel like it, and if you haven't figured out that the only way you will get banned from a stream channel is through repeated offense, then perhaps you should stay away from stream channels

getting kicked is srs bsns
:)
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 02:46:39
March 11 2012 02:46 GMT
#33
Simple rule of thumb: Don't join any stream chats or IRC channels if you are

A. Faint of heart
B. Looking to troll
C. Think you are better than others when there's a high chance you aren't
D. Get butthurt over kicks, not even a ban
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 05:26:50
March 11 2012 05:23 GMT
#34
On March 11 2012 11:30 Harem wrote:
People rarely ever even get banned from #nanashin anyways.

(unless you go to CMU but that is another story)

If you get kicked then oh well, it's no big deal. Rejoin or do something else. I don't see why people make such a big deal about it instead of relaxing it.

I salute myself.

Could give a less fuck though, if they hate me that much to ban the whole channel (more like few particular people). Of course, unless they actually want (and have the guts) to beat me up real life (yeah right).
ppp
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 05:43:24
March 11 2012 05:33 GMT
#35
I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.

*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
March 11 2012 05:45 GMT
#36
On March 11 2012 14:33 Ig wrote:
I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.

*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked.

use your skype more please, I'm feeling left out in LoL atm.
ppp
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
March 11 2012 05:46 GMT
#37
On March 11 2012 14:45 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 14:33 Ig wrote:
I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.

*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked.

use your skype more please, I'm feeling left out in LoL atm.

sry I am drunk party rock
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
March 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#38
On March 11 2012 14:46 Ig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 14:45 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 11 2012 14:33 Ig wrote:
I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.

*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked.

use your skype more please, I'm feeling left out in LoL atm.

sry I am drunk party rock

all day every day
ppp
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10359 Posts
March 11 2012 07:59 GMT
#39
Learn to appreciate things silently, it may guide you to a path that is less self-centered and indignant at minor offenses such as this. Could also help you make fewer missteps in the future as well.
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fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
March 11 2012 16:24 GMT
#40
their house
their rules
why is this so hard to put in perspective
and apply to a chat channel
Liquipedia@jkursk
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
March 11 2012 17:53 GMT
#41
On March 10 2012 21:43 Skeggaba wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck you
for spoiling todays games.
Please try to be a bit considerate, god damnit now im more sad than anything. PUT IN SPOILER to avoid this happening to others!!


ye wtf. you should be banned from blogs too.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 11 2012 18:36 GMT
#42
You know I don't get why people think chat is a god given right that no one can take from them.

Also, don't be a dick. I have been banned from precisely 0 chats in the about 2 1/2 years I have been using live streaming services. Why? Because I'm not a dick.
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
March 11 2012 18:52 GMT
#43
Yeah honestly like others have said, you lose your entitlement to freedom of speech in a private chat. It's too trivial to actually bring an issue like this to court and whatnot as you can plainly see.

I bitched about getting kicked from chat because I guess I called some an idiot lol, but I was drunk in your case you don't seem to be so you need to understand that it quite simply isn't worth the effort to get angry over it.

Even if you may view that private chat channel's roster of mods as tyrannical, then it's just that and it's private for that reason. So in the end it will never be able to host some amazing professional event with mods who would kick a customer who paid his $10 - $15 pass for a minor offense, or more likely no offense. Maybe that will make you feel better.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 11 2012 20:05 GMT
#44
why do you even use the chats. full of trolls and not even worth having a conversation in
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ig
Profile Joined January 2011
United States417 Posts
March 11 2012 21:27 GMT
#45
On March 12 2012 05:05 Kenpachi wrote:
why do you even use the chats. full of trolls and not even worth having a conversation in

We have plenty of excellent conversations on food, I don't know what you're talking about.
E-warrior of the China brigade, 50 cent party member.
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