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hey everyone
i am just venting my anger on being banned from chat channels. I think it is the worst thing in the world when you cant express yourself, or even defend yourself because you cant speak anymore
I remember the first time i was banned in a chat, and that was for saying JP was a bad caster (this was on SOTG obviously)
I really think people should be allowed to say things like this, as it is their own personal opinion and i did not use any offensive language, so i can see the reason
but just now i have been banned from the KT vs ACE match chat channel. And for what? This person said he felt bad for flash losing, and i kept on stating that 'its not a big drama' and things like 'why do you feel sorry for him? because he only has an 88% winrate?'
Flash is by far and away my favorite player from SC1 or 2 (he was in the power rank once...) and i was just trying to explain even though he has lost 2 matches in a row, he is still the best player in the league, and if he retired today he would still be remembered as one of the greats.
And then i get this #$%^&* response :
firehand101 was kicked from #nanashin by NaN[AceLine] [Hey man, don't bury the lead. How does it feel to support manslaughter and covering it up with moneys?]
WHAT THE %^&*
i have read this over and over and it doesnt even make sense! wtf does this have to do with manslaughter? and covering up with moneys? you dont add an s at the end of moneys wtf?!
I was so frustrated and wanted to just say "why did you ban me?" but i cant do it because i cant type anymore!
Basically, having freedom of speech taken away sucks, it is literally one of the worst feelings i have experienced, and in my case it sucks so hard that i was banned by a guy who cant even use correct english.
far out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,imma just watch the rest without the chat comments i guess..... love TvT's,
  
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You do not have freedom of speech on private chat channels. Those chat channels belong to whoever is in charge of them, and they have every right to ban you for acting in a way they don't like. Chatting and interacting is a privilege, not a right.
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On March 10 2012 15:55 dabom88 wrote:
You do not have freedom of speech on private chat channels. Those chat channels belong to whoever is in charge of them, and they have every right to ban you for acting in a way they don't like. Chatting and interacting is a privilege, not a right.
Basically this dude, you dont have the right to use a chat channel its a privilege.
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dont be a dick; you wont be banned.
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Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything
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@daboom Yup, well said. Couldn't have said it better myself. No freedom of speech in private chat channels.
Sorry OP, maybe a reality check for you. You are being kind of absurd!
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and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something
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For fucks sake man, who cares, nanashins channel sucks anyways.
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On March 10 2012 15:58 firehand101 wrote:
Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything
On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something
Getting to defend yourself from a ban isn't a right either. Daphreak said, don't act like a dick, don't do anything that might be interpreted as being controversial or antagonistic, and you wont get banned.
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look on the bright side. you can ban all of us from your blogs. try it. its fun!
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Hong Kong9154 Posts
Are you really complaining about getting banned off of a stream chat channel?
On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something
Why? Because you'll feel bad?
It's their channel, they are the op. There is no overarching regulatory body governing how ops manage their bans. Real life and, by extension, the internet, often times doesn't revolve around your personal needs, wants, and values. If you don't like it, you can leave; or get yourself banned.
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it's not a right. Take the consequences of your actions. If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all type of deal.
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you know all you had to do was refresh the stream right aha
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On March 10 2012 16:03 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 15:58 firehand101 wrote:
Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something Getting to defend yourself from a ban isn't a right either. Daphreak said, don't act like a dick, don't do anything that might be interpreted as being controversial or antagonistic, and you wont get banned.
IE say nothing interesting and be boring
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On March 10 2012 16:17 Plutonik wrote:
you know all you had to do was refresh the stream right aha
lol
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On the ban list now there's only 20 people and all 20 of them deserve it (people who just continue to spam hate messages about bw, streamer, other people). With that said, you're not even banned, just kicked. You're welcome to chat as long as you're not persistant in being a dick to others (I don't know if you were).
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Uh, you didn't even get banned, you got kicked. You can just type "/j #nanashin" and rejoin the room at any time.
lol, you're literally getting worked up over nothing
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On March 10 2012 17:08 fold wrote:
On the ban list now there's only 20 people and all 20 of them deserve it (people who just continue to spam hate messages about bw, streamer, other people). With that said, you're not even banned, just kicked. You're welcome to chat as long as you're not persistant in being a dick to others (I don't know if you were).
woop i never realised. I wasnt even being a dick! i was sticking up for my favourite player of all time!
But i will be more cautious in the future
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im not too sure... Telling JP is a bad caster in his OWN show. You'll get the same treatment in all streams, you just weren't being smart about where you were saying your things...
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On March 10 2012 17:37 RogerX wrote:
im not too sure... Telling JP is a bad caster in his OWN show. You'll get the same treatment in all streams, you just weren't being smart about where you were saying your things...
Basically this.
There is a time and a place for almost everything. Criticizing the host of the chat channel you´re in while he is busy doing something(doing his show) is maybe not the wisest thing to do.
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On March 10 2012 16:20 firehand101 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 16:03 dabom88 wrote:On March 10 2012 15:58 firehand101 wrote:
Yeah im not disputing that (actually it does come across like that but cbf changing it)
but it just sucks when you are just saying stuff and then get banned and cant defend your actions or anything On March 10 2012 16:00 firehand101 wrote:
and maybe i should add, that banning should be taken with a bit more seriousness. If they are obviously trolling it is okay, but other than that give them a warning or something Getting to defend yourself from a ban isn't a right either. Daphreak said, don't act like a dick, don't do anything that might be interpreted as being controversial or antagonistic, and you wont get banned. IE say nothing interesting and be boring
You don't have to say everything that comes into your head and those thoughts rolling around inside your head can still make you an interesting person.
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oh by the way, we hate sones and NaN really really loves YG and all their groups.
Especially 2NE1
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On March 10 2012 15:52 firehand101 wrote:
firehand101 was kicked from #nanashin by NaN[AceLine] [Hey man, don't bury the lead. How does it feel to support manslaughter and covering it up with moneys?]
Dude... you got kicked, not banned.
Just re-join the channel (and as general advice, take heed of whatever was given as the reason of your kick).
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Your kick was a reference to one of Big Bang's member hitting a man with his car and having no repercussions.
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I'm totally with you on this one firehand101, I once got banned for typing something similar.
I never watched that stream again. Just ditch those guys. If they keep up those strict policies, they'll turn into something I/You do not wish to be a part of.
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+ Show Spoiler + for spoiling todays games.
Please try to be a bit considerate, god damnit now im more sad than anything. PUT IN SPOILER to avoid this happening to others!!
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On March 10 2012 15:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
dont be a dick; you wont be banned.
So simple, yet so hard to understand for many
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On March 10 2012 21:33 BenBuford wrote:
I'm totally with you on this one firehand101, I once got banned for typing something similar.
I never watched that stream again. Just ditch those guys. If they keep up those strict policies, they'll turn into something I/You do not wish to be a part of.
But it is so fun! i guess i will try to keep my mouth shut
On March 10 2012 16:09 dAPhREAk wrote:
look on the bright side. you can ban all of us from your blogs. try it. its fun!
aha yeah i did it to they guy who said 'fuck you' at me for spoiling a game. It is my blog and i dont give a %^&! aha feels so good 
THE POWER IS MINE! MWAHAHAHA
it feels pretty cool actually haha. It is like i own this little niche of TL, and it is mine and mine alone!
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United States11390 Posts
People rarely ever even get banned from #nanashin anyways.
(unless you go to CMU but that is another story)
If you get kicked then oh well, it's no big deal. Rejoin or do something else. I don't see why people make such a big deal about it instead of relaxing it.
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On March 11 2012 11:30 Harem wrote:
People rarely ever even get banned from #nanashin anyways.
(unless you go to CMU but that is another story)
If you get kicked then oh well, it's no big deal. Rejoin or do something else. I don't see why people make such a big deal about it instead of relaxing it.
hahaha
but seriously, if you haven't figured out that most stream channels are just the streamer and his friends modded, and they just kick people either because a) the person being kicked is a douche, or b) because they're bored and feel like it, and if you haven't figured out that the only way you will get banned from a stream channel is through repeated offense, then perhaps you should stay away from stream channels
getting kicked is srs bsns
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Simple rule of thumb: Don't join any stream chats or IRC channels if you are
A. Faint of heart
B. Looking to troll
C. Think you are better than others when there's a high chance you aren't
D. Get butthurt over kicks, not even a ban
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On March 11 2012 11:30 Harem wrote:
People rarely ever even get banned from #nanashin anyways.
(unless you go to CMU but that is another story)
If you get kicked then oh well, it's no big deal. Rejoin or do something else. I don't see why people make such a big deal about it instead of relaxing it.
I salute myself.
Could give a less fuck though, if they hate me that much to ban the whole channel (more like few particular people). Of course, unless they actually want (and have the guts) to beat me up real life (yeah right).
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I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.
*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked.
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On March 11 2012 14:33 Ig wrote:
I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.
*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked.
use your skype more please, I'm feeling left out in LoL atm.
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On March 11 2012 14:45 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2012 14:33 Ig wrote:
I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.
*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked. use your skype more please, I'm feeling left out in LoL atm.
sry I am drunk party rock
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On March 11 2012 14:46 Ig wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2012 14:45 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 11 2012 14:33 Ig wrote:
I would just like to say, the only people I ban are other mods in the channel. My power hunger is unrivaled in #nanashin.
*edit*
If it makes you feel any better I linked Friday saying it was IU and got kicked. use your skype more please, I'm feeling left out in LoL atm. sry I am drunk party rock
all day every day
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Learn to appreciate things silently, it may guide you to a path that is less self-centered and indignant at minor offenses such as this. Could also help you make fewer missteps in the future as well.
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Estonia4644 Posts
their house
their rules
why is this so hard to put in perspective
and apply to a chat channel
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On March 10 2012 21:43 Skeggaba wrote:+ Show Spoiler + for spoiling todays games. Please try to be a bit considerate, god damnit now im more sad than anything. PUT IN SPOILER to avoid this happening to others!!
ye wtf. you should be banned from blogs too.
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You know I don't get why people think chat is a god given right that no one can take from them.
Also, don't be a dick. I have been banned from precisely 0 chats in the about 2 1/2 years I have been using live streaming services. Why? Because I'm not a dick.
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Yeah honestly like others have said, you lose your entitlement to freedom of speech in a private chat. It's too trivial to actually bring an issue like this to court and whatnot as you can plainly see.
I bitched about getting kicked from chat because I guess I called some an idiot lol, but I was drunk in your case you don't seem to be so you need to understand that it quite simply isn't worth the effort to get angry over it.
Even if you may view that private chat channel's roster of mods as tyrannical, then it's just that and it's private for that reason. So in the end it will never be able to host some amazing professional event with mods who would kick a customer who paid his $10 - $15 pass for a minor offense, or more likely no offense. Maybe that will make you feel better.
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why do you even use the chats. full of trolls and not even worth having a conversation in
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On March 12 2012 05:05 Kenpachi wrote:
why do you even use the chats. full of trolls and not even worth having a conversation in
We have plenty of excellent conversations on food, I don't know what you're talking about.
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